I mean they converted all the Indians to Christianity before they stole all their land and exterminated them. Very godly.

umm..no..

Where are the stats for this year?

Where are the stats for this year?

I thought a 30+ yr spread comparison would be efficient enough to see the proof..

Not at all. So many things have happened between the times that you posted.

Not at all. So many things have happened between the times that you posted.

it's actually 40 yrs, and only one variable was changed when we saw the drastic spike. If you are claiming, "so much else has changed"..you need to show that change from 1963 to now

The actual crime rates are lower now than the 60s. He also isn't going back far enough to the 30's. The 50's were a period of relative economic prosperity and high militarization leading to lower crime. Had dick to do with his imaginary friend.

seldom right and wrong again..

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lmfao again he cherry picks a crime spike year. How about the last 2 decades?

Also lol @ number of offenses. Population increased. Do the rate.

You're so stupid.

The Bible tells us to judge..it literally states the same measure you use to judge, you will be judged as well..

Do not judge according to appearance but judge righteous judgment -John 7:24.

There is nothing in the Constitution regarding the separation of church and state. Seperation of Church & State was never in the Constitution. It was in a letter that Jefferson wrote to the Danberry Baptist Church in Connecticut because the church felt the first amendment was not strong enough to protect religious freedom. Jefferson assured them that the Constitution built a wall separating the church & State, meaning the State could not control the Church. It means the exact OPPOSITE of what you & many others misuse it for


In fact, every single state Constitution makes explicit references to God & religion.

I posted up above what happens to society when you remove God. When you take away the forceable punishment of eternal consequences, and teach a child they are nothing but animals, (literally) they will act accordingly..see society now.

BTW, everywhere Christianity has gone it has elevated women, everywhere it has not, they are thought of second class citizens, slightly above dogs.

I mean they converted all the Indians to Christianity before they stole all their land and exterminated them. Very godly.

see that line that states "population growth" within the graph..
let me ask you something..?



yes. yes you are a fukin retard

Dude you’re grasping at straws. Most of the founding fathers where Freemasons and not Christian. This is very well documented. George Washington being the most famous one was one of the only theistic Christians who didn’t believe in god as some sort of basic universal force but in the Christian sense and kept that to himself.

The constitution doesn’t explicitly state that rights are only granted to christian people and it uses the words like “god given” very loosely and passively for this reason. It’s intended to be interpreted that these are the basic human rights of all people divined by the universe and natural law whether you believe in a Christian god or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Whether you like it or not the first amendment applies to everyone and even most religious people agree with this.

As far as indoctrinating children that’s a very different discussion. I think it’s disingenuous you’re comparing the disgusting grooming that’s going on in some super liberal areas propped up by politicians to telling kids that it’s okay to not be religious to prove a point.

I could go as far as to argue the common sense moral that we have today that children can’t consent to anything isn’t even rooted in Christianity. Age of consent isn’t even mentioned anywhere in the Bible to my knowledge and my dad forced me to go to church with him after he became a believer in my teens.

For every picture you show me of a disgusting “godless” degenerate society I can show you one of Iraq or Afghanistan of dead kids with bombs strapped to their chest or beheaded, bride burnings , American soldiers blown to bits with their guts flung everywhere , etc.

Ah yes , religious theocraticies. They’re beautiful aren’t they ? (Not srs)

If it wasn’t for the writings of John Locke the US constitution and DOI wouldn’t have even been written. The British crown was a divine right religious monarchy.

What you’re arguing for is literally what the founding fathers fought against in the first place despite some of their personal beliefs. You’re just interpreting it to fit your narrative.

George Washington doesn’t believe Christianity should be pushed on everyone despite him being a believer so why the hell would you ?

No government body or agency has a “divine” right to tell people how they have to live their lives. That’s literally what the British Crown argued when the 13 colonies where practically their slaves.

I've already absolutely demolished this argument before.

Atheism is absolutely, 100%, without a doubt, dysgenic behavior.

Atheism appeals to ugly people, manlets, and spiritually corrupt demons.

We know for a fact strong men create a healthy and good society and weak men destroy it.

Nothing creates stronger men than religion. Again, proven without a shadow of a doubt by reality. The best MMA fighters, boxers, thaiboxers wrestlers, any and all combat athlete/fighters throughout history have been men of religion. Ugly manlet atheistcels cannot get past this reality.

So do you want a society with strong men to create safe and prosperous civilization? Then you want religion.

Do you want a society filled with weak, limp wristed, spineless, coward, weasel ****g0ts like wincel, lightsarefallen, ironmanlet, kev1972, where it inevitably turns into clown world? NEVER.

Stop debating this and use your eyes and pattern recognition ability. Just LOOK all around you and NOTICE what the average atheist looks like -- short, ugly, weak, dysgenic. Do these ****g0ts look like they give a phukk about the health of society? Fukk no.

That still isn't showing the normalized rates. Is that curve showing population growth per year? What does that have to do with anything? You're comparing numbers rather than rates.

https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/weba...me/crime-trend

Shows a huge decrease in crime from 1985. You can go through and run the numbers and see how it is compared to 1950. Also reminder that long ago, more crimes went unreported and enforcement was lax.

Here's also just homicide rates.



Looks like you've cherry picked a lot, champ.

My argument is for the Christian God, and the values He teaches/instructs. The teachings of Mohammad are very different, and that society reflects that.

Just because people have used Christianity and religion as a way to achieve evil doesn't mean Christianity itself is bad.

So when the Israelites were second class citizens under Pharaoh, did that reflect their society?
What about when the Roman persecuted the followers of Christ?
Illogical and irrational claims.

You're looking at it with the luxury of 21st century eyes.

The Church imposed its will on common people, forced them to believe, scared them, sometimes abused them, while the top Church brass hobnobbed with Kings and played politics.

Imagine not realizing that "Prohibition" was actually a thing..
What an absolute fukin retard you are..

The Israelites were not under a Theocracy during those times..you get that..right?