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post 1673285973 12-21-2022, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
didn't read thread, so should i or should i not start lifting
yeah I would at least do mid rep compound movements and cardio for health and longevity and overall aesthetics.
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post 1673286293 12-21-2022, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
didn't read thread, so should i or should i not start lifting
You should adopt my patented minimalistic routine

I have the best physique on the misc
post 1673286723 12-21-2022, 03:15 PM
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tbh who the **** really cares

if it came down to an athletic 6'2 190lb guy trained in some physical combat discipline vs some bloaty 6'2 280lb roidcel getting out of breath going up the stairs, then I'm putting bets on and listening to the former
post 1673287693 12-21-2022, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
On the misc it is better to argue with people bigger than you, telling you why they are bigger than you, than to listen to them tell you why they are bigger than you.

Am I right?

and if you can't come up with a good argument against them just blame steroids.

Then seek confirmation bias from other guys who are smaller than the big person as to why they are so much smaller than the big guy.

Bunch of ****ing clowns.
You were doing posing classes no? Gotten your pro card yet?
post 1673288613 12-21-2022, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted By ye193x
You were doing posing classes no? Gotten your pro card yet?
nah i learned bodybuilding too late/didnt have superior genetics to get it early on, and now im too old to push my body like that anymore. Everytime I cut down and then gain some weight back post show my heart gets ****ed from all the weight fluctuations and systemic stress from the weight fluctuations. I spent my first 5 years being an ignorant twat, basically I had the same attitude I have now except I didnt know what I was doing, so I obviously wasted my time. Now I am just trying to get my point across especially to the same people being like me, so they dont do the same thing and waste 5 years thinking they know it all before realizing the **** I have finally figured out that makes it MUCH easier.

I did a whole off season on trt and then prepped on trt all while having a pretty busted knee and won 2 overalls, mostly did it to prove the stuff I know now is good enough to keep me fit and in shape for life on only trt before I stepped out of bodybuilding and it did. If anything I am going to have to get off TRT because I need to lose muscle faster because I have already decreased my diet and lifting volume and cant lose any size.
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post 1673288713 12-21-2022, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad
You should adopt my patented minimalistic routine

I have the best physique on the misc
I've seen your routine. How are you able to get your results with such little volume?
post 1673288983 12-21-2022, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal
I've seen your routine. How are you able to get your results with such little volume?
the better and more intent and intensity you put into every lift, every rep, the less volume you have to do. Also doing more compounds correctly can be VERY efficient, but doing them not REALLY good will cost you double or more.
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post 1673292063 12-21-2022, 04:54 PM
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post 1673292953 12-21-2022, 05:11 PM
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post 1673294023 12-21-2022, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
I really dont agree with this statement, there are far many more reasons besides this and this wont remotely be the case for everyone based on their levels, but IF I did agree it still would not matter for the information that person has which is the point I am trying to make. Constantly going back to referencing the fact they themselves are not natural has very little to nothing to do with the information they are presenting unless it is specifically only about themselves. But if I am saying that doing a hack squat in a certain way is more beneficial, that has nothing to do with with if I am natty or not. You either argue the information I presented, or you dont, but referencing "but peds' has fukking nothing to do with anything.
You're missing the point entirely. All that high level chit you like to preach about? A natty could do every last bit of it and still get less results than if he hopped on a few cycles with a half decent training/nutrition regimen. Yes, all that small stuff matters at the elite level, but for the average gym goer who just wants to look great naked, a few years decent training and a couple bike rides will do far more for that guy than a lifetime of doing every fookin thing right without gear. Your advice is good (probably) for someone who wants to be a competitive bodybuilder. Not too many of those on the Misc...
Originally Posted By imbeingcereal
I've seen your routine. How are you able to get your results with such little volume?
Being completely full of chit typically helps.
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post 1673294403 12-21-2022, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine
You're missing the point entirely. All that high level chit you like to preach about? A natty could do every last bit of it and still get less results than if he hopped on a few cycles with a half decent training/nutrition regimen. Yes, all that small stuff matters at the elite level, but for the average gym goer who just wants to look great naked, a few years decent training and a couple bike rides will do far more for that guy than a lifetime of doing every fookin thing right without gear. Your advice is good (probably) for someone who wants to be a competitive bodybuilder. Not too many of those on the Misc...
There is definitely a point where, if you're natty, doing everything it takes to make more gains is not worth the effort.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon
Yeah OK Tim.

This thread isn't about your pancake ass 🤭🤭🤭

Did you wipe the **** off your hands before or after typing that out?
Did your dad wipe the chit off his dik after fukking you in the ass?
post 1673297903 12-21-2022, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
the better and more intent and intensity you put into every lift, every rep, the less volume you have to do. Also doing more compounds correctly can be VERY efficient, but doing them not REALLY good will cost you double or more.
What's a good compounds-focused routine IYO? I'm looking to cut down on lifting and mostly just want to be strong and lean. I know most results will be diet, but instead of doing PPL 2x a week, I'm looking to do a compounds-focused routine 3-4x a week and do more cardio on other days
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad
You act like I haven’t taken steroids?

I’ve taken steroids and I went from a 315 1 rep max on bench to 405 in a matter of 12 weeks - I went from 215lbs to 248lb in weight while maintaining the same bf %

Steroids probably only contributed roughly 10 percent to my increase in strength and size though according to you right?

In fact I don’t think nattys even understand how much steroids help… natty lifting and enhanced lifting is night and day
Fuark the power of roids. Anyone who's naturally worked up to a 3 plate bench knows fkn insane that progression is. It also demonstrates how much of a pussy a guy roiding but only benching 2 plates for a few reps is.
post 1673300273 12-21-2022, 07:19 PM
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Yup pretty much. Then in real life they just kiss ass because you are big. Srs
post 1673300653 12-21-2022, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
yes we all know brad that you would be 320 and 5% bf if you continued to take steroids for years

you have superior genetics and work effort and bodybuilding abilities and EVERYTHING else in life, you have the best apartment on the misc with the best view, you bang the hottest women of every miscer, and you make the best posts

you are the best person at everything in your own little world Bradley.

Feel better?

Lets base your 1 experience with steroids that that is the same experience everyone has and continues to have cycle after cycle year after year.

You know, it only took me 1 month to go from a 12 minute mile to a 6 minute mile, If I would have kept running I would have been completing a mile in -1286 minutes within a couple years.
Agreed. I work with a guy who is 6'4" and 147 pounds... And is on gear. That's the other side of the coin. Not everybody responds the same. That's for sure.
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I like your posts and don’t argue with you but I’m also not natty sometimes.
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine
You're missing the point entirely. All that high level chit you like to preach about? A natty could do every last bit of it and still get less results than if he hopped on a few cycles with a half decent training/nutrition regimen. Yes, all that small stuff matters at the elite level, but for the average gym goer who just wants to look great naked, a few years decent training and a couple bike rides will do far more for that guy than a lifetime of doing every fookin thing right without gear. Your advice is good (probably) for someone who wants to be a competitive bodybuilder. Not too many of those on the Misc...



Being completely full of chit typically helps.
So what you are saying is because I am preaching to do things the most correct way and the most efficient way to get the most stimulation out of the least volume, that principle can't apply to natty people because of this argument here? I like doing things the BEST possible way, I guess I am alone in that /shrug

That makes no sense. Really think about that. Do things less right or less efficient because you are natty. I feel like something else is going on here.
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Originally Posted By bsrkoacar2
Agreed. I work with a guy who is 6'4" and 147 pounds... And is on gear. That's the other side of the coin. Not everybody responds the same. That's for sure.
Sounds like that dude needs to learn how to eat. All the gear in the world won't help you if you only eat 1200 cals a day
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