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post 1653864073 01-06-2022, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
You guys need to realize that just because somebody says something, doesnt make it true. Just like how so many of you dont believe the 1000000 other medical professionals who disagree with this one
Weight the anecdotes and expert opinions however you like. An RN with 17 years experience testifying to a state government committee seems like a little higher bar than "random unconfirmed online poster". Maybe you don't believe her, but she was willing to be identified and enter her testimony into official record.
Originally Posted By HayZues
Jfc, did you even read the article?

His claim is debunked by the cdc. Oh don't believe the cdc? Fine.. so they called him back and gave him a chance to back up his numbers, HE COULD NOT.

So if everyone who dies of a heart attack that has been vaxxed, will be because of the vax?
I don't understand this post.

The insurance executive said that "non-covid deaths have increased" and the CDC backed that up.
“What the data is showing to us is that the deaths that are being reported as COVID deaths greatly understate the actual death losses among working-age people from the pandemic. It may not all be COVID on their death certificate, but deaths are up just huge, huge numbers.”
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non-covid deaths
The CDC weekly death counts, which reflect the information on death certificates and so have a lag of up to eight weeks or longer, show that for the week ending Nov. 6, there were far fewer deaths from COVID-19 in Indiana compared to a year ago – 195 verses 336 – but more deaths from other causes – 1,350 versus 1,319.
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CDC reported more deaths from other causes than deaths from covid.
The number of hospitalizations in the state is now higher than before the COVID-19 vaccine was introduced a year ago, and in fact is higher than it’s been in the past five years, Dr. Lindsay Weaver, Indiana’s chief medical officer, said at a news conference with Gov. Eric Holcomb on Wednesday.
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Hospitalization is higher.
But the majority of ICU beds are not taken up by COVID-19 patients – just 37% are, while 54% of the ICU beds are being occupied by people with other illnesses or conditions.

The state's online dashboard shows that the moving average of daily deaths from COVID-19 is less than half of what it was a year ago. At the pandemic's peak a year ago, 125 people died on one day – on Dec. 29, 2020. In the last three months, the highest number of deaths in one day was 58, on Dec. 13.
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But it isn't because of covid.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
But you do agree that it’s obvious the injection causes heart problems in lots of people, right?
No I do not agree it is OBVIOUS.

Definitely possible. Would need to define "lots."

This is how science works. Not random, evidence-less screenshots, but long term controlled studies.
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post 1653864193 01-06-2022, 08:31 PM
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Was gonna goof around but remembered this threads about a 13 year old that died :/

Not really the thread to debate getting the jab or not. Feels weird to talk it over a kid's death.

RIP to the kid
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Originally Posted By katya422
Weight the anecdotes and expert opinions however you like. And RN with 17 years experience testifying to a state government committee seems like a little higher bar than "random unconfirmed online poster". Maybe you don't believe her, but she was willing to be identified and enter her testimony into official record.
What about 10000000 medical professionals all over the world who disagree with her?

its like you guys dont realize how much of a minority opinion this is. Yes, there are people like her speaking out but why do you guys decide to value those relative handful of people over the other 98% disagreeing with her

you have made up your mind on what you want to believe, and just finding evidence to support it.
post 1653864283 01-06-2022, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422
Weight the anecdotes and expert opinions however you like. An RN with 17 years experience testifying to a state government committee seems like a little higher bar than "random unconfirmed online poster". Maybe you don't believe her, but she was willing to be identified and enter her testimony into official record.



I don't understand this post.

The insurance executive said that "non-covid deaths have increased" and the CDC backed that up.



^^^
non-covid deaths



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CDC reported more deaths from other causes than deaths from covid.



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Hospitalization is higher.



^^^
But it isn't because of covid.
Up to 1350 from 1319 is more like 2% than 40%. Normal variance .



Yall can jump to a conclusion all you want. It's hasty, sloppy, and low IQ.
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post 1653864413 01-06-2022, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
What about 10000000 medical professionals all over the world who disagree with her?

its like you guys dont realize how much of a minority opinion this is. Yes, there are people like her speaking out but why do you guys decide to value those relative handful of people over the other 98% disagreeing with her

you have made up your mind on what you want to believe, and just finding evidence to support it.
It's literally insane how quickly people will latch onto any source that confirms their bias, while ignoring thousands that counter.



Lol @ an RN carrying more weight than thousands of doctors.
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post 1653864573 01-06-2022, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
It's literally insane how quickly people will latch onto any source that confirms their bias, while ignoring thousands that counter.



Lol @ an RN carrying more weight than thousands of doctors.
Here’s a former pfizer vp and chief scientist

https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=60...fe3d64b0f504a7

Time to wake up bro
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post 1653864753 01-06-2022, 08:46 PM
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Damn. I can't imagine how helpless and terrified I'd be watching my child die before my eyes.

Rip, Jack. Too early.
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Originally Posted By Pterodactyl314
Here’s a former pfizer vp and chief scientist

https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=60...fe3d64b0f504a7

Time to wake up bro
The media smears the doctors and scientists, such as this one (along with Dr. Malone), who speak out.
post 1653865013 01-06-2022, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Pterodactyl314
Here’s a former pfizer vp and chief scientist

https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=60...fe3d64b0f504a7

Time to wake up bro
https://www.reuters.com/investigates...cines-skeptic/


Again, why does one guys widely debunked opinion outweigh thousands of other experts?

It couldn't be your confirmation bias could it?
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post 1653865273 01-06-2022, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
What about 10000000 medical professionals all over the world who disagree with her?

its like you guys dont realize how much of a minority opinion this is. Yes, there are people like her speaking out but why do you guys decide to value those relative handful of people over the other 98% disagreeing with her

you have made up your mind on what you want to believe, and just finding evidence to support it.
So no consideration of how the consequences of parroting the official narrative vs. speaking against it might skew those numbers?
Originally Posted By HayZues
Up to 1350 from 1319 is more like 2% than 40%. Normal variance .



Yall can jump to a conclusion all you want. It's hasty, sloppy, and low IQ.
I believe that if for one WEEK, not for the entire year. Also the agency insures people nationwide.
OneAmerica is a $100 billion insurance company that has had its headquarters in Indianapolis since 1877. The company has approximately 2,400 employees and sells life insurance, including group life insurance to employers nationwide.

Davison said the increase in deaths represents “huge, huge numbers,” and that’s it’s not elderly people who are dying, but “primarily working-age people 18 to 64” who are the employees of companies that have group life insurance plans through OneAmerica.
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post 1653865293 01-06-2022, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
https://www.reuters.com/investigates...cines-skeptic/


Again, why does one guys widely debunked opinion outweigh thousands of other experts?

It couldn't be your confirmation bias could it?
Speaking of bias

CONFLICT: Reuters Chairman is Pfizer Investor and Board Member.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2021/12...-board-member/
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post 1653865323 01-06-2022, 09:03 PM
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6 months after the vaccine?

I knew a girl whose heart randomly failed while she was watching a movie. She was around 19 and it was over 10 years ago.

People, including young people, do get heart failure caused by (later diagnosed) genetic defects.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
https://www.reuters.com/investigates...cines-skeptic/


Again, why does one guys widely debunked opinion outweigh thousands of other experts?

It couldn't be your confirmation bias could it?
James C. Smith, chairman of the Thomson Reuters Foundation, sits on the board of directors for Pfizer.
You might want to be a little extra skeptical of articles and opinion pieces that support the mrna injections which originate with Reuters.
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post 1653865463 01-06-2022, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422
You might want to be a little extra skeptical of articles and opinion pieces that support the mrna injections which originate with Reuters.
there's no point in arguing with a literal POS.
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Originally Posted By katya422
So no consideration of how the consequences of parroting the official narrative vs. speaking against it might skew those numbers?
there are plenty ways to speak out anonymously or in large enough numbers that it wouldnt be a problem to do so. A lot more would be doing if there was more legitmacy to the claims.

there's also the issue of the vast majority of medical professionals taking the vaccine themselves along with their families, children etc. You cant possibly tell me they're taking a vaccines they believe dangerous and giving it to their own families and children. Why the fuk would they do that
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Originally Posted By katya422
You might want to be a little extra skeptical of articles and opinion pieces that support the mrna injections which originate with Reuters.
What about the facts and details in the article do you not believe and why?
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He saved the lives of grandpa and grandma.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
So every heart attack now is because of the vax?

Jfc.


2000 people under 25 die per year of sudden cardiac arrest in US
how many under 15 tho?
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another child sacrificed
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I’m so glad I’m not a part of this global experiment lol. Gotta love to see people angrily defending something that somebody told them to get.


Also, for a virus that won’t even get close to killing them, by the way. Lol
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He didnt die.

Cardiac arrest != dead


And fukc the vaccine
Cherish your life. Live to tell your story
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
no we dont. What has been reported is very rare mycocarditis, more rare than the risk of it from covid itself.

you are seeing what you have already made up your mind to see
Not true for males under 40
Check out Vinay Prasad’s “mycocaditis in the U.K.” video
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
So in your defense, how do you prove it?

If someone becomes severely ill a few days after eating some leftover chicken, no chance it was the chicken because people fall several ill at random all the time, right?
That chicken ain’t turning millionaires into billionaires brah
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Kids drop dead from sudden cardiac arrests.

"The estimated incidence of pediatric SCD ranges from 0.6 to 6.2 per 100,000 children in the United States."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3017912/

of course, if many kids are getting the vax, some vaxxed kids will suffer from SCD.

Just like many adults have had heart attacks after the vax. These disease pathologies still occur and will happen.

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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
What about the facts and details in the article do you not believe and why?
Do you know which company has been fined more than any other in history, and why they were? Do you know what regulatory capture is?
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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he should've listened to the science



the real science, not the propaganda on main stream news
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Originally Posted By Workout4ever
he should've listened to the science



the real science, not the propaganda on main stream news
You can't say this without the people that "believe in the science" getting unhinged, screaming and being insulting.
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Atleast he saved grandma
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
But you do agree that it’s obvious the injection causes heart problems in lots of people, right?
I cannot remember a time in my life where I’ve heard of a young person dying from heart failure .
Apparently I wasn’t paying attention , as they’ve been dropping dead like fruit flies all this time
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