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post 1685402143 06-27-2023, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By sword_
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Originally Posted By katya422
Luc1fer.
Oh lmao well he's probably deeply analytical and an over thinker like me

Probably in the wrong locality too (SF) for what he wants.
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post 1685402453 06-27-2023, 10:43 AM
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therapists are all women

therapy makes men beta and do nothing about what they fail at

pumps money into the hands of women
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Originally Posted By katya422
IME there is some truth to this. Over my life I've had both male and female therapists. The first ones were in my teens [parent's divorce] and second ones my own stuff.

I would say that the women were more validating and less confrontational than the men. The last male therapist who I worked with very briefly was very action oriented. I'm not sure how helpful it was as far as learning anything, but there was a definite framework or checklist feel.

- last time we talked about this
- how did that go/how is that going
- what's happening now
- here is the plan until we check in again

And 90% of the time his feedback was what I already had in mind myself. But I guess it was nice to talk to someone and to have a little structure.




Highly believable. Suppose you are aware how weak the evidence is supporting SSRIs.
I'm actually not. Thanks for giving me a rabbit hole to dive down.
Originally Posted By katya422
Right? How nuts is it that this practice has continued for so long and that some states are seeking to deeply entrench it into their legal framework? Threatening to take children from their parents if the parents don't affirm the child's chosen gender? It's literal insanity IMO...psychotic loss of contact with the reality of the damage being done to the children.
There was a quote that stuck out to me about this. "The puberty blockers were intended as a pause button to give confused teenagers time to figure things out. They've ended up becoming a start button for a medical transition."

Blockers are essentially as good as a transition, and CA is removing every roadblock they can for starting teenagers on blockers. It's pretty messed up stuff.
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post 1685403063 06-27-2023, 10:54 AM
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Just another thing for women and left leaning dudes to condescend to men about.

Also LOL when people say "Men should express themselves!" Why, so you can have dirt on them for thinking outside the hive-mind? "Express yourself" is just ratting on yourself in 2023, let me express these balls into your mouth.
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Therapy is the most retarded chit
BRB pay 200 an hour to listen to some pleb who was too dumb for med school.
They don’t care about you only your money.
post 1685403503 06-27-2023, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By FA*******
I'm actually not. Thanks for giving me a rabbit hole to dive down.



There was a quote that stuck out to me about this. "The puberty blockers were intended as a pause button to give confused teenagers time to figure things out. They've ended up becoming a start button for a medical transition."

Blockers are essentially as good as a transition, and CA is removing every roadblock they can for starting teenagers on blockers. It's pretty messed up stuff.
IIRC they showed only the slightest edge over placebos.

And, yes, insanity is the only way I can describe the pro-child castration movement. Because that is what is happening when you strip away the crazy talk. You are taking away functioning sexual organs when there is no functional replacement possible + administering hormones that do physiological damage, e.g. rapid bone loss for female to male trans caused by hormone manipulation. Physically damaging small humans with the belief that this will make them happier vs. helping said small humans adjust to the bodies that they are in fact living inside of.

ETA:

For you...

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post 1685403623 06-27-2023, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By sword_
I see this as a modern phenomenon and it's infuriating to me. They either like to spend money or believe it's an end all be all silver bullet to solve interpersonal issues.
find a male therapist... Talking to someone helps, close male relationships vs close female relationships are nothing alike. Men will go visit their bros 2 days before suicide and be like "sup boys life is good" then hang from their basement two days later. Women will go over and cry and vent and talk and bond with their girlfriends over the simplest ****. Men are socially retarded and it kills too many of us because of retarded beliefs and forced stoicism. I have like 2 guy friends who arent awkward as **** if we were to talk about feelings and ****.
Originally Posted By sword_
Why don't I ever hear them encourage men to maintain their long term friendships, keep in touch with their family, find a fulfilling hobby, volunteer, or go to church?
lol they do, this is a silly argument based on ****ty women you talk to or whatever youtube silo youre in
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post 1685404033 06-27-2023, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot
Just lol. It goes with what I and others have said that therapists are there to affirm female nature. She wants you to go to therapy because to her "therapy" is "a professional will tell you I'm right"
This was exactly the case with my ex (luckily, she was wrong in my case, as the opposite actually happened). When she started to realize the therapist wasn't telling me what she wanted me to be told, she got mad and said she needed to go see the same therapist in order to correct the record.
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A therapy session is what, $200?

Spend that money on a rub-n-tug and you'll feel way better
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because women have lost their fuking minds
post 1685405853 06-27-2023, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By koreannoodles77
A therapy session is what, $200?

Spend that money on a rub-n-tug and you'll feel way better
I send my lady $40 on Paypal per appointment. Probably no need for me to keep going since my "problem" was essentially already solved (and she was helpful in making that happen), but for $40 I don't mind going and just chatting while I finish extricating myself for the chitty situation I was in.
post 1685405943 06-27-2023, 11:42 AM
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post 1685406083 06-27-2023, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
because women have lost their fuking minds
Just women?




Where have you been the last 3 years?
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post 1685406213 06-27-2023, 11:47 AM
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i've had 2 gals give me a counseling ultimatum lmao

can u imagine being that big of a cuck lol
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My girl is a therapist... so she automatically will resort to this when she sees any sort of issues that someone faces. I get it tho, you are able to receive the proper skills that you normally might not in your every day life or even by loved ones around you

Men are pretty terrible at letting their emotions out, but also not very good at going to others for help or having the skills in place to navigate tougher times other than "just get over it"
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I can tell from reading the various posts that 95% of miscers have a woefully simplisitic understanding of what constitutes therapy.

Having said that, I do think that a decent and talented therapist is very, very rare thing, thus an awful lot of therapy out there will be kinda ****.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08
My girl is a therapist... so she automatically will resort to this when she sees any sort of issues that someone faces. I get it tho, you are able to receive the proper skills that you normally might not in your every day life or even by loved ones around you

Men are pretty terrible at letting their emotions out, but also not very good at going to others for help or having the skills in place to navigate tougher times other than "just get over it"
I don't think therapy is bad and I understand the value of it. I just find it used as a catchall for problems we normally face in life. I read philosophy and self-help books from psychologists and ultimately I believe it has helped me build the tools I need to deal with problems I encounter in life. Then again I'm generally emotionally healthy and able to express my emotions unlike some men so YMMV.
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Originally Posted By bradlehman
I send my lady $40 on Paypal per appointment. Probably no need for me to keep going since my "problem" was essentially already solved (and she was helpful in making that happen), but for $40 I don't mind going and just chatting while I finish extricating myself for the chitty situation I was in.
If it works for you then go for it. Didn't do anything for me, often times it make me feel worse

Decided to go back to drinking and its been smooth sailing ever since
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Originally Posted By AWSbruh
Idk but therapy doesn’t work, complete scam. Full of woman librals lmaoo
Women like therapy because the therapist tells them what they wanna hear nothings your fault you’re the victim you have mental illness. Load of horse****
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Barrier to entry as a therapist is super low and is an attractive job to post-kids women who just want to stay at home all day and never actually deal with the real world with deadlines, performance targets, working in teams etc.

My sister recruits them and many are wet blankets on a good day or at worst a big fish in a pond of one that they create because they are divorced from actual reality. 80% of them are overweight too, if you can't even manage to put the cake fork down what hope do you have a helping anyone else?
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Originally Posted By WishIWasJawBrah
Best advice any men can get: Don't take advice from women
This. Women are legitimately stupid. You can sell a woman anything.
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JFL at therapy. Naturally minimize such dependencies, but internal rationalization & discussion is far more useful for men. It usually best revolves around this and about 2 or 3 of your boyos



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Because women love talking about their feelings. In therapy, not only do they get to do that, but they also get to make you talk about your feelings.
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Originally Posted By sword_
I don't think therapy is bad and I understand the value of it. I just find it used as a catchall for problems we normally face in life. I read philosophy and self-help books from psychologists and ultimately I believe it has helped me build the tools I need to deal with problems I encounter in life. Then again I'm generally emotionally healthy and able to express my emotions unlike some men so YMMV.
You'd be surprised how emotionally unhealthy people, particularly men are. I think people like you and I aren't in that boat so therapy feels like a waste

My partner wasn't on the dating market long at all before I met her, but she would tell me a couple of stories of guys who were on polar opposites of the spectrum where they would get drunk then cry to her about problems, or go through something and completely shut down.

There's a lot of dudes out there with some issues that they try and mask
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Originally Posted By katya422
Just women?




Where have you been the last 3 years?
Outside of Califonia?
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Originally Posted By zknarc
Barrier to entry as a therapist is super low and is an attractive job to post-kids women who just want to stay at home all day and never actually deal with the real world with deadlines, performance targets, working in teams etc.
Maybe in the UK. Here you at the very least need a two year college diploma, and if you want to be able to work in a clinical setting or anything legit you have to have a Bachelor's of Social Work or another therapy oriented degree. Then apply for licensing which is a lot of hoops to jump through. I'm under supervision for at least two years as a candidate so I have to report all my stuff to someone with more experience and better credentials kind of like an interning doctor.

There's lots of people who are "life coaches" that claim they do therapy but they're just garbage.
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot
Im not 100% sure on this but ive always been under the impression female therapists tend to be more affirming rather than objective with therapy. I think it's one of the reasons a lot of modern women have that "I'm not a bitch-- I'm just opinionated!" kind of mentality about their own shortcomings. Female therapists tell them what the patient wants to hear rather than what they need to hear because you shouldn't invalidate someone. Male therapists are more focused on results even if it's a bitter pill to swallow for the patient
This doesn't ring true.

The goal of most therapists will not be to "validate" their patients, but rather to create a climate in which they feel fully "received".

As an aside: A big problem in the earliest stages of therapy is the patient's defensiveness. Most people don't attend therapy especially willingly, and the ones that do often have massive doubts about it. The therapist has no leverage if the patient is sitting there thinking, "lol this therapy stuff is complete horse chit, what a joke". So, the therapist's first task is getting the patient to lower his guard, so to speak.
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