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Thread: Vaccine remorse is real and it’s spectacular.

post 1650849233 11-15-2021, 09:18 AM
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Didn't read thread, but if you haven't yet accepted we will have to use force to stop the world from becoming a global USSR (complete with purges), your cognitive dissonance is showing.

Fascinating to watch unfold srs
post 1650849613 11-15-2021, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I absolutely agree.

If one's goal is acquired immunity, there are two paths: infection or vaccination. One should consider all factors towards both paths.
Its not this post in particular, but your whole style of posting. You open with an initial post that is false and clearly shows your inner thoughts, then once you get quoted and proven wrong by enough posters you move the goal post by "agreeing" with everyone who is proving you wrong. You move the goal post so much in just 2 pages of thread its not only on another field, its being used in a different sport. The amount of mental gymnastics and dishonesty you must battle with every time your fingers get to typing...yikes. What an unfortunate brain condition you have, good luck in life, it will be difficult.
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post 1650849783 11-15-2021, 09:26 AM
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post 1650849813 11-15-2021, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted By naich⏩
Its not this post in particular, but your whole style of posting. You open with an initial post that is false and clearly shows your inner thoughts, then once you get quoted and proven wrong by enough posters you move the goal post by "agreeing" with everyone who is proving you wrong. You move the goal post so much in just 2 pages of thread its not only on another field, its being used in a different sport. The amount of mental gymnastics and dishonesty you must battle with every time your fingers get to typing...yikes. What an unfortunate brain condition you have, good luck in life, it will be difficult.
the cnt is legit autistic
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Lmfao you dumbass
You’re dense.

https://news.yahoo.com/dr-fauci-just...201846228.html
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post 1650850313 11-15-2021, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By naich⏩
Its not this post in particular, but your whole style of posting. You open with an initial post that is false and clearly shows your inner thoughts, then once you get quoted and proven wrong by enough posters you move the goal post by "agreeing" with everyone who is proving you wrong. You move the goal post so much in just 2 pages of thread its not only on another field, its being used in a different sport. The amount of mental gymnastics and dishonesty you must battle with every time your fingers get to typing...yikes. What an unfortunate brain condition you have, good luck in life, it will be difficult.
Any examples?

This was my first post ITT
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
How does that audio clip relate to vaccine remorse?
I asked how the clip related to the thread title

Was OP suggesting Fauci regrets being vaccinated? That doesn't come across in the interview.
post 1650850333 11-15-2021, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted By Mercworx⏩
But in this world he is the highest paid government official. We are truly lost.
How quickly we forget Edward Garay.
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
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Lmfao you dumbass
Negged.
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Can't even fathom being a vaxcell
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Take it until your immune system is so reliant on boosters, that it collapses. Congratulations, you get to die from the commie lab AIDs!
Children having strokes and heart attacks is totally normal too, by the way. You just never heard of it!
And cannabis causes heart attacks. And so does long-form COVID.
post 1650854523 11-15-2021, 10:45 AM
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I got negged by a VaxCel proving once again. Vaccine remorse is real and it’s spectacular. Hahahahaha
post 1650854573 11-15-2021, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
Take it until your immune system is so reliant on boosters, that it collapses. Congratulations, you get to die from the commie lab AIDs!
Children having strokes and heart attacks is totally normal too, by the way. You just never heard of it!
And cannabis causes heart attacks. And so does long-form COVID.
How or why would your immune system become reliant on boosters and collapse?

Any sources you can share that support this position?
post 1650854593 11-15-2021, 10:47 AM
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I have reader's remorse from this post OP.


But just one more, it's okay.
post 1650854653 11-15-2021, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By BrunotheBoxer⏩
I got negged by a VaxCel proving once again. Vaccine remorse is real and it’s spectacular. Hahahahaha
Was it a death threat like you sent to me?
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Originally Posted By gymratbruh⏩
I have reader's remorse from this post OP.


But just one more, it's okay.
How many boosters you up to now?
post 1650854773 11-15-2021, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By BrunotheBoxer⏩
How many boosters you up to now?
Bout 3 1/2
post 1650855073 11-15-2021, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Was it a death threat like you sent to me?
Screen shot of death threat or gtfo. Srs
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Originally Posted By Mercworx⏩
But in this world he is the highest paid government official. We are truly lost.
His measly 400k salary would be laughed at here on the misc.
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Originally Posted By BrunotheBoxer⏩
Screen shot of death threat or gtfo. Srs



Can I stay?
post 1650856023 11-15-2021, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩



Can I stay?
You said that I sent that. You lied.
I negged you now with I hope you live forever.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩



Can I stay?
That's not very nice
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Originally Posted By BrunotheBoxer⏩
You said that I sent that. You lied.
I negged you now with I hope you live forever.
My bad, it's hard keeping people straight when everyone uses the same talking points. We're all gonna make it
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
How or why would your immune system become reliant on boosters and collapse?

Any sources you can share that support this position?
He is using hyperbole, but very knowledgeable and valid sources have suggested that it’s quite possible the vaccines could lead to a decrease in the body’s ability to fight future variants.


https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/faq

If antigen-specific antibodies (Abs) suppress natural Abs, shouldn't vaccines other than Covid-19 vaccines suppress those as well?


No, in order for a vaccine to suppress the interaction of natural Abs with SARS-CoV-2 (including all its variants), it should induce Abs that bind to SARS-CoV-2. It is true that any vaccine that elicits Abs that are capable of binding to SARS-CoV-2 could serve a role of innate immune suppressor. Hence, even Abs that are specifically directed to a particular coronavirus causing the common cold could lead to suppression of CoV-nonspecific natural Abs as they may also be able to bind (but not neutralize!) other coronaviruses such as SARS-CoV-2 and all its variants. However, vaccinal Abs induced by vaccines that are not directed at a particular coronavirus will not compete with CoV-nonspecific natural Abs for binding to SARS-CoV-2.
Geert Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He held adjunct faculty appointments at universities in Belgium and Germany. After his career in Academia, Geert joined several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine R&D as well as in late vaccine development. Geert then moved on to join the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team in Seattle (USA) as Senior Program Officer; he then worked with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) in Geneva as Senior Ebola Program Manager. At GAVI he tracked efforts to develop an Ebola vaccine. He also represented GAVI in fora with other partners, including WHO, to review progress on the fight against Ebola and to build plans for global pandemic preparedness. Back in 2015, Geert scrutinized and questioned the safety of the Ebola vaccine that was used in ring vaccination trials conducted by WHO in Guinea. His critical scientific analysis and report on the data published by WHO in the Lancet in 2015 was sent to all international health and regulatory authorities involved in the Ebola vaccination program. After working for GAVI, Geert joined the German Center for Infection Research in Cologne as Head of the Vaccine Development Office. He is at present primarily serving as a Biotech/ Vaccine consultant while also conducting his own research on Natural Killer cell-based vaccines.
I’ve seen videos where he covers that aspect much better and basically breaks it down like this. The injection introduces the body to a very specific stimulus(spike protein). So now the body can recognize that very specific aspect of the virus. If the body sees it again it will attack it. However, it does not look for other indicators since it only received one very specific indicator to look for. When the virus mutates the spike protein will be different. Because of this the body will either not respond, or possibly(and even more worrisome) it will respond but fail to eradicate the viral cell. This happens because vaccine acquired antibodies are ramped up to fight the threat. They will bind to the virus but won’t be able to stop it. Because of this, the bodies natural response is unable to kick in because the other cells are already bound to the viral cell, preventing a natural response from eradicating the threat.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
My bad, it's hard keeping people straight when everyone uses the same talking points. We're all gonna make it
Sorry to neg you but I had no choice bro.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Any examples?

This was my first post ITT



I asked how the clip related to the thread title

Was OP suggesting Fauci regrets being vaccinated? That doesn't come across in the interview.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Was it a death threat like you sent to me?
Originally Posted By BrunotheBoxer⏩
Screen shot of death threat or gtfo. Srs
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩



Can I stay?
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
My bad, it's hard keeping people straight when everyone uses the same talking points. We're all gonna make it
I thought about replying with some examples, but lucky for me all I had to do was wait 30 minutes and you did it for me.

Once you are proven wrong you do a 180 and immediately become Mr. nice guy who agrees with everyone and says "were all gunna make it" to reunite everyone like zyzz would've. You are a clowns clown in a clown world. Take your L's and go home.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
He is using hyperbole, but very knowledgeable and valid sources have suggested that it’s quite possible the vaccines could lead to a decrease in the bodies ability to fight over future variants.


https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/faq

If antigen-specific antibodies (Abs) suppress natural Abs, shouldn't vaccines other than Covid-19 vaccines suppress those as well?


No, in order for a vaccine to suppress the interaction of natural Abs with SARS-CoV-2 (including all its variants), it should induce Abs that bind to SARS-CoV-2. It is true that any vaccine that elicits Abs that are capable of binding to SARS-CoV-2 could serve a role of innate immune suppressor. Hence, even Abs that are specifically directed to a particular coronavirus causing the common cold could lead to suppression of CoV-nonspecific natural Abs as they may also be able to bind (but not neutralize!) other coronaviruses such as SARS-CoV-2 and all its variants. However, vaccinal Abs induced by vaccines that are not directed at a particular coronavirus will not compete with CoV-nonspecific natural Abs for binding to SARS-CoV-2.






I’ve seen videos where he covers that aspect much better and basically breaks it down like this. The injection introduces the body to a very specific stimulus(spike protein). So now the body can recognize that very specific aspect of the virus. If the body sees it again it will attack it. However, it does not look for other indicators since it only received one very specific indicator to look for. When the virus mutates the spike protein will be different. Because of this the body will either not respond, or possibly(and even more worrisome it will respond but fail to eradicate the viral cell). This happens because vaccine acquired antibodies are ramped up to fight the threat. They will bind to the virus but won’t be able to stop it. Because of this, the bodies natural response is unable to kick in because the other cells are already bound to the viral cell, preventing a natural response from eradicating the threat.
Thanks for discussing!

I've seen others suggesting covid vaccines end up giving the recipient acquired immunodeficiency, so I wondered if that was the line of argument being used here.

I Vanden Bossche saying that if a vaccinated person is infected, they won't develop antibodies?

That runs counter to what we're seeing in people vaccinated with an alpha-based vaccine who subsequently get infected with delta. My understanding is that the current vaccines target multiple epitopes of the spike protein. Are all of those changing enough from variant to variant to leave someone completely unprotected and unable to mount an immune response?

While you develop antibodies and B and T and NK memory cells to a greater number of antigens in response to infection, that also comes with significant risk. Some of antigens look similar to what's already in your system, which can lead to serious complications (inflammation, organ damage, thrombosis).

Humans don't maintain neutralizing levels of antibodies without repeated exposures. But, the memory cells can last for years or even decades. I don't see how it matters whether you're exposed to antigens from vaccines or viruses, it seems that what matters is the development of memory cells to prevent serious or severe illness.

Reading up on Geert Vanden Bossche suggests he's claims covid vaccines will end humanity.

Here is a video that explain why Vanden Bossche is likely incorrect:

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Originally Posted By BrunotheBoxer⏩
Sorry to neg you but I had no choice bro.
No worries. I screwed up and deserve the negs for that one.

If I wanted greenz, I'd follow the obvious formula.
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The same people creating the vaccine are the same ones who have every incentive to keep the virus alive and the government money flowing in.

Have the government tell Pfizer "were building our own vaccine manufacturing plant and using your formula" I guarantee Pfizer will suddenly claim the vaccine isn't as effective...BUT THEIR NEW THERAPEUTIC DRUG IS..or something similar.
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Originally Posted By naich⏩
I thought about replying with some examples, but lucky for me all I had to do was wait 30 minutes and you did it for me.

Once you are proven wrong you do a 180 and immediately become Mr. nice guy who agrees with everyone and says "were all gunna make it" to reunite everyone like zyzz would've. You are a clowns clown in a clown world. Take your L's and go home.
It does seem that presenting alterative views in an echo chamber isn't a great way to make friends in that echo chamber.
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