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If you have a high bodyfat (20%+) like the guys you are discussing. Yeah, you won't look good. But as a natty its pretty much impossible to over-develop upper body muscles. Especially if you stay lean. IE visible abs at all times. And chest sticks out further then stomach.
As far as why the Greek statues didn't have a large chest. Its because they hadn't figured out how to properly train the pecs at that time.
They were also into micro-cocks. Do you think a 1-2" cock is ideal too?
https://fitnessvolt.com/grecian-ideal-calculator/
As far as why the Greek statues didn't have a large chest. Its because they hadn't figured out how to properly train the pecs at that time.
They were also into micro-cocks. Do you think a 1-2" cock is ideal too?
Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
I agree.Chase the golden ratio, everything else is good balling.
You can get your entire body's perfect muscle measurements by measuring your wrist. Look it up. Everything stems from that.
You can get your entire body's perfect muscle measurements by measuring your wrist. Look it up. Everything stems from that.
https://fitnessvolt.com/grecian-ideal-calculator/
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Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
Chang coming correct about big forearms das it maneI promise you when women say they love a man's arms, they are 99% of the time talking about forearms and not biceps. It's just that sloots don't know anything about anatomy so they refer to it as arms when they really mean forearms.
Well defined and big muscular forearms says you are a manly man who does and get chit done with his "hands". Big beefy biceps tells the woman you are a gymrat who bangs out countless sets of curls to increase the size of what is arguably one of the most useless muscle there is.
Well defined and big muscular forearms says you are a manly man who does and get chit done with his "hands". Big beefy biceps tells the woman you are a gymrat who bangs out countless sets of curls to increase the size of what is arguably one of the most useless muscle there is.
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Brutal if true
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Gargantuan if factual.
05-09-2023, 01:26 PM
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Can confirm, arms, shoulders, chest should be primary focus for natties
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05-09-2023, 01:50 PM
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Some of just a chit shoulders there isn't anything we can do
05-09-2023, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
Lol genuinely thanks for the admiration 😂Get out of my thread, you lying juice monkey.
Try going gym and even taking your own advice you might accomplish something close.
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05-09-2023, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By FoulSmell⏩
Exactly that.Homo OP needs to spend less time checking out other dudes at the gym, and work on himself.
Both both his physique and absolute loser attitude. OP could stfu, debate minimalist workouts or simply ask advice but nope, does a another Cope thread 😂.
Here for you to help you OP buddy if you ever stop being mad.
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Originally Posted By Broady78⏩
what kinda retarded throwaway comment is this?A guy that kicks back and evaluates others physiques...ain't doing what he should while at the gym ..stop blowing these comments outta yo azz...
"stop judging others and work out, bro"
what, am I supposed to be lifting 24/7? wtf kinda dumbass logic is this? ****** it takes me 1-1.5hs to work out. For the rest of the 23 hours I have left during the day I'm judging a mother fukker, best belie' dat. And it wasn't even like I went to the gym, talked to the sloot behind the counter, told her I wanted to sign up, wasted 30 minutes doing paperwork, just so I can tell her, "Yesssss, now can I go in to look at all these trash fizeek, ma'am?"
retard, I was judging these trash fizeeks as I went from machines to machines, stations to stations, and walking back to the locker room.
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Originally Posted By TheBeeLeaf⏩
this delusional time traveling juice monkey thinks it's still 1995 lmao.Lol genuinely thanks for the admiration
Try going gym and even taking your own advice you might accomplish something close.
Try going gym and even taking your own advice you might accomplish something close.
The saddest people in 2023 are those who still lie about there dat dere status.
05-09-2023, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted By TheBeeLeaf⏩
how is it possible that your take away from this thread is that I don't lift, you retarded juice monkey? Where in the thread did you get that impression?Exactly that.
Both both his physique and absolute loser attitude. OP could stfu, debate minimalist workouts or simply ask advice but nope, does a another Cope thread ������.
Here for you to help you OP buddy if you ever stop being mad.
Both both his physique and absolute loser attitude. OP could stfu, debate minimalist workouts or simply ask advice but nope, does a another Cope thread ������.
Here for you to help you OP buddy if you ever stop being mad.
I literally advocate for Olympic lifts, calisthenics, dumbbells, rack pulls, military press, etc., you retarded juice monkey. Is dat dere blocking the blood circulation to your brain?
"go lift" in a thread where OP literally says to lift lulz.
05-09-2023, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
You mad?what kinda retarded throwaway comment is this?
"stop judging others and work out, bro"
what, am I supposed to be lifting 24/7? wtf kinda dumbass logic is this? ****** it takes me 1-1.5hs to work out. For the rest of the 23 hours I have left during the day I'm judging a mother fukker, best belie' dat. And it wasn't even like I went to the gym, talked to the sloot behind the counter, told her I wanted to sign up, wasted 30 minutes doing paperwork, just so I can tell her, "Yesssss, now can I go in to look at all these trash fizeek, ma'am?"
retard, I was judging these trash fizeeks as I went from machines to machines, stations to stations, and walking back to the locker room.
"stop judging others and work out, bro"
what, am I supposed to be lifting 24/7? wtf kinda dumbass logic is this? ****** it takes me 1-1.5hs to work out. For the rest of the 23 hours I have left during the day I'm judging a mother fukker, best belie' dat. And it wasn't even like I went to the gym, talked to the sloot behind the counter, told her I wanted to sign up, wasted 30 minutes doing paperwork, just so I can tell her, "Yesssss, now can I go in to look at all these trash fizeek, ma'am?"
retard, I was judging these trash fizeeks as I went from machines to machines, stations to stations, and walking back to the locker room.
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Originally Posted By Broady78⏩
yes, I am angry. You came into this perfectly good thread to post your retarded female tiktok take.You mad?
"stop judging people live laugh love" what are you, a fkn female?
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Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
Watch out y'all....Ladyboy is ANGRY ....yes, I am angry. You came into this perfectly good thread to post your retarded female tiktok take.
"stop judging people live laugh love" what are you, a fkn female?
"stop judging people live laugh love" what are you, a fkn female?
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
Of courseYou too my brotha, hope you been doing good out here

I just turned 47 a few days ago and I feel great...
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Well op, as you know there are apartment gyms,cross fit gyms, fitness gyms, powerlifting gyms, bodybuilding gyms with competitors and gyms with a a blend of all.
People have different goals and who are we...... to assume anything.
live and let live.
As long as you have huge calves traps and forearms, who cares?
People have different goals and who are we...... to assume anything.
live and let live.
As long as you have huge calves traps and forearms, who cares?
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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Originally Posted By Broady78⏩
why are you judging me for judging others, retard? why aren't you out there ceo10/day and lifting 24/7 7 days a week, retard? WHy do you have an opinion on anything, just mindlessly focus on masturbatory self improvement bro, just stop judging anything and anyone bro. Stop having opinions on anything bro, if you have an opinion on anything at all it means you aren't lifting bro, and if yuo aren't lifting 24/7 do you really even lift bro?Watch out y'all....Ladyboy is ANGRY ....
that's you right now. And you are retarded.
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Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
how is it possible that your take away from this thread is that I don't lift, you retarded juice monkey? Where in the thread did you get that impression?
I literally advocate for Olympic lifts, calisthenics, dumbbells, rack pulls, military press, etc., you retarded juice monkey. Is dat dere blocking the blood circulation to your brain?
"go lift" in a thread where OP literally says to lift lulz.
I literally advocate for Olympic lifts, calisthenics, dumbbells, rack pulls, military press, etc., you retarded juice monkey. Is dat dere blocking the blood circulation to your brain?
"go lift" in a thread where OP literally says to lift lulz.
Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
lol I agree, but buddy I’m not in the juice, not on sarms, never messed with my hormones. Just know how to eat, train, and consistently lived a healthy lifestyle for a decade. The results are pretty good as you can see. You should try it, maxed out my natty muscle which is easy to maintain and further aesthetics are just a side effect of health maxxxing.this delusional time traveling juice monkey thinks it's still 1995 lmao.
The saddest people in 2023 are those who still lie about there dat dere status.
The saddest people in 2023 are those who still lie about there dat dere status.
Stats just for you: 5’9 @ 77kg, hover around 12-16%. No change in eating habit apart from upping my intake on root veggies as I Upped cardio recently, feels way more important these days, so I’ll likely end up staying closer to 12-14%.
I take away you don’t actually lift in the thread from your posts😂. You can advocate all you want but You also have no idea what you’re talking about, no examples, No pic of yourself, just being all mad and in your imagination making up.
“Thinks it’s 1995, blah blah”, go test your opinion and that very gym you’re taking about see how no one will even register anything you say as an insult, that’s if anyone would care enough to take their headphones out for you, as you’re clearly an insecure nothing of no importance to have the biatch thoughts you have.
Don’t be mad.
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05-09-2023, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
deadthe barbell squat is quite possibly the biggest jew lift of them all. It does absolutely none of what it advertises, and is actually terrible for you.
brb it boosts your test. no it doesn't.
brb it makes you athletic. not true
brb it makes you stronger overall. that's cap.
brb it makes you jump higher. no, strong jumpers make good squatters. NOT the other way around.
what it actually does:
fries your fkn cns
you're too sore to ever be athletic
can't even take a fkn chit
destroys your recovery so you can't even do any other lifts efficiently
gives you big thicc thunder thighs so that black guys mistaken you for a tranny and cat call you.
don't fall for the mRNA squat.
Mark Jewippetoe JEWMAD 5x5 program can fukk right off.
brb it boosts your test. no it doesn't.
brb it makes you athletic. not true
brb it makes you stronger overall. that's cap.
brb it makes you jump higher. no, strong jumpers make good squatters. NOT the other way around.
what it actually does:
fries your fkn cns
you're too sore to ever be athletic
can't even take a fkn chit
destroys your recovery so you can't even do any other lifts efficiently
gives you big thicc thunder thighs so that black guys mistaken you for a tranny and cat call you.
don't fall for the mRNA squat.
Mark Jewippetoe JEWMAD 5x5 program can fukk right off.
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Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
Literally the most retarded thing Ive heard in Yrs...over emphasis on Chest and arms. ded fkn srs.
Just joined a new gym since cohen19 shut down. Quite a big gym, old school machines, tons of actual lifters. Was mind blown.
But as I walked around and observed all these actual hardcore lifters, I couldn't help but noticed how trash their aesthetic were. Every dude was walking around with that round, soft, muscular look. You know what I'm talking about. That typical gym rat broscience "look".
way over developed arms with massive fatceps, big puffy chest that with no definition/striation, ZERO V Taper, 15-20% bodyfat, soft, doughy and protruding bellies. Yes, they lift. You can tell they lift. But they are unaesthetic as fukk.
Shoulders + traps + upper back + pull ups + posterior chain that focus on glute heavy instead of quad heavy + lifting with high intensity + not obsessing about "getting in your calories" will 100% of the time lead to natty aesthetic. Chang GUARANTEES this.
bench press, curls, squats, tri pushdowns, these are all jew lifts. They destroy aesthetic because if these muscles get big, they throw off your golden ratio completely. Over developing these muscles make you look feminine instead of masculine. No woman likes a man whose chest looks bigger than her in a fkn shirt, bro. Lemme squeeze dem titties, bro.
Just joined a new gym since cohen19 shut down. Quite a big gym, old school machines, tons of actual lifters. Was mind blown.
But as I walked around and observed all these actual hardcore lifters, I couldn't help but noticed how trash their aesthetic were. Every dude was walking around with that round, soft, muscular look. You know what I'm talking about. That typical gym rat broscience "look".
way over developed arms with massive fatceps, big puffy chest that with no definition/striation, ZERO V Taper, 15-20% bodyfat, soft, doughy and protruding bellies. Yes, they lift. You can tell they lift. But they are unaesthetic as fukk.
Shoulders + traps + upper back + pull ups + posterior chain that focus on glute heavy instead of quad heavy + lifting with high intensity + not obsessing about "getting in your calories" will 100% of the time lead to natty aesthetic. Chang GUARANTEES this.
bench press, curls, squats, tri pushdowns, these are all jew lifts. They destroy aesthetic because if these muscles get big, they throw off your golden ratio completely. Over developing these muscles make you look feminine instead of masculine. No woman likes a man whose chest looks bigger than her in a fkn shirt, bro. Lemme squeeze dem titties, bro.
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Originally Posted By TheBeeLeaf⏩
more rambling from a juice'd out monkey.lol I agree, but buddy I’m not in the juice, not on sarms, never messed with my hormones. Just know how to eat, train, and consistently lived a healthy lifestyle for a decade. The results are pretty good as you can see. You should try it, maxed out my natty muscle which is easy to maintain and further aesthetics are just a side effect of health maxxxing.
Stats just for you: 5’9 @ 77kg, hover around 12-16%. No change in eating habit apart from upping my intake on root veggies as I Upped cardio recently, feels way more important these days, so I’ll likely end up staying closer to 12-14%.
I take away you don’t actually lift in the thread from your posts. You can advocate all you want but You also have no idea what you’re talking about, no examples, No pic of yourself, just being all mad and in your imagination making up.
“Thinks it’s 1995, blah blah”, go test your opinion and that very gym you’re taking about see how no one will even register anything you say as an insult, that’s if anyone would care enough to take their headphones out for you, as you’re clearly an insecure nothing of no importance to have the biatch thoughts you have.
Don’t be mad.
Stats just for you: 5’9 @ 77kg, hover around 12-16%. No change in eating habit apart from upping my intake on root veggies as I Upped cardio recently, feels way more important these days, so I’ll likely end up staying closer to 12-14%.
I take away you don’t actually lift in the thread from your posts. You can advocate all you want but You also have no idea what you’re talking about, no examples, No pic of yourself, just being all mad and in your imagination making up.
“Thinks it’s 1995, blah blah”, go test your opinion and that very gym you’re taking about see how no one will even register anything you say as an insult, that’s if anyone would care enough to take their headphones out for you, as you’re clearly an insecure nothing of no importance to have the biatch thoughts you have.
Don’t be mad.
I don't lift, but you've been the one in this thread not knowing wtf you're talking about. doesn't know vert from box jump, doesn't understand grip strength, thinks heavy pulls works the arms. I don't lift, and yet I'm the one who corrected you on all that miss info. Pls stfu.
And if you don't want people thinking you're a juice monkey, then perhaps don't fraud with a fake avatar. Nobody looks at that physique thinks you're natty. Nobody also thinks that avi is 77kg.
time traveling, avi frauding, fake natty status, doesn't know chit about lifting mechanic and the muscle involved, tried to fraud his mythical 65 inch vert, bro you've just been an overall phegget in this thread. lies after lies after lies.
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Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
LMAO first I dont give 2 fuchs what you think, commentary from fools doesnt interest me, 2nd 77kg is a weak 169.4 and I am 190.,and YES I am lifetime clean & it doesnt matter whether you believe it or not I've Never failed a drug test, 3rd My knowledge and background blows yours out of the water, 4th your post is still ignorant. Have a Nice daymore rambling from a juice'd out monkey.
I don't lift, but you've been the one in this thread not knowing wtf you're talking about. doesn't know vert from box jump, doesn't understand grip strength, thinks heavy pulls works the arms. I don't lift, and yet I'm the one who corrected you on all that miss info. Pls stfu.
And if you don't want people thinking you're a juice monkey, then perhaps don't fraud with a fake avatar. Nobody looks at that physique thinks you're natty. Nobody also thinks that avi is 77kg.
time traveling, avi frauding, fake natty status, doesn't know chit about lifting mechanic and the muscle involved, tried to fraud his mythical 65 inch vert, bro you've just been an overall phegget in this thread. lies after lies after lies.
I don't lift, but you've been the one in this thread not knowing wtf you're talking about. doesn't know vert from box jump, doesn't understand grip strength, thinks heavy pulls works the arms. I don't lift, and yet I'm the one who corrected you on all that miss info. Pls stfu.
And if you don't want people thinking you're a juice monkey, then perhaps don't fraud with a fake avatar. Nobody looks at that physique thinks you're natty. Nobody also thinks that avi is 77kg.
time traveling, avi frauding, fake natty status, doesn't know chit about lifting mechanic and the muscle involved, tried to fraud his mythical 65 inch vert, bro you've just been an overall phegget in this thread. lies after lies after lies.
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Originally Posted By charlievanriper⏩
did you forget to log out of your other account or some chit? Because that post was directed at that fake natty TheBeeLeaf, you retarded schizo.LMAO first I dont give 2 fuchs what you think, commentary from fools doesnt interest me, 2nd 77kg is a weak 169.4 and I am 190.,and YES I am lifetime clean & it doesnt matter whether you believe it or not I've Never failed a drug test, 3rd My knowledge and background blows yours out of the water, 4th your post is still ignorant. Have a Nice day
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
If he wants us to believe his fake natty status, he should perhaps not used that blatantly juice'd out physique avatar he's frauding with.Absolute bullchit.
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1.) Shoulders... creates the masculine outline that makes the women moist.
2.) Arms
3.) Upper Chest for that thic look (a too developed lower chest just gives the outline of man-boobs)
4.) Back (but having wide shoulders gives the appearance of a better v-taper)
2.) Arms
3.) Upper Chest for that thic look (a too developed lower chest just gives the outline of man-boobs)
4.) Back (but having wide shoulders gives the appearance of a better v-taper)
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Post an example of this peak natty aesthetic physique you are referring to
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