Wearing some stronger male's name on your back sends out a great message to the ladies.

Yea because surely she never heard of pro athletes until that moment.

i dont see how this is bad

Surely you realize how pathetic it looks to go out in public wearing a jersey even at a sporting event I'd say. Now imagine complaining that you go to a non-sporting event and wonder why women don't talk to you or take you seriously and saying it's the venue or the women, or your height or whatever else.

It bothers me how this garbage generation just thinks they shouldn't have to try anymore. Dress decent, trim your ****ty beard, learn to talk to people, stop using "resting bitch face" as a excuse, be social. Nobody is going to approach you. Especially if you're frowny and tired looking. Your engineer job doesn't matter if you can't have a conversation long enough for them to ask what you do. Your bottom-tier Rolex doesn't matter. Stop thinking New York fashion is relevant to New Mexico. Dress well for your area.

there's nothing pathetic about it, people do it all the time.

Brad Pitt wears a football jersey is getting the girl.

You retards are so desperate to avoid acknowledging the obvious truths. She doesnt care if you wear a jersey. She cares if you have a good face, money, height and a big dink

I'm like 25% with you here and 75% out on this.

Going to classy bars during the day to meet sloots on lunch break is a great idea. I am going to start doing that once my diet ends in July, very srs.

But yeah... I don't go to this bar with the slightest intention of getting laid. I can't remember seeing another person under 30 in there, and I don't think I've ever seen any single woman under grandma age.

I go watch the draft because I'm really fukking into it. I've been watching college player tape all spring, I fukkin write scouting reports on other forums... it's like a weird hobby. This place has good food and their regulars are all the footballmaxxers I know IRL, so it makes sense to hang out there for it.

I only brought that sports bar up to contrast how old people seem to be much more open and social when they're out drinking. I was there that night for the draft, but I'll go there 1x-2x a month and it's always the same way. Boomers living out their real-life Cheers - a lot of the regulars even call it that. Places like that don't exist for young people. It's like a culture that they've lost.

How does tailored Hawaiian shirts and Sperrys sound? That's how I usually dress in coastal SoCal, when the weather cooperates (which it hasn't for months and that's been mega fukkin ghey).

Safety razor shave daily crew. Best part of my morning, srs.

Yes it's completely pathetic. Brad Pitt and Leo are complete rare exceptions where everybody already knows who the fk they are. They're not normal people. Women want to fk them just to say they did or bc they're star struck. Reality check is obviously that for 99.9% of men nobody knows who the fk you are. Therefore don't go out dressed in a stupid jersey and expect to be taken seriously.

I didnt say brad pitt because he's famous, I said him because of how he looks. If brad pitt looked like that but wasnt famous, you think he'd have any trouble dating?

You think gorgeous blonde chad has any issues whatsoever?

you're an idiot

It comes down to looks. If she's attracted she doesnt care.

Mind you, we're talking about wearing a jersey in a sports bar. I'm not saying just randomly doing that, although I see that too and nobody cares.

The only time Hawaiian shirts are appropriate are in Hawaii, on vacation. Otherwise, it just says you're lazy and have no ambition. You're not Magnum PI. Stop dressing like it.

I dunno if I'd go this harsh, but wearing *only* Hawaiian shirts does sound like a dorky guy move, and I feel like they're hard to pull off anyway (especially in day-to-day life and not on a beach).

Gorgeous blonde chad is instantly taken less seriously than the guy 1 point below him on the looks scale if he wears that. And if he's dumb enough to wear that out in public then he's probably dropping another point once he starts talking.

I don't know what to tell you. I'm not a 10/10. I'm about a 7 who looks 10 years younger than I am, and have no agenda when I go out and am pretty normal and friendly with strangers. I have girls come sit next to me that I'll strike up something to say after about 15 minutes or so and we flirt around for an hour or 2 and you can get a number if you ask. If nobody comes and sits next to you well then it's just not your day I guess or wrong crowd at the wrong time. Maybe next time. Like I said go to your grocery store from there. Go to a food festival. Random strangers meet each other all the time. Everybody's mom and dad both had no clue who the fk each other were until the day fate happened or one of them had the guts to make a move. Girls make the move and often times guys are too stupid to realize it.

OP, real talk: Women don't want to meet randoms anymore.


In the past, women would be okay with meeting random dudes at clubs and bars, but not anymore. It's now all social media.


At this point, I'd consider hopping on TRT and getting turbo shredded. Then I'd looksmaxx my face and get professional photos for my insta. And then I'd starting doing idiotic tiktok thirst videos.


I don't see any way to meet women these days without distinguishing yourself on social media.

Yea you have no idea what its like being ugly. 'Just show up and talk to people bro'.

everybodys mom and dad met before dating apps and social media.

Its completely different now you idiot

Dumb post. Fashion obviously isn't *the* problem, but OP should at least not shoot himself in the foot with it, and most everyone has room for improvement.

I always hated this tbh

When you're tall you just exist and women flock to you srs

My one friend is 6'4, we just stand together and chicks talk to us

I wouldn't go to a bar solely to try and meet a girl unless your only goal is s3x and you dgaf if you get rejected.

Go with the intention of having a good time and being social. Choose where you go wisely, even where you sit while you're there, be friendly to the staff and anyone around you.

I like karaoke but it's more of a dive bar scene and there are times where there's simply not one woman I'm interested in at the bar that night.

If you meet a girl at a bar, it's more likely than not she enjoys going out and isn't a homebody so if that's not what you want then don't look for women at bars to begin with.

Honestly the best advice (and worst advice at the same time) is just meet somebody that you work with or network with. That's where somebody can be around you 8 hours a day and figure out if they like you instantly, or you grow on them, and the odds of either of you working there the next 5 years or more is slim to none. Maybe a chick you work with doesn't date co-workers but has a friend that she shows you that thinks you would be great with. That or through friends. Maybe they went to high school with or worked with some chick who wasn't into them, but you're out with a few of these friends and run into this girl and she still doesn't like your friend but finds you cute enough. Who knows. Maybe she has a midget fetish and has been dreaming of the day her ex-coworker was out with a guy like BBMG (I kid I kid).

Anything is better than swiping all day saying "pick me, pick me please" like idiots on dating apps.

Last I check at least 50% plus of couples are still meeting outside of dating apps and social media you pathetic self-defeated loser. The day a short pretty girl who's 4'8 comes along and sits next to you at the bar dreaming of a 5'2 guy because he's not too tall, you'll probably just sit there self defeated, expecting the worse, grumpy looking, wearing a football jersey and not say anything or anything that would make her want to flirt back with you.

Eh, this is kind of nonsense too but its from a good place.

I'm at a place in life where a bar isnt a good time to me anymore. been there, done that. The ONLY reason I would go is for women if I still had any hope of that(I know you acknowledge this somewhat).

my point is, I think its ok to do things just to get women, because if you didnt many of us never would. If I just did what I truly wanted to do I would just be with my friends and never bother with this chit.

The thing with bars is that most people are in groups already and you would need great confidence and charisma not only to approach a group and talk but not seem weird or make it awkward. Good luck finding a women byherself

The dating apps are the only option for many of us, because theres no where else women are really receptive unless you're chad/tyrone. You need the numbers game nowadays, and the apps are the only way to play that game

I used to intern at this sports radio company years back. The Bert Show is lead by this 5'4 midget with a gigantic nose and not by any stretch a good looking dude. I saw him all the time and he's pathetically short, and not good looking at all. Having a radio show does nothing for you if you go around thinking your short and ugly and no woman wants you. His attitude was that he's pretty proud of himself no matter how short or ugly. This is his wife.

Came in expecting an entirely different thread but it just goes to show the difference in mindset when going into social situations. There have been very few times in the past year I go to the bar and don't meet sloots but my bars sound a bit better. You have to find the bars that girls tend to frequent...even better if it's one that's near a bar, bresstaurant, or strip club cause most girls that work in the industry love to drink and get attention. Sounds like OP went to buffalo wild wings bar section at 9pm on a Wednesday lmao

It's not chitty in that it's hard to meet women it's just chitty as in the quality of women you'll find. Bars are a bit better than clubs but at the end of the day they're going for attention & being a slut so good luck finding a girl that won't make you crazy or even more depressed. It's not hard though either become a regular at a local bar or hit up the best college/party bars Thurs-Sat. I just go in to watch games, keep things light w bartenders or people around me and eventually girls come sit near me especially when it starts filling up and there aren't many seats left. You have to stay pretty late though like 11p-2a aka demon time when girls start getting drunk and being more forward. Or if the bar is degen enough they'll start coming in at 9p. Either way you have to go in with the intention of having a good time whether you meet a girl or not.

All this stuff about "girls don't want to be talked to" and "can't go by myself" is laughable for a bar. Everyone's drunk and it's the last place you can really walk up to strangers and impose your will socially. Plenty of people go to bars alone for a drink or two so you've already overcome that obstacle. Girls in groups of 2-4 are even easier even if they go to "stick to their friends". Just approach and jestermaxx confidently. Obviously at a yuppie bar the social rules are a bit different but sports bars just lol @ not approaching bar girls.I was a regular at a bar and this is true for the most part. Not so much that they are soulless but they do tend to be a bit directionless especially the same people you see 3+times a week. Either that or they're escaping some serious problems. They're good people who just decide to drink away their problems. Then again I could just be justifying it since I am basically a barcel. Either way it's bad and people like OP bitching about not getting women don't realize that it could be worse. As in they could be living a lifestyle of being drunk or hungover 4x+ a week. Being social is overrated and I'd probably trade it back for watching sports or something all alone on a saturday srs

There's always ways. If you hear a group of girls speaking a foreign language near you walk up and say hey and that you were wondering what language they're speaking (even if it's obvious). I did that once and one of them came over and sat next to me to order a drink and chatted for 15 minutes or so.

Fukin lol

Having turned the hospital I used to work at into my own personal playground, I can truly see that the OP is dealing with pleb problems.

I understand where you're coming from. Thing is if you meet a woman at a bar and you hate going to bars and you start to date and she wants you to come out to a bar to meet her friends et al, now you have some dissimilar interests.
& bars are no doubt the most natural/accepted place to meet other singles IRL.

Other than bars and apps, you could try getting comfortable approaching in places like grocery stores, malls, coffee shops, concerts/sports games. Join types of sports/social clubs where you have a genuine interest in the activity. Chit chat with friends and coworkers and let them know if they have any single friends you're down to be setup.
I haven't had any experience with speed dating or matchmakers but those are options as well.

man your average guys returns randomly approaching in settings that arent specifically for dating is going to be abysmal.

I think some of you are a bit divorced from reality about this.

The best thing an average guy can do is specific things where women are looking, basically apps/bars/clubs. Other than that, pray you just randomly bump into someone somewhere by chance like a store but its unlikely.

there's a reason for that stat that 63% of men are single.