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BREAKING - State Surgeon General now recommends AGAINST vax for 18-39yr heart issues
10-08-2022, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By HateLiberals⏩
I live in California where a vaxx card is required for work, it was required to go to a restaurant and a bar, and my elderly relatives insisted I get the vaxx since I care for them. Now I'm going to tell them no and if they don't like it they can pay for a caregiver, but I won't lose my job if a vaxx is required as I love my job and that's hard to find.Dumb ass bitch
They also say to trust the science and all of them are liberal of course, whereas I'm moderate and my Dad is leaning that way, but he still wanted the vaxx.
10-08-2022, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Really on the bolded part? The vaccine was so rushed the data was barely there to make an informed decision during the "raging pandemic".100% agreed
If I was dropped into the world today as a 37 year old, I wouldn't be getting vaccinated for this.
If I was dropped into the world back in 2020 when the pandemic was raging hard, we had stronger variants flying around etc, it was worth the risks
If I was dropped into the world today as a 37 year old, I wouldn't be getting vaccinated for this.
If I was dropped into the world back in 2020 when the pandemic was raging hard, we had stronger variants flying around etc, it was worth the risks
Also, your overall post is quite the contrast from your previous one about public health officials playing politics for their own benefit. Wonder how much that was done on the opposite side, especially given the added financial interest!
Fuark, where is Analchron? He would have a field day today!
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10-08-2022, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
U wot m8?nothing wrong with banging your own female cousin
10-08-2022, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
You may want to go back and research data from 2020. Stronger variants weren’t a bother to younger people in that age group either. It never was. From month 2 we knew this. Older people with many preexisting conditions.100% agreed
If I was dropped into the world today as a 37 year old, I wouldn't be getting vaccinated for this.
If I was dropped into the world back in 2020 when the pandemic was raging hard, we had stronger variants flying around etc, it was worth the risks
If I was dropped into the world today as a 37 year old, I wouldn't be getting vaccinated for this.
If I was dropped into the world back in 2020 when the pandemic was raging hard, we had stronger variants flying around etc, it was worth the risks
10-08-2022, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
Surely he meant banging your 2cnd or 3rd female cousin. Not saying I agree, never did or would have myself.U wot m8?
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10-08-2022, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
very tradnothing wrong with banging your own female cousin
10-08-2022, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
I wasn't really poking too much at the politics there, was mostly just saying that it's not surprising Florida or this guy have come out with guidance like this. The dude has had similar strong views on COVID right from the start, he's likely in his role largely because those views align with the views of others in Florida's government, and this is par for the course considering the history there.Really on the bolded part? The vaccine was so rushed the data was barely there to make an informed decision during the "raging pandemic".
Also, your overall post is quite the contrast from your previous one about public health officials playing politics for their own benefit. Wonder how much that was done on the opposite side, especially given the added financial interest!
Fuark, where is Analchron? He would have a field day today!
Also, your overall post is quite the contrast from your previous one about public health officials playing politics for their own benefit. Wonder how much that was done on the opposite side, especially given the added financial interest!
Fuark, where is Analchron? He would have a field day today!
Originally Posted By tunejunkie⏩
That's mainly who was hit, but I have a half brother in law in his 50s who was on ECMO for something crazy like 8 weeks in Texas and is lucky to be alive albeit likely never quite the same again. He was apparently healthy, not obese, hardly that much older than me. My half sister called to him one day when he was on the couch in their basement, he didn't respond, barely had enough oxygen in his bloodstream to sustain brain function, bam into the hospital and induced coma.You may want to go back and research data from 2020. Stronger variants weren’t a bother to younger people in that age group either. It never was. From month 2 we knew this. Older people with many preexisting conditions.
Anyways I agree that the risks are no longer sufficient to outweigh the miniscule risks of the vaccines, I don't agree with the alarmist spin put on research that itself is not at all alarmist.
10-08-2022, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss⏩
Yeah you need to get the other 4 boosters. The fever and blood clots just mean it's working.Does this mean that those of us who are 40 and older should still get the jab?
I don't want to get it again as the 2nd shot and booster gave me a high fever and chills for 3 days each. I never get that sick and I think that's worse than getting Covid.
I don't want to get it again as the 2nd shot and booster gave me a high fever and chills for 3 days each. I never get that sick and I think that's worse than getting Covid.
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
I’m sorry for your BIL but data had always shown this was a pandemic of the old fat and unhealthy. It was never really a big risk for younger folksI wasn't really poking too much at the politics there, was mostly just saying that it's not surprising Florida or this guy have come out with guidance like this. The dude has had similar strong views on COVID right from the start, he's likely in his role largely because those views align with the views of others in Florida's government, and this is par for the course considering the history there.
That's mainly who was hit, but I have a half brother in law in his 50s who was on ECMO for something crazy like 8 weeks in Texas and is lucky to be alive albeit likely never quite the same again. He was apparently healthy, not obese, hardly that much older than me. My half sister called to him one day when he was on the couch in their basement, he didn't respond, barely had enough oxygen in his bloodstream to sustain brain function, bam into the hospital and induced coma.
Anyways I agree that the risks are no longer sufficient to outweigh the miniscule risks of the vaccines, I don't agree with the alarmist spin put on research that itself is not at all alarmist.
That's mainly who was hit, but I have a half brother in law in his 50s who was on ECMO for something crazy like 8 weeks in Texas and is lucky to be alive albeit likely never quite the same again. He was apparently healthy, not obese, hardly that much older than me. My half sister called to him one day when he was on the couch in their basement, he didn't respond, barely had enough oxygen in his bloodstream to sustain brain function, bam into the hospital and induced coma.
Anyways I agree that the risks are no longer sufficient to outweigh the miniscule risks of the vaccines, I don't agree with the alarmist spin put on research that itself is not at all alarmist.
10-08-2022, 02:20 PM
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Meanwhile Canadian govt still spending money on advertisements telling us to get our boosters
I literally experienced heart problems after getting my jab for months and I never had heart issues before
Can’t stand that I live under a government that coerced me into getting it
I literally experienced heart problems after getting my jab for months and I never had heart issues before
Can’t stand that I live under a government that coerced me into getting it
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10-08-2022, 03:34 PM
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Lmaooooo
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Most of Europe figured this out about a year ago LMAO.
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Originally Posted By Foxmulder0⏩
I'll never forget the story of some as sbag in Chicago I read patting himself on the back because he along with a room full of others clapped and encouraged a little girl who's mom said was scared of the shot.
It wasn't cute, it was disgusting. They pretty much bullied the poor thing into getting it by clapping, offering to buy her a balloon, and peer pressure.
It wasn't cute, it was disgusting. They pretty much bullied the poor thing into getting it by clapping, offering to buy her a balloon, and peer pressure.
10-09-2022, 09:58 AM
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Lol
10-09-2022, 10:14 AM
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I'm just going to repost what I wrote regarding this in the R/P section"
Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Alright, just read through the analysis and I have some issues with Ladapos decision.
-The first red flag is, there are no authors...We don't even know who conducted the study.
-This is a "Self-Controlled Case Series" That means the patients served as their own control meaning there was no 3rd party recording data.
-The article goes on to say that there is no increase in all causes of deaths 28 days following the vaccination in any age group. In fact there was a decrease in all cause mortality older than the age of 60 who were vaccinated.
-Under the Discussion/Conclusions section it says;"Risk for both all cause and cardiac-related deaths was substantially higher 28 days following covid-19 infection"....not vaccination, infection. So if this study is proving anything, its proving that these heart problems (that the article lists from the ICD-10 list) are occurring in people whether or not they were vaccinated and that the vaccinecouldbe a contributor to heart problems, but so can the virus itself among the unvaccinated and thats regardless if you were asymptomatic or displayed symptoms while infected, reinforcing that covid has been much more than "just a cold"
-Now, for limitations, The study says it cannot determine the causative nature of a participants death. They used death certificate data and not medical records (which is....odd).
-The primary analysis for the younger male age group only had a sample size of N=20.
-The article mentions significant mortality in adult age groups (older than 39), and it doesnt account for confounders due to age because the majority of the cardiac related deaths is still higher in the >60 age group. So, when they removed the >60 year old age group from the analysis, the statistically significant increase in cardiac deaths in vaccinated males basically disappeared.
-Also, What Joseph Ladapo didnt account for is that Forida has more per capita all-cause death than California and New York, both of which have higher vaccination rates than florida, so if vaccines were implicated in the cause of death you'd expect California and New York to be much higher.
TLDR:If we're going to follow this analysis (which has its issues) its still inconclusive whether or not the vaccines cause cardiac related problems because simply getting infected with covid can cause a person to exhibit the exact same cardiomyopathies as theorized to occur because of the vaccines.
-The first red flag is, there are no authors...We don't even know who conducted the study.
-This is a "Self-Controlled Case Series" That means the patients served as their own control meaning there was no 3rd party recording data.
-The article goes on to say that there is no increase in all causes of deaths 28 days following the vaccination in any age group. In fact there was a decrease in all cause mortality older than the age of 60 who were vaccinated.
-Under the Discussion/Conclusions section it says;"Risk for both all cause and cardiac-related deaths was substantially higher 28 days following covid-19 infection"....not vaccination, infection. So if this study is proving anything, its proving that these heart problems (that the article lists from the ICD-10 list) are occurring in people whether or not they were vaccinated and that the vaccinecouldbe a contributor to heart problems, but so can the virus itself among the unvaccinated and thats regardless if you were asymptomatic or displayed symptoms while infected, reinforcing that covid has been much more than "just a cold"
-Now, for limitations, The study says it cannot determine the causative nature of a participants death. They used death certificate data and not medical records (which is....odd).
-The primary analysis for the younger male age group only had a sample size of N=20.
-The article mentions significant mortality in adult age groups (older than 39), and it doesnt account for confounders due to age because the majority of the cardiac related deaths is still higher in the >60 age group. So, when they removed the >60 year old age group from the analysis, the statistically significant increase in cardiac deaths in vaccinated males basically disappeared.
-Also, What Joseph Ladapo didnt account for is that Forida has more per capita all-cause death than California and New York, both of which have higher vaccination rates than florida, so if vaccines were implicated in the cause of death you'd expect California and New York to be much higher.
TLDR:If we're going to follow this analysis (which has its issues) its still inconclusive whether or not the vaccines cause cardiac related problems because simply getting infected with covid can cause a person to exhibit the exact same cardiomyopathies as theorized to occur because of the vaccines.
10-09-2022, 10:39 AM
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I just sent this link to my family in California.
In b4 meltdown and they tell me they will never see me again unless I get the vaxx.
In b4 meltdown and they tell me they will never see me again unless I get the vaxx.
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Originally Posted By leoaa777⏩
I messed up boyos. Work made me get it, but at least it was J&J. Am I gonna make it?
10-09-2022, 12:16 PM
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The companies who rushed out the vaccine were part of the largest lawsuits in history.
BRB, J&J putting cancer causing sh!t in baby powder.
BRB, during rollout of C19 vaccines the Chantix drug from Pfizer meant to help ppl quit smoking is recalled for causing cancer. (Divine intervention, the timing of that.)
BRB, let's withhold data for 90 years.
Dozens of examples of these shady companies getting sued for mass murder either through sheer negligence or perhaps even malicious, soft-kill intent.
Dozens of examples of the same world leaders lobbying to "Save grandma" convincing people to abort their own unborn children.
Why would anyone fall for this sh!t? They are "stopping the spread"of humanity.
BRB, J&J putting cancer causing sh!t in baby powder.
BRB, during rollout of C19 vaccines the Chantix drug from Pfizer meant to help ppl quit smoking is recalled for causing cancer. (Divine intervention, the timing of that.)
BRB, let's withhold data for 90 years.
Dozens of examples of these shady companies getting sued for mass murder either through sheer negligence or perhaps even malicious, soft-kill intent.
Dozens of examples of the same world leaders lobbying to "Save grandma" convincing people to abort their own unborn children.
Why would anyone fall for this sh!t? They are "stopping the spread"of humanity.
10-09-2022, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By markkillerings⏩
YesI think you can counter that by just taking more booster shots.
Any logical person would know this.
More is always better.
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
Bro, trust the $cienceThe companies who rushed out the vaccine were part of the largest lawsuits in history.
BRB, J&J putting cancer causing sh!t in baby powder.
BRB, during rollout of C19 vaccines the Chantix drug from Pfizer meant to help ppl quit smoking is recalled for causing cancer. (Divine intervention, the timing of that.)
BRB, let's withhold data for 90 years.
Dozens of examples of these shady companies getting sued for mass murder either through sheer negligence or perhaps even malicious, soft-kill intent.
Dozens of examples of the same world leaders lobbying to "Save grandma" convincing people to abort their own unborn children.
Why would anyone fall for this sh!t? They are "stopping the spread"of humanity.
BRB, J&J putting cancer causing sh!t in baby powder.
BRB, during rollout of C19 vaccines the Chantix drug from Pfizer meant to help ppl quit smoking is recalled for causing cancer. (Divine intervention, the timing of that.)
BRB, let's withhold data for 90 years.
Dozens of examples of these shady companies getting sued for mass murder either through sheer negligence or perhaps even malicious, soft-kill intent.
Dozens of examples of the same world leaders lobbying to "Save grandma" convincing people to abort their own unborn children.
Why would anyone fall for this sh!t? They are "stopping the spread"of humanity.
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss⏩
The problem with the crazies on both sides, that being the resident misc anti vax retards as well as the blue haired libcuck sheeps, is that they all are unable to view things as shades of gray and instead see everything as black and white.Does this mean that those of us who are 40 and older should still get the jab?
I don't want to get it again as the 2nd shot and booster gave me a high fever and chills for 3 days each. I never get that sick and I think that's worse than getting Covid.
I don't want to get it again as the 2nd shot and booster gave me a high fever and chills for 3 days each. I never get that sick and I think that's worse than getting Covid.
I fall into male 35 year old category and I got the moderna vaccine and have zero regrets. Why? Because at the time I saw the alpha and delta strains of covid as a serious disease and I took the risk of vaccine to protect myself from it. I have no plans to get the current booster because covid in late 2022 has evolved to a much weaker disease and the vaccine is no longer worth the risk.
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Originally Posted By yeshli2nuts⏩
i believe this is known as cuckold copeThe problem with the crazies on both sides, that being the resident misc anti vax retards as well as the blue haired libcuck sheeps, is that they all are unable to view things as shades of gray and instead see everything as black and white.
I fall into male 35 year old category and I got the moderna vaccine and have zero regrets. Why? Because at the time I saw the alpha and delta strains of covid as a serious disease and I took the risk of vaccine to protect myself from it. I have no plans to get the current booster because covid in late 2022 has evolved to a much weaker disease and the vaccine is no longer worth the risk.
I fall into male 35 year old category and I got the moderna vaccine and have zero regrets. Why? Because at the time I saw the alpha and delta strains of covid as a serious disease and I took the risk of vaccine to protect myself from it. I have no plans to get the current booster because covid in late 2022 has evolved to a much weaker disease and the vaccine is no longer worth the risk.

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Originally Posted By yeshli2nuts⏩
instead of the vax, I took monoclonal antibodies with deltaThe problem with the crazies on both sides, that being the resident misc anti vax retards as well as the blue haired libcuck sheeps, is that they all are unable to view things as shades of gray and instead see everything as black and white.
I fall into male 35 year old category and I got the moderna vaccine and have zero regrets. Why? Because at the time I saw the alpha and delta strains of covid as a serious disease and I took the risk of vaccine to protect myself from it. I have no plans to get the current booster because covid in late 2022 has evolved to a much weaker disease and the vaccine is no longer worth the risk.
I fall into male 35 year old category and I got the moderna vaccine and have zero regrets. Why? Because at the time I saw the alpha and delta strains of covid as a serious disease and I took the risk of vaccine to protect myself from it. I have no plans to get the current booster because covid in late 2022 has evolved to a much weaker disease and the vaccine is no longer worth the risk.
Omicron doesn’t warrant anything, 2 day bug
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Originally Posted By yeshli2nuts⏩
"I have zero regrets"The problem with the crazies on both sides, that being the resident misc anti vax retards as well as the blue haired libcuck sheeps, is that they all are unable to view things as shades of gray and instead see everything as black and white.
I fall into male 35 year old category and I got the moderna vaccine and have zero regrets. Why? Because at the time I saw the alpha and delta strains of covid as a serious disease and I took the risk of vaccine to protect myself from it. I have no plans to get the current booster because covid in late 2022 has evolved to a much weaker disease and the vaccine is no longer worth the risk.
I fall into male 35 year old category and I got the moderna vaccine and have zero regrets. Why? Because at the time I saw the alpha and delta strains of covid as a serious disease and I took the risk of vaccine to protect myself from it. I have no plans to get the current booster because covid in late 2022 has evolved to a much weaker disease and the vaccine is no longer worth the risk.
"Vaccine is no longer worth the risk"
Pick one
10-09-2022, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By stevemckenna⏩
Exactly my point about the people who see things only as black and white. What part of "it was worth the risk then but it's not anymore" don't you understand?"I have zero regrets"
"Vaccine is no longer worth the risk"
Pick one
"Vaccine is no longer worth the risk"
Pick one
I mean, what exactly should I regret anyways? I got the shot a year and a half ago. Studies show any heart issues to happen within 28 days of the shot so I'm in the clear.
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10-09-2022, 01:06 PM
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Wait, wait, wait...risks? I thought it was completely studied and shown to be entirely safe and effective.
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Originally Posted By dmike100⏩
Obviously; pfizer and moderna would have said if it wasn't.Wait, wait, wait...risks? I thought it was completely studied and shown to be entirely safe and effective.
LMAO @ tin foilers.....
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