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post 1676159163 01-30-2023, 08:01 AM
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Sorry for your loss, OP.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
I don’t understand this mentality and the utter GLEE that misc has over vax side effects and deaths.
You do not have to understand it. Just get the fuk out of the way and let real men run shiit.

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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
84% increase compared to

1. pre covid era
2. covid era pre vaccination
3. every year up to vaccination

which is it?

because otherwise you are ignoring the cardiac risk from contracting covid if you havent been vaccinated. Undoubtedly that risk is higher as you get older but its there in younger people as well. And this study also cant account for undiagnosed covid which could, in theory, account for all of that 84% increase.

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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
if you could actually read and comprehend what I had written here and previously..

im not an 'avid vaxxie'. I read the available evidence and for me at my age i was satisfied the first two jabs were the correct call.Havent had the booster. For much younger people i think the vax is probably unnecessary, but there is very little evidence it is catastrophically dangerous for the reasons i wrote above. Read it again.
Such cope lol.

Hopefully nothing bad happens to you.
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
It’s a concept that women and soy cuck Democrats do not understand, just like gun control, you would rather crouch in the corner and wait to be shot rather than shoot back, you would rather run to a man or to government for help instead of defending yourself, It’s a different mentality, you would rather bow down to criminals rather than secure the border and shoot the looters, you would rather have your daughter use the same locker-room as a ****phile man who says he’s a woman rather than castrate him and then shoot him in the head.

retards and evil people deserve to die, they don’t deserve a second chance, nor our pity.

Simple.
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Originally Posted By Vrykul⏩
Knew him from elementary, skinny, doesn't even smoke or drink. The reaper does not discriminate boyos
When did he get vaccinated? Which one did he get?
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ITT: People who were forced to take the jab like everyone else are mad they were forced now larp on a gay dying indian bodybuilding forum LARP as 'purebloods' to cope.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Some over the past two years have been from damage due to lockdowns(alcohol abuse and weight gain).

Some may have been from increased stress and all that goes along with it.

Some may have been from delayed and/or missed diagnosis due to delayed care during lockdowns.


However, all of those reasons should be subsiding as the stress should be significantly reduced, healthcare appointments have been on track for 2 years now, lockdowns aren’t really a thing anymore and people can be as active as they want.


So yes all of those things played a role, but the further we get from the middle of 2020 the smaller that ripple should be. However, it is also known that people have died from the injections and there have been no long term studies on their effects. The best chance for honest insight into that is to conduct the studies now. That is why so many are adamant about shining a light on it. And yes I know I realize that can have the opposite effect by making everyone tune out if people are screaming about every death resulting from the injection. However, many cases where it is a legit possibility should be discussed or at least mentioned so that the momentum builds for people to demand these injections(of a type that we have never safely or effectively created yet administered to billions of people) be studied for better understanding.
The after effects of months or now years of hard alcohol and drug abuse dont dissipate overnight. Assuming those people actually even stopped by now. Likely all the people who started drinking and doing hard drugs, are still doing them. Hence it not going down. And health care right now is not fixed at all. Its so fukking horrendously bad still. And not liberals crying about socialized healthcare bad. Ive actually been having to use it lately, and its soo sooo much worse still than pre-covid.

Stress might be the only one in the list that would have dissipated by now.
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
people that use heart attack and cardiac arrest as synonyms really rustle my jimmies

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Stop resisting (cardiac) arrest!
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
Would have been worse if he wasn’t vaccinated
Lmao. I know a young truck driver that just had a stroke. He is paralyzed on half of his body and can’t work. His wife divorced him too. I’m like damn
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Originally Posted By Immichaelski⏩
Lmao. I know a young truck driver that just had a stroke. He is paralyzed on half of his body and can’t work. His wife divorced him too. I’m like damn
Yall MFers lying like hell in these threads.
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Originally Posted By Guyfawkes1010⏩
The after effects of months or now years of hard alcohol and drug abuse dont dissipate overnight. Assuming those people actually even stopped by now. Likely all the people who started drinking and doing hard drugs, are still doing them. Hence it not going down. And health care right now is not fixed at all. Its so fukking horrendously bad still. And not liberals crying about socialized healthcare bad. Ive actually been having to use it lately, and its soo sooo much worse still than pre-covid.

Stress might be the only one in the list that would have dissipated by now.
Effects of alcohol and drug abuse don’t dissipate overnight, but they will certainly improve once you reduce or minimize alcohol or drug intake. And I have seen no articles that indicate alcohol or drug consumption is at the same level that it was in 2020(though it may be). Please tell me how healthcare is so much worse than it was in 2019. I agree there are lots of problems with it, but a huge aspect of the problem is that insurance and pharmaceutical companies drive care and they both prioritize profits over health. But that is not a new thing, though the extent of it exercised by pushing the injections is quite possibly a new high-water mark of that aspect. Plus we know that the injections harm people. They can cause blood clots, heart damage, neurological damage, autoimmune dysfunction, kidney injuries, along with a laundry list of other problems. Do you think we should continue to evaluate them in order to better understand them?
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Originally Posted By Guyfawkes1010⏩
Yall MFers lying like hell in these threads.
Based on what? As that’s what’s easiest for u to believe? It’s like me saying you’re not really a man, no proof of anything whatever lmao
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Guys, we’re not sure what’s causing the 3 standard deviations in excess cardiac deaths , we just know for sure, it’s not the vax
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Originally Posted By Noahbro⏩
Damn op sorry for your lost.

My coworker had a near stroke attack this past Friday, we had to call 911 to help. He’s only 42, he’s not fat or nothing
Strong medical jargon there buddy... so he had a headache or a TIA? Or anxiety?
I wish you all knew how stupid you sound when you go off like this. It'd be like this.

I just bought a new truck. It's a vtwin 8 with camshaft and duel gear transmission line. Does 8 litres to the gallon and 0-60 in 1.2s.


My thoughts on the vaccine and these deaths (are they increased or just being reported more? (It has increased since Covid started, not just since the vax rolled out). Covid causes coagulopathies, this is well known. The vaccine is meant to cause an immune response toncovid so likely does the same. So this guy may have died from vax, maybe Covid, maybe other.

If you accept the above then the questions get hard (impossible to answer for now). What is the risk of the vax (myocarditis? Clots?)?
What's the benefit (prevention? Transmission? Less sick? Less complications? Less severe complications?)?
Does the benefit outweigh the risk?
How do you determine this?
Are the people dropping from vax the same that would drop from Covid (genetically predispositioned to clot from this).
Is there a better risk stratification for who should get it?
Is natural immunity better?
What would modelling show now if we didn't vax at all?
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
Guys, we’re not sure what’s causing the 3 standard deviations in excess cardiac deaths , we just know for sure, it’s not the vax
Someone fully injected and boosted going on for almost 10 minutes about her recent heart issues and not a single mention of safe and effective.










I also wonder why she didn’t trust the science or her doctor when he said it was reflux.
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I contemplated getting the vax, and then I actually got covid and it was nothing.

Looking back now I realize what a ****ing scam and setup the whole thing was.

The way the media and government tried to ostracize everyone who didn't get the vax really makes me think it was just some big control experiment.

Covid answered the question of how much can the government really control the population while still allowing them to think they're free.

Scary stuff.
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Originally Posted By explosiveMidget⏩
It's scary chit i don't blame people for being in denial especially the vaxcels.

billions of people took it too so what we're going to witness in the future is nothing short of horrific i don't want to accept it either but reality is reality.
I’m agnostic to anything that I’m not sure about, but what do you think will happen in the future?
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
84% increase compared to

1. pre covid era
2. covid era pre vaccination
3. every year up to vaccination

which is it?

because otherwise you are ignoring the cardiac risk from contracting covid if you havent been vaccinated. Undoubtedly that risk is higher as you get older but its there in younger people as well. And this study also cant account for undiagnosed covid which could, in theory, account for all of that 84% increase.

take off the tinfoil hats


Link:

Originally Posted By Guyfawkes1010⏩
I have to wonder how many death are from all the alcoholics during lockdowns and after? Remember how many fukkin threads there was during late 2020 into 2021 there was about people drinking all day long non stop? Cause I do. Who knew that would have long term consequences.

Or all the druggos now

Or all the lack of good medical care in the chit west

Or ....
The Ethical Skeptic has been keeping track of excess mortalityexcluding deaths from covid or unnatural causes, meaning minus murder/suicide/drug overdose/car accidents/ets.

His analysis shows 540,000 excess deaths in the US since the vaccine roll out. I believe the numbers between the charts don't match up due to the CDC having a number of deaths not assigned to a cause [so not violent/not covid...just not designated] and that is why the second image has smaller total. He can only analyze CoD for deaths where a cause has been assigned.




Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
However, all of those reasons should be subsiding as the stress should be significantly reduced, healthcare appointments have been on track for 2 years now, lockdowns aren’t really a thing anymore and people can be as active as they want.


So yes all of those things played a role, but the further we get from the middle of 2020 the smaller that ripple should be.
Yes. You would think that those factors should be reducing. However excess deaths are increasing.


Originally Posted By explosiveMidget⏩
i wouldn't be so sure about that i know about 6 people who were all under 33 that "died suddenly" and i live in a small ass town in the middle of nowhere.

excess deaths are up in almost all countries too but i suppose that's just a coincidence

and by up i mean absolutely through the roof ever in history type up.

I wonder what could be causing it....
Right, highest rate of excess mortality in modern world history including our biggest wars.


Originally Posted By explosiveMidget⏩
It's scary chit i don't blame people for being in denial especially the vaxcels.

billions of people took it too so what we're going to witness in the future is nothing short of horrific i don't want to accept it either but reality is reality.
I think part of the mental disconnect is just baked in when it comes to understanding large numbers. If over a 5 year period some mechanism[s] of the injections causes the early death of 1 in 100 recipients then that is 10 million people for every 1 billion people who were injected with these mrna treatments.
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Originally Posted By PyleShazam⏩
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35456309/

196,992 unvaccinated were tested before and after covid and nothing happened to their hearts. Cope harder
didnt read, heres a study that says the opposite

https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o378
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
I think part of the mental disconnect is just baked in when it comes to understanding large numbers. If over a 5 year period some mechanism[s] of the injections causes the early death of 1 in 100 recipients then that is 10 million people for every 1 billion people who were injected with these mrna treatments.
I think another part is confirmation bias.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1645714633









And just for good measure.




https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1638504353






https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1645740883

Why aren’t you taking it anymore? Are you scared of a needle??






https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1651667383

Which those stats turned out to be total bullsh!t.









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i stand by all of that, its absolutely not the same as saying its completely safe and effective. The only bit I didnt do was the booster, because the data changed. I had covid, it was nothing, and the strain nas weakened. Therefore, I didnt get boosted.

the problem with uncritical miscers is that their minds run on rails and they just reject all evidence that doesnt fit their world view

just look at all the potato's itt who jump on any study that says the vaccine is dangerous (those studies, btw, are always 'massive) but totally ignore any evidence to the contrary. Pure cognitive dissonance
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
didnt read, heres a study that says the opposite

https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o378
Sounds about right…I don’t want to read what you have to say but I spent 5 seconds googling to find something that tells me what I want to hear.

Question #1.) for people in the study who received the injection and got Covid how did they determine what to attribute the heart issues to??

Question #2.) What percentage of the people who developed heart issues had received the injection

Question #3.) In other threads you said you got the booster but now you say you didn’t, so which is it??
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Sounds about right…I don’t want to read what you have to say but I spent 5 seconds googling to find something that tells me what I want to hear.

Question #1.) for people in the study who received the injection and got Covid how did they determine what to attribute the heart issues to??

Question #2.) What percentage of the people who developed heart issues had received the injection

Question #3.) In other threads you said you got the booster but now you say you didn’t, so which is it??
1, which study? far as I know you cant definitely attribute the heart problems to covid or the injection especially because so many were infected without knowing it (which is why miscers making these threads are utterly insane)

2. that data is out there. last i read, british studies, you were far more likely to have heart issues from covid than the vaccination. We know how many were vaccinated, we cant know how many had covid. Unless we were lied to, most hospital admissions were for the unvaccinated.

3. I said I was GOING to get boosted, before i did so the data changed so I didnt. If a more dangerous strain emerges, i might do.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
What about your family or friends who were vaxxed or what about elderly people who were talked into it in care homes etc you really dgaf?
If My family and friends or seniors who took the vaccine will get hurt or die from it, so be it, they made the choice. It’s like Being a smoker or an alcoholic, you’re going to get lung cancer and die or you’re going to die in a car crash, if so you are an idiot, and the world is a much better place without you, I would consider that a blessing, as God is getting retards out of my life,

Don’t get me wrong, on a personal level since I’m human I will obviously feel great sadness if it was my family member, but at the same time I have to realize they made their choice, I told them not to do it.

If your mom or dad keep smoking, even when they’re starting to cough, and their lungs are starting to look funny on the scan, at some point you’re going to have to let it go, they made their choice, they wanted to die, they don’t give a ****, so why should you?
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