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post 1669847593 10-21-2022, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
As others mentioned, a conquering approach adds volatility not naturally sustainable.

"We must therefore remain as lambs and not become wolves. Sometimes, temptation causes us to think: this is difficult, these wolves are clever and I will be even more clever than they are!. Lambs, not fools, but lambs. Lambs with Christian cunning, but always as lambs. If you are like a lamb the Lord will defend you. But if you feel as strong like the wolf, he will not defend you, he will leave you alone. And the wolves will viciously eat you. (Santa Marta, 14 February 2014)"
they might go down with the ship, which is what's happening to europe and america.


sometimes it backfires too like how they get kicked out and oppressed historically. but within the rules of law when those who abide by judaism and those who abide by other abrahamic religions live together.


Those under Judaism always come to power and wealth... until some type of uphieval.


this has been a proven cycle time and time and time again.
post 1669847643 10-21-2022, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted By TheGoldenBull⏩
china isn't communism tho.
Socialist regime , communist party, Mao ding dongism… semantics

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post 1669847863 10-21-2022, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah⏩
The world is in turmoil because they do not follow the will of Allah srs
Well, I say the world is in turmoil and has been going downhill because people don't follow Joseph Smith.

Do you see how that sounds?

Essentially, the TLDR is that humans need the fear of a God stricken into them so they won't rape and pillage and do bad things.
post 1669848083 10-21-2022, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
Socialist regime , communist party, Mao ding dongism… semantics

Mr. Inoki
semantics is all that you posted.


but the fundamentals are not communism. it's something else, closer to monarchy
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
It would be like any liberal city in America, except world-wide id guess.
The world wouldn't be the left side with religion either.
post 1669848333 10-21-2022, 01:33 PM
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Libtards thinking the world would be a utopia if everyone were an atheist

Stupid delusional ****s I tell you.

Truth is we are nothing without God who is real. You’re in For a huge shocker when you die
post 1669848463 10-21-2022, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
The world wouldn't be the left side with religion either.
If everybody submitted to god and abandoned their sins, it would be even better than the left side
post 1669848653 10-21-2022, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By TheGoldenBull⏩
semantics is all that you posted.


but the fundamentals are not communism. it's something else, closer to monarchy
Japan o Phile here

Any good books for our own edification you recommend? As well read as I am and I am, I’m always on the look out for more chinese history reads.

Aren’t religious sects mostly underground in China and subject to persecution by law? Or is religion outright banned there? Like freedom and protests?!
post 1669848993 10-21-2022, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Dreyth⏩
If everybody submitted to god and abandoned their sins, it would be even better than the left side
1-800-come-on-now

Good luck getting funding for research into gene therapies and the use of CRISPR with evangelicals in the way calling everything they don't understand "the devil"
post 1669849203 10-21-2022, 01:45 PM
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Humans are just another animal that has lived / is living on this planet. What makes us different is our capacity to indulge in our fantasies. A capacity only made possible by an almost infinitesimaly small number of outlier individuals in the course of our existence.

Our current state is an anomaly made possible by an anomaly.
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post 1669849593 10-21-2022, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
1-800-come-on-now

Good luck getting funding for research into gene therapies and the use of CRISPR with evangelicals in the way calling everything they don't understand "the devil"
And there is your problem. People not submitting to God and obeying and being good people.


If everyone truly followed Jesus, we would be in utopia.
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post 1669850043 10-21-2022, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
And there is your problem. People not submitting to God and obeying and being good people.


If everyone truly followed Jesus, we would be in utopia.
Without medical and technological advances we would not be better than the left panel with religion.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
And there is your problem. People not submitting to God and obeying and being good people.


If everyone truly followed Jesus, we would be in utopia.
That's how the vast majority of the peasantry live in the old world for hundreds of years and they were riddled with endless wars and disease and famine.

Without medical and technological advances we would not be better than the left panel with religion.


I have no dog in this fight, I'm a Deist, Its all silly to me.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
I have no dog in this fight, I'm a Deist, Its all silly to me.
Deist believe a Creator/God/Higher Being exists. How'd you come to that conclusion?
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Say, ˹O believers,˺ We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to Allah we all submit.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
That's how the vast majority of the peasantry live in the old world for hundreds of years and they were riddled with endless wars and disease and famine.
So you're claiming all the people on earth, from the peasantry to the rulers and kings above them, were all in honest obedience to Jesus Christ?

and somehow you talk about how the peasants lived, and then also somehow tie that in with the wars? do peasants decide which kingdoms go to war and why?

huh?


yeah?


okay then. try again
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
Deist believe a Creator/God/Higher Being exists. How'd you come to that conclusion?
I believe there is "something" more powerful than us out there but it either doesn't know we exist, or it knows we exists and simply doesn't care, just like you have no feeling for a randomy ant colony in your back yard thus "being" feels the same about us and it certainly doesn't care if we're masturbating or having sex with member of the same sex or eating shellfish.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
So you're claiming all the people on earth, from the peasantry to the rulers and kings above them, were all in honest obedience to Jesus Christ?

and somehow you talk about how the peasants lived, and then also somehow tie that in with the wars? do peasants decide which kingdoms go to war and why?

huh?


yeah?


okay then. try again
Fact of the matter is people were far more religious back then, and there was unironically more strife and violence back then than there is now. Humanity going back to 95%+ penetration of religion in homes isn't going to "make things better"
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Fact of the matter is people were far more religious back then, and there was unironically more strife and violence back then than there is now. Humanity going back to 95%+ penetration of religion in homes isn't going to "make things better"
Again, the topic is, if people actually followed Christ correctly


identifying as religious, and then having an affair with your best friends wife, is not following Christ.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
Again, the topic is, if people actually followed Christ correctly


identifying as religious, and then having an affair with your best friends wife, is not following Christ.
Yes it is, because you can just pray for forgiveness after the infidelity. More to the point, what is the correct way to "follow christ?" Because my aunt is a kooky baptist in Texas that thinks her brand of Christianity is the only correct one because she lives her life by the rules of the old testament.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Yes it is, because you can just pray for forgiveness after the infidelity. More to the point, what is the correct way to "follow christ?" Because my aunt is a kooky baptist in Texas that thinks her brand of Christianity is the only correct one because she lives her life by the rules of the old testament.
What do you suggest, guru?

The past is littered with horrible things. Plus, the doctrine says to repent and not continue, as forgiveness does not come to someone who does not do anything about their sin.
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Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
What do you suggest, guru?

The past is littered with horrible things. Plus, the doctrine says to repent and not continue, as forgiveness does not come to someone who does not do anything about their sin.
Yeah, that's what it says, but you'll still be forgiven if you commit the sin over and over.
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