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post 1687279903 07-27-2023, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
I'm not defending hunter, I'm discussing rights. Why can a judge tell a guy charged with firearms and taxes not to drink alcohol?

I'll concede telling a firearm charged guy not to have firearms may be best for the public but he's still currently innocent. Why are you OK with a judge telling a currently innocent guy to get a job and he can't drink?



I asked your opinion.

You're OK with judges telling innocent people what they can and cannot do, even when unrelated to the case?
im assuming he is on bail, and he can be a part of bail restrictions.
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Originally Posted By Zelensky⏩
It is pretty funny how blatantly corrupt they are, but we all know neither Biden nor the lawyers are going to be punished for it in any way lmao

Hope this entire thing blows up.
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extremely fishy
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I think everyone needs to recognize that, if you did what Hunter did, the DOJ would never offer you such a deal. The fact that democrats want to act like there isn’t a 2-tiered justice system is laughable.
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You guys have got to read this thread in full:




Basically the immunity deal was thrown in the Diversion agreement because the Diversion agreement doesn't need to be signed off by the the judge. It was a total hoodwink move and the judge totally caught onto their bullshіt.











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this is unreal .. these lawyers and the DOJ

hard to believe it
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post 1687281613 07-27-2023, 07:23 AM
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Here is the full transcript from the hearing:


https://media.marcopolousa.org/pdf/2...transcript.pdf
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Originally Posted By adamsteve14⏩
I think everyone needs to recognize that, if you did what Hunter did, the DOJ would never offer you such a deal. The fact that democrats want to act like there isn’t a 2-tiered justice system is laughable.
It’s almost like there’s a different system of justice for different people.
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post 1687282283 07-27-2023, 07:41 AM
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how the media covers it

CLAIRE MCCASKILL TO JEN PSAKI:

"They’re going to try to indict a father for loving his son, who has been addicted to drugs and/or alcohol."



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post 1687283433 07-27-2023, 08:02 AM
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Another good thread worth reading in full:

post 1687285533 07-27-2023, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Another good thread worth reading in full:

Our country is as corrupt as any other in the world and it's good that more and more people are realizing it.

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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
Srs question that neither of us know the answer to: What law allows a judge to put restrictions unrelated to the charges on a currently innocent person?
One of the charges involves a gun and drugs, hence the gun and drug restrictions.
Originally Posted By metroins⏩
This could go into the broader discussion of bail reform as well as judges making decisions without merit. In Texas, some judges even have powers within their precinct to act outside of the courtroom, which I think is crazy.
Someone ITT has no idea what a "county judge" is in Texas.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
You guys have got to read this thread in full:




Basically the immunity deal was thrown in the Diversion agreement because the Diversion agreement doesn't need to be signed off by the the judge. It was a total hoodwink move and the judge totally caught onto their bullshіt.












post 1687287483 07-27-2023, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
^^This is a great thread, that can be read in full here:




Reposting the attachments so it's easier to read. Weiss and Merrick Garland are corrupt af. They literally tried pulling a fast one on the judge. It seems like they were trying to hide the immunity deal from the judge. Paragraph 15 (the immunity deal) was not included with her copy of the Diversion agreement. They eventually provided her a copy, but it seems like she may have had to request it.

They basically were asking for a get out of jail free card. Seems to me this is either because they were overly confident with their political standing that the law would look the other way, or that they are extremely desperate to get all of the Hunter Biden crimes to go away as quickly as possible. Cavalier? Or a Hail Mary?
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Originally Posted By JeepBruh⏩
They basically were asking for a get out of jail free card. Seems to me this is either because they were overly confident with their political standing that the law would look the other way, or that they are extremely desperate to get all of the Hunter Biden crimes to go away as quickly as possible. Cavalier? Or a Hail Mary?
If he is given sweeping immunity, then the stuff that would really send the public crazy (foreign money, underage girls etc) doesn't have to ever be investigated, as he can't be charged for it.

It's like suspectimg somebody of being a serial killer, prosecuting them for shoplifting and then giving them immunity from any other charges. All done so that they don't have to investigate the murders.

The only reason that he was pleading guilty was to get the immunity deal.
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
If he is given sweeping immunity, then the stuff that would really send the public crazy (foreign money, underage girls etc) doesn't have to ever be investigated, as he can't be charged for it.

It's like suspectimg somebody of being a serial killer, prosecuting them for shoplifting and then giving them immunity from any other charges. All done so that they don't have to investigate the murders.

The only reason that he was pleading guilty was to get the immunity deal.
This deal isn't about Hunter. Any real investigation of Hunter will inevitably lead to Joe. THAT is who this deal was protecting.
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
If he is given sweeping immunity, then the stuff that would really send the public crazy (foreign money, underage girls etc) doesn't have to ever be investigated, as he can't be charged for it.

It's like suspectimg somebody of being a serial killer, prosecuting them for shoplifting and then giving them immunity from any other charges. All done so that they don't have to investigate the murders.

The only reason that he was pleading guilty was to get the immunity deal.
Its blatantly obvious that is what is going on. The real scandal is that the DOJ was going to take that deal before the judge stopped it. Remember when leftists used to hate government corruption? I remember.
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That so called deal Hunter initially got was so convoluted it’s not even funny. Bet he’s praying that his dad pardon’s him if the SHTF.
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The best part about the whole thing, is that the Judge is a Dem. So people can't complain that this is some republican judge witch hunt.
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Originally Posted By stevebec⏩
This deal isn't about Hunter. Any real investigation of Hunter will inevitably lead to Joe. THAT is who this deal was protecting.
This. No one gives a fk about hunter Biden. A low IQ drug addict trust fund baby loser.
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Originally Posted By DeshaunWatson⏩
This. No one gives a fk about hunter Biden. A low IQ drug addict trust fund baby loser.
This. Which is why, when people say ‘impeach hunter’, they are willfully ignoring the main argument of the right-that Hunter is simply the bagman for the Biden family. They know that, of course, but lack the cognitive ability to come up with a logically-consistent defense.
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Originally Posted By adamsteve14⏩
This. Which is why, when people say ‘impeach hunter’, they are willfully ignoring the main argument of the right-that Hunter is simply the bagman for the Biden family. They know that, of course, but lack the cognitive ability to come up with a logically-consistent defense.
So those people saying 'impeach hunter' are intentionally being deceptive? And they are choosing to be deceptive because they don't want crimes to be exposed that would hurt their political cause? They sound like pretty terrible people who don't care about the country.

Maybe we can get one of those people to explain why they are doing this and why they aren't terrible people. There must be another angle we are not seeing.
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Originally Posted By JeepBruh⏩
So those people saying 'impeach hunter' are intentionally being deceptive? And they are choosing to be deceptive because they don't want crimes to be exposed that would hurt their political cause? They sound like pretty terrible people who don't care about the country.

Maybe we can get one of those people to explain why they are doing this and why they aren't terrible people. There must be another angle we are not seeing.
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Originally Posted By JeepBruh⏩
So those people saying 'impeach hunter' are intentionally being deceptive? And they are choosing to be deceptive because they don't want crimes to be exposed that would hurt their political cause? They sound like pretty terrible people who don't care about the country.

Maybe we can get one of those people to explain why they are doing this and why they aren't terrible people. There must be another angle we are not seeing.
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Originally Posted By JeepBruh⏩
So those people saying 'impeach hunter' are intentionally being deceptive? And they are choosing to be deceptive because they don't want crimes to be exposed that would hurt their political cause? They sound like pretty terrible people who don't care about the country.

Maybe we can get one of those people to explain why they are doing this and why they aren't terrible people. There must be another angle we are not seeing.
They're trying to make the case that since Hunter isn't president, that his crimes are his own and don't matter to the presidency. That he's just this administration's Billy Carter / Roger Clinton.

What they're (mostly willfully) ignoring is that Hunter's business dealings are tied to Joe.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Here is the full transcript from the hearing:


https://media.marcopolousa.org/pdf/2...transcript.pdf
interesting

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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
At this moment, hunter is innocent until proven guilty. A foundation of our judicial system.
incorrect.
he is charged with illegal possession of a firearm by a drug addict.
this is proven.
that is why he was in custody.
because he broke the law and there is sufficient evidence.
hence the judge can dictate terms of release.

he is welcome to stay in prison.
Also "innocent" is a word that does not belong in a court house.
it is guilty or not guilty and there is more than sufficient evidence for him to be proven guilty.

that is why the defense is trying to cop a plea deal.

what i find strange is the way the judge is allowing this to drag out and didn't pee pee slap everyone involved with the shenanigans in the plea.
Almost seems like special treatment for the presidents son to me with a little cover your ass thrown in by not allowing the shenanigans.
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
You keep talking about the plea. My discussion is centered around the pretrial release conditions. He currently has plead not guilty and is considered innocent. The plea deal means nothing until its finalized and has no bearing on what I am asking.

My rights are terminated when I break the law? That's not how it works boyo.
Having a temporary restriction on owning firearms while you are on trial for a felony gun violation seems like a logical restriction.
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Originally Posted By deshaunwatson⏩
this. No one gives a fk about hunter biden.
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Former Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani Associate Lev Parnas reads from his exclusive letter to Rep. James Comer of the House Oversight Committee. His letter outlines Trump and Giuliani’s efforts to dig up dirt on the Biden family as well as their continued efforts to interfere with the highest levels of Ukrainian politics....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eUq2cb7sGo&t=1707s





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