What does your post have to do with the OP in this thread?

So nothing about the topic of the thread?

So just saw that the charts have multiplied. I know you will be so pleased.

UK data:



North Dakota:



The Netherlands:



Norway:



Scotland:



Switzerland:



I like twitter.

Possibly unrelated. Possibly related.

Vaccines for immunological control of fertility

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5904606/

Sell it to me, why should I get the jab.

"Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it."

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

Whew! I thought maybe you hadn't seen this thread

Haven't read thread, but wouldn't the lockdowns opening up account for this

It could be vaccine related. It could also be related to people not wanting kids when times look rough.

We need to see comparisons with countries that did not have high rates of vaccines and also did not have lockdowns. Or just a study showing the percentage of vaxxed vs unvaxxed mothers. If the rate of vaxxed mothers is less than the rate of unvaxxed mothers relative to population that might be a good study.

How do they plan on getting rid of all the bbcs in Africa that refused to take the vaccine?

Still have not seen "Children of Men"...good flick?

Tbf, seeing how retarded everyone behaved for the last two years, would YOU want to present a child to this clown show?

if this is true (most likely is), then my whole family goofed. Sad af

Covid is Act 1 brah, a live exercise that shows how compliant the population is.

Next up is the collapse of the global financial system leading to a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) - of course there will need to be a catalyst for it. People won't accept these things willingly, you need to create some chaos to disorient the masses and have them living in fear. Fear leads to compliance...watch the time leading up to the midterms very closely.

Once the CBDC is in place we won't have money, we will have vouchers. The Government will control every financial transaction and every aspect of our lives. Digital wallets will track where we are, and we will get money with an expiration date. We will have limits to how much meat we can consume, and how much carbon we are allowed to emit.

The global financial system is like an elephant balancing on a toothpick right now, it won't take much for it to descend into chaos. I truly believe we are at the crossroads here, if people don't wake up soon and revolt we will find ourselves living in a biomedical security state where we are monitored for "impure thoughts" - just like the Uighurs in China.

Nations will lose their sovereignty and we will be governed by unelected, unaccountable global elites from the WEF.

Hopefully I'm wrong but there have been too many coincidences since 2020, Event 201 was run in late 2019 and somehow "predicted" all this.

Chitsmearer complains about the constant insults and no one ever responding to his arguments seriously, throws in some chit about "chicken nuggets", then when people DO respond to his insufferable nonsense directly and concisely he is no where to be seen.

B a 5. A. D. E.

this seems to be the only graph that doesn't limit to Q1

the huge increase we notice in the second half of 2021 might be pretty relevant lol

The UK has a cost of living crisis at the moment, so I'm not surprised that people are choosing to delay having children. I don't think that is vaccine related but can't speak for the rest of the data.

https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/de..._source=direct

23% drop in Taiwan...26 sigma event.

"Covid vaccines are known to “disrupt the menstrual cycle” and lower sperm counts. It is possible that some women, for a period of several months, could not conceive and become pregnant due to these disruptions. Because all Taiwanese women were vaccinated at almost the same time, those disruptions created a precipitous drop in birth rate."

ever single mofo day, i look in the mirror and see a pureblood looking back at me, sheeeet so glad i never took that poison

Uh yeah, no. Two things:


1) Chicken Nugget Crew isn't a personal insult or attack. The Chicken Nugget scale is ascale. It's a rating system designed to measure the nuttiness, scientific illiteracy and absurd conspiratorial nature of claims. Claims are what are being attacked, not people. There's nothing wrong with throwing in a little humour while you deconstruct a dishonest and scientifically illiterate claim intending to promulgate vaccine discouragement.


Chit-smearer, by contrast, is utterly pointless. It's an insult and nothing more. There is no rationale other than to attack me personally, and furthermore, it's thrown and left without addressing the argument offered.

You can't rationalise the chit smearer insults. It's insulting for the sake of insulting, and you need to admit it.



2) I don't recall someone offering a scientifically literate and serious argument for the anti-vaxx position and my only reaction was to disappear. This sounds made up and we need to see evidence of it.

Actually, even if you weren't twisting my words without a shred of context and interpolating your own story on top of that, whether or not a proposition is factual isn't relevant to its status as an insult or not.


An insult is intended to degrade or demean or hurt. If I see a black dude walking down the street, and I yell out "Hey you f*cking darkie !" that's an insult, even if he is dark skinned. Similarly if I see a fat dude, and I yell out "hey you fat piece of chit!". It's because the intention is to degrade, or demean or hurt.


An insult exists to degrade and it doesn't matter about the facticity of the statement. Its especially despicable in debating because it means you're out of argument and your only fallback is to behave like a child.



And what is especially stupid is comparing scientific data and argument to some sort of 'Narrative'. Is there any solid argument the conspiracy crowd can offer other than acting like a goth kid who just wants to be a non-conformist?

Why should a 5 year old get the jab?

they shouldn't

fuk, nobody should except maybe the elderly and the weak

but now that everything is said and done you still get the no-vax crew spewing chit about everything that goes wrong today "must be the vax"

this is equally stupid to the pro-vax crew pushing their chit

everyone should just let it go and move on, srs

there is nothing to win by fishing for an "I told you so", it's just petty

Innnnnntredasting.

Funny how chyna didnt have any vaccine push....

Oh personally I'm bored with the insults.

I've posted peer reviewed studies to support my suppositions many times and you ghost the thread never to return in most cases.

They lied.

The pharma companies lied by omitting data that did not support their claims of "safe and effective". Even so the case for "safe and effective" was very weak.

The public facing politicians and health authorities lied. This is a fact. There is even video evidence of some of it ITT.

They lied. Many of them profited from their lies.

This is not a conspiracy.

Just like the gain of function research which was being done in Wuhan is not a conspiracy.

Scientists aren't some intellectually pure angels with no ulterior motives who cling strictly to noble truth. They have to get funding. Any "science" that didn't support the fat NIH Fauci directed funding was silenced and stamped out; those who shared it were smeared and canceled.Might characterize some people, but this isn't me.

The handling of this virus was quite bad for whatever reason and set many scary precedents re: individual rights, government power, public health authorities lying repeatedly, the use of psychological warfare against the general public, and more.

It's important to discover and understand any negative consequences in order for effective treatments to be developed and to prevent further use of a bad product.

It's important to prove that the "science" was at least manipulated for profit to arrive at a desired outcome and that the government bodies we expect to protect us from such malfeasance failed to do so.

If we don't want to do this same dance again, and again, and again...

And if you believe that the best way to prevent that is to legally and financially nail these greedy nasty bastards to the wall.

proven fraud of vaccine trials = loss of liability shield

Just because I don''t reply to every single post in a massive thread doesn't allow one to infer evil intention. Most of the conspiracy claims I've addressed before, and it''s easy to become unenthused when a pattern of modus operandi reveals itself: Grabbed from predatory journals, papers not read through at all, poor methodology and no understanding of how to do solid statistical analysis.


It gets repetitive especially when most posters usually gang up and insult, and the same tired falsified claims keep appearing. I believe I've addressed the major arguments and if I miss the odd post it's usually because the thread gets boring and anti-social and it's easy to lose track of your activity on the forum. It doesn't mean I'm ghosting anything.

As an example, you claim GOF research was performed at WIH, which is true but I've explained many times why putting this forth as a conspiracy is a bad argument.



an FYI in closing too, I've often bemoaned the sorry state of modern science: A neoliberal ideology which turned control of funding of research mostly over to corporations which turned science into a tradable commodity and not the dispassionate pursuit of knowledge for its own sake. Add in an extreme degree of hyperspecialization, publish or perish syndrome,science's unnecessary dogmatic adherence to mechanistic metaphysics etc...


You'd be hard pressed to find a more articulate critic of the state of contemporary science on here, so any sort of shill or narrative pushing accusations won't fly.


Peace.

even then you still start from the assumption that the vaccines must be pure evil on a huge scale

I replied a couple of pages back to your post with the Switzerland data just saying that if you look at the bigger picture the drop isn't even that shocking but you didn't pick that up, probably since it doesn't fit the narritive you've already written for yourself

now I went to take a look at the data for The Netherlands and took a larger timeframe myself

https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/cijfers/detail/37230ned



what sort of "sigma event" contributes to almost every month in 2021?

might be the lockdowns are responsible for a significant increase in births that is seeing a perfectly plausibe fall in 2022?

or MUST it be the vax?

being critical is good but you have to keep an open mind and limit confirmation bias