That's the thing, you got to sustain bodybuilding naturally, being on gear guys look great for a comparatively short time. I'd rather look good for decades, I'm 63 and still work out and carry a massive amount more muscle and less fat than my friends.

so true clive, I remember reading your posts while I was in middle school (srs) a true misc hero

probably for the same reason I will look significantly different, because its not healthy to stay huge, its not fun eating 6+ meals a day of boring lean protein after doing so for a decade +, because you are more functional as a human and can live longer eating differently/living at another body weight. He was done with bodybuilding, he switched his focus and efforts elsewhere.

Someone who goes all in on something and then knows its time to hang up the towel isnt going to keep doing that same thing but at 70% effort, someone like him is going to switch the focus elsewhere its in their personality to need something to progress deeply in.

he said he came in smaller at the the 75 olympia because he didnt have enough time, which means a shorter cycle. Same as saying training without drugs was pointless, or else he could have maintained most of the bulk from 74.

One of the gurus he said he's learned from, Broderick Chavez, has literally said before that you just need to stimulate the muscle and let the drugs do the work.

Let's see...

- Arnold is a well-known pathological liar
- Arnold is well known to step on others in his paths to glory
- the secrecy behind oj and lifting hobbies is a story as old as sloots slooting
- Anrold has admitted he did sterons, but of course minimizes it at every turn
- Bodybuilding is well known to be riddled with narcissistic weirdos with bigorexia style body dismorphia
- Look at how Arnold turned from Republican to PC SJW liberal clown as soon as Trump won in 2016


But yeah, let's just take Big Arnie's word for everything and chaulk it all up to hard work and once in a thousand years level genetics... lmao

That has been my philosophy as well since 2005.

the thing is the guys who cant sustain their physique well off gear(or on true dr trt levels below 1000) never lifted right, they just grew because they went into the gym, pushed themselves and stimulated random muscles chaotically, and grew because of the gear and food.

When you truly understand lifting(seriously not to sound cocky just to explain the perspective) extensively, it is CLEAR AS DAY the guys who only got by because of juice, and guys who actually LEARNED bodybuilding top to bottom and can sustain tons of their gains post gear.

The unfortunate reality is that gear users can be cheaters and not so much cheaters. Most users are in fact cheaters just skipping steps to jump ahead, but a very few(usually pros by that point or making tons of money coaching) use it just to truly surpass far beyond normal human limits.

Instagram Chris Tuttle or Allen Cress, both brilliant individuals very successful, retired bodybuilders who both have incredible physiques they could still go pro in if they were trying, but they live very busy lives and barely spend time in the gym