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post 1678495983 03-07-2023, 08:18 AM
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[QUOTE=ChaliHo post_id=1678495833]My only issue with Hyundai is the break and ride, I used to rent cars at Hertz when I would travel up state so my car didnt rack up miles and the Hyundais they gave me all had a rough ride, and bad break like stiff break.

I drove a veloster, a elantra and a sonata[/QUOTE]
The brakes I'll be ok with since I'm used to sports cars and sporty sedans. I do wonder about the ride. Going from a 328 to this will probably be a shock. but then again if I got something like a sequoia, tahoe, suburban, etc. I would probably find they all ride rough compared to a tiny BMW.

[QUOTE=Destor post_id=1678495973]Genesis interiors are so nice too, I would have gone for a GV70 for the dash styling etc but ended up with a GV80 for the extra space

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If it looks anything like the G80 I dig it

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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
go read how they count those, it is just number of visits/warranty claims but it could be anything, for minor stuff. maybe the door handle rattles or the radio deck crashes and needs a software update.... its an indication of quality control at the factory but its not what most people really care about, which is long term mechanical reliability. the car could be in for minor fixes that cost nothing of under $100, people care about the engine or transmission blowing out in 6 years after its out of warranty
Well now it all makes sense. Yeah, little minor things probably aren't an issue, but it's all the serious stuff down the road that never holds up or is compromised.
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Originally Posted By ChaliHo⏩
My issue with Hyundai is the break and ride, I used to rent cars at Hertz when I would travel up state so my car didnt rack up miles and the Hyundais they gave me all had a rough ride, and bad break like stiff break. The drive was rough as hell.

I drove a veloster, a elantra and a sonata
That's because they use a lot of cheap mechanical and suspension components. Kia/Hyundai has always been notorious for their bean counting cost cutting measures.
post 1678496333 03-07-2023, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
To be fair Genesis probably has much better cars as it seems like they actually try to build something premium under that badge.
Yea genesis is nice but I was referring to buying a used luxury car over a new KIA.
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post 1678496663 03-07-2023, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
That's because they use a lot of cheap mechanical and suspension components. Kia/Hyundai has always been notorious for their bean counting cost cutting measures.
Yeah it was horrible I was shocked, I remember riding shotgun when my bro was drivin the Hyundai Veloster and I was getting dizzy that ride was bad it felt like I was citting on wood underneath the seat, the suspension was bad too the break was very bad not smooth and it was a new car that hertz gave us, but then the other hyundais all had similar issues,

The Volkswagen Golf GTI was a similar car to the Veloster but it had no issue with break stiffness, it was a fun ass ride I had one when I was a kid and it was fun to drive around.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
go read how they count those, it is just number of visits/warranty claims but it could be anything, for minor stuff. maybe the door handle rattles or the radio deck crashes and needs a software update.... its an indication of quality control at the factory but its not what most people really care about, which is long term mechanical reliability. the car could be in for minor fixes that cost nothing of under $100, people care about the engine or transmission blowing out in 6 years after its out of warranty
Minor stuff on new vehicles tends to be almost as annoying as the bigger stuff, just because it requires consuming your time with service visits etc.

The JD Power Dependability Study specifically looks at 3-year-old vehicles, it's an assessment of the dependability of new vehicles under warranty. JD Power has a separate Initial Quality Study for the first 90 days after taking ownership. Much of this is geared more towards vehicle manufacturers and helping them improve their processes and products etc, but it's the best we have.



Looking at Hyundai's problems 6+ years ago might not be overly helpful in determining what you may experience in a vehicle purchased today, for what I think are obvious reasons.
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Originally Posted By koreannoodles77⏩
Literally everything you states applies to cheap ass domestic brands like Chevy, FCA and Ford. Who gives af about resale? German cars are twice the price and still plummet in value in 5yrs with chit relability. Cars are not an asset, if you dont want to lose money then stick to riding a bike.
German cars plummet in value because they are extremely expensive to repair outside of warranty. 20k for a new transmission when the car isn't even worth that much. Domestic medium duty and heavy duty vehicles hold their value better than anything that isn't an exotic, or a corvette.

These trucks and SUVs are used for camping/hunting/fishing and construction long after their passenger car life is over. They have heavy duty brakes, axles, transmissions, and low revving simple to repair V8 engines that can run forever. You can pull a short block out of any junk yard and turn it into a race engine for very little $$$.

The couple of Kias and Hyundai's that qualify for Uber black will hold their value fairly well because they get snagged up by the people who want to drive a taxi for a living, but once they are outside of Uber's age range they aren't going to be worth a dime because they will have ridiculous mileage. There is artificial demand for them as a poor man's taxi.
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post 1678497673 03-07-2023, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
German cars plummet in value because they are extremely expensive to repair outside of warranty. 20k for a new transmission when the car isn't even worth that much. Domestic medium duty and heavy duty vehicles hold their value better than anything that isn't an exotic, or a corvette.

These trucks and SUVs are used for camping/hunting/fishing and construction long after their passenger car life is over. They have heavy duty brakes, axles, transmissions, and low revving simple to repair V8 engines that can run forever. You can pull a short block out of any junk yard and turn it into a race engine for very little $$$.

The couple of Kias and Hyundai's that qualify for Uber black will hold their value fairly well because they get snagged up by the people who want to drive a taxi for a living, but once they are outside of Uber's age range they aren't going to be worth a dime because they will have ridiculous mileage. There is artificial demand for them as a poor man's taxi.
bro, what are you talking about? First of all you can drive uber with cars as old as 15 years. There is literally zero value in banking on resale of a 15 year old car, regardless of make or model (excluding collector cars and whatnot).
midsize pickups like the tacoma and ranger are about the only vehicles I can think of worth even mentioning for resale value after being that old.

Second of all, there are loads of kias that are older than that which have held their value just as well as domestic SUVs. Go look up old sorentos and sante fe's. They are selling for about 1/3 their MSRP, same as tahoes and suburbans.
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Do look nice. I was looking at the 2023 Sequoia, then decided I would never pay over 40k for any land vehicle ever. If the tow capacity is legit, I'd actually consider this. Need something to haul a boat and my Jeep WK2 has a 7200lb tow capacity (I'd never tow that much weight though).

Edit: Ooof. 5k tow capacity. That's pathetic.
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[QUOTE=Jacobcapra post_id=1678495983]If it looks anything like the G80 I dig it

[img]https://www.hdcarwallpapers.com/walls/2018_genesis_g80_sport_interior-HD.jpg[/QUOTE]This was the GV70 I test drove, insanely nice inside especially at the price point

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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
Do look nice. I was looking at the 2023 Sequoia, then decided I would never pay over 40k for any land vehicle ever. If the tow capacity is legit, I'd actually consider this. Need something to haul a boat and my Jeep WK2 has a 7200lb tow capacity (I'd never tow that much weight though).
I wanted a sequoia bad, then I saw the 50-60K price tag just to pick up one that is a few years old with 30-50K miles and said nope.
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I had one of my insurance clients come in last week with his new Hyundai and brought in the paperwork. Holy FOOK, it was a $46k SANTA FE. You still see those 10-15 year old junky Santa Fes on the road around here and holy chit, what a difference. That said, for now we are Mazda crew, will look at the CX 50 or CX 90 when it comes to replace my wife's car in a few years. Though I would consider a Hyundai Palisade.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
I had one of my insurance clients come in last week with his new Hyundai and brought in the paperwork. Holy FOOK, it was a $46k SANTA FE. You still see those 10-15 year old junky Santa Fes on the road around here and holy chit, what a difference. That said, for now we are Mazda crew, will look at the CX 50 or CX 90 when it comes to replace my wife's car in a few years. Though I would consider a Hyundai Palisade.
I heard the CX9 is a solid car, just don't personally like the design for both interior and exterior. I drove a CX5 as a rental and was massively underwhelmed but I realize that's the poverty version
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
German cars plummet in value because they are extremely expensive to repair outside of warranty. 20k for a new transmission when the car isn't even worth that much. Domestic medium duty and heavy duty vehicles hold their value better than anything that isn't an exotic, or a corvette.

These trucks and SUVs are used for camping/hunting/fishing and construction long after their passenger car life is over. They have heavy duty brakes, axles, transmissions, and low revving simple to repair V8 engines that can run forever. You can pull a short block out of any junk yard and turn it into a race engine for very little $$$.

The couple of Kias and Hyundai's that qualify for Uber black will hold their value fairly well because they get snagged up by the people who want to drive a taxi for a living, but once they are outside of Uber's age range they aren't going to be worth a dime because they will have ridiculous mileage. There is artificial demand for them as a poor man's taxi.
The later gens are holding up there value fairly well actually. I bought a 2017 elantra in 2018 for $21k. Put 100k kms on it and sold it last year for $17.5k.

Also Im not talking about trucks and suburbans. Obvously they hold their value cause the options are limited in that class. Aside from the tundra there isnt much competition.
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Originally Posted By koreannoodles77⏩
The later gens are holding up there value fairly well actually. I bought a 2017 elantra in 2018 for $21k. Put 100k kms on it and sold it last year for $17.5k.

Also Im not talking about trucks and suburbans. Obvously they hold their value cause the options are limited in that class. Aside from the tundra there isnt much competition.
Yeah but a big part of why you got such a good return is because from 2018 to 2022 the used car market demand exploded and inventory got decimated.


Hell I probably could sell my wife's car for what I bought it for 2.5 years later.
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Man I don't even care about resale value personally, I buy vehicles to drive them into the ground. Trading in especially is just another tool these companies are using to get people to spend more $$$ and stay indebted for longer, no thx jefe
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Man I don't even care about resale value personally, I buy vehicles to drive them into the ground. Trading in especially is just another tool these companies are using to get people to spend more $$$ and stay indebted for longer, no thx jefe
I had that philosophy too when I bought my 328i. Thought I was gonna drive that bish into the ground but its hard to know what life will be like 5 years from time of purchase.

That said I'm glad I will be able to sell a 10 year old car with 100K miles for probably 6-8K when I only paid $13,500 for it 4 years ago.
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