This guy again lol.It's usually bad when you start living together, and see each other every day.

I had a bro move in this his girl after a few years of dating. Moved out four months later, and got fuk'd with still having to pay the lease, but it was worth the cost to him.

Reason being is he said he didn't have any more alone time after work. As soon as he popped through the door he had to start dealing with the bullshyt.

I always find it funny how people who have already lived with a partner/spouse and gone through the misery of breaking up while living with the person don't learn from their own history. They can go through absolute emotional/financial hell and back with that, and they still won't realize that they don't actually know the next amazing perfect person they date until they move in with them.

They'll talk about how fun and perfect the new person they're dating is, and how different they are from the ex who they lived with. No chit the new person seem perfect when you haven't had to deal with the trash yet lmao

I'm gonna go ahead and wager a guess that Legz probably wasn't quite as entitled to alimony based off her state's laws if she didn't get it.

What's more believable to you? That a woman who still speaks bitterly about an ex from like 15+ years ago and how she feels she got F'd over in the divorce voluntarioy waived alimony payments purely out of the goodness of her heart?

or, that getting that alimony wasn't as sure of a thing as she wished it was, so she waived it to avoid a court battle she had a decent chance of losing regarding the issue?

Yeah, all this is true. Men thinking with their dinks is one of the easiest ways they make their own lives much more of a pita than they need to be.

So regardless of the actual law, which I included in the post, the court has the final say? Right?

I 100% guarantee that Legz's claim that she was easily entitled by law to alimony from her divorce, but waived it out of the goodness of her heart was stretching the truth heavily. She probably qualified to stand a fighting chance in court at alimony, but made too much money/was getting enough in post-divorce assets that her ex would have had a good chance at beating her alimony request in court if she were to have made one.

I guarantee the conversation with her divorce attorney went something along those lines, where they just had to face reality that trying to go after her ex for alimony probably wasn't going to be worth the hassle. The day a divorce attorney allows a female client of theirs who is in good position to get alimony to just waive it out of the goodness of their hearts would be a cold day in hell.

Just because something is a law doesn't make it morally fair. Slavery used to be legal, but would you have ever called it "fair" just because of that?

Also, family court is notrious for having minimal set rules and letting judges do whatever the hell they want within an unusually broad scope for court cases. Yes there are rules and guidelines, but divorce/family court is a joke in terms of how broad of power judges have in them.

Not that I know her story and if I did I wouldn't spell it out to the Misc., but some women settle without alimony so they don't have to hire expensive attorneys and deal with a messy divorce, especially with kids involved.

You *might* get alimony or more money but it's hard to hire that attorney up front with a $20,000 retainer fee.

The only time I see that clown pop up is when he's making some huge purchase or some other nonsense.

It's like he doesn't get any satisfaction or attention from the people in his immediate life, so he comes here for it.

Imagine posting pics of your kid on this forum of all places looking for attention.

Are you talking about that miscer who is always posting a list of instructions he made in how to keep a woman/marriage happy, and it hyper focuses on the idea that making sure you bang her out good all the time is a guarantee of success?

This for me.

20 years in and if I was giving 22 year old me advice, I'd tell me to do it again.

Honestly, I have a hard time taking anyone's advice on marriage that says out of thousands they only know one happy married couple.

A lot of men end up F'd over because divorce is such an awful process that they just lay down and accept whatever bs the woman demands in court and calls it a day. Because they are already so over the emotional trauma of it all, that they just can't handle some drawn out court fight.

Are you just rapidfire posting at this point? We both agree the actual law is “fair and a court will follow the law.” I included it in my initial comment.


I specifically asked Legz about the financial shift in her marriage that started with him being broke and ended with her being entitled to alimony after 15 years.

This.

If you have no plans to have kids, then I would agree getting married makes zero sense other than for minor tax benefits.

That said, if you follow this advice, you will be a 60+ year old loner with no family. Your life will be pointless and empty. That is the real black pill here.

As much as I'd like to go the traditional route and get married, have a wife & kids, etc. I don't think it's really too viable these days. Society and people's sentiments have changed to where people don't see marriage as the institution it once was.... or thought of to be. The current generation, and obviously a lot of upcoming generations, seem to favor experiences above all else. Marriage and family isn't going to be a positive experience 100% of the time so people forfeit that in favor of something much more self-serving, to help mitigate any potential hardships they, themselves may experience. Naturally they don't see the inherent positives in a lifelong companionship with someone you created a family with, either. We now have women saying "I'd rather be a single mom" and men saying "I'd rather just pay child support" even.

The fabric of society has been unraveled too much and we probably can't go back. The sky is falling, too.

And I've always contended a serious majority of people who go through a divorce or a nasty breakup, have kids with "the wrong person" and so forth, just didn't do their due diligence on the other person and vet them properly. Notice I said "a majority" and not all of them. Most people will make too drastic of compromises for the sake of not being lonely or maybe their biological clock is ticking. I can't count how many times I hear about breakups, separations, divorces, and the person goes on about the red flags they chose to ignore. I have a very difficult time believing the person suddenly changed so drastically at the age when the brain is much less plastic and people are mostly set in their ways. inb4 people reply with unverified exceptions and their personal stories.

I prefer a life of never loved never lost compared to loved and lost

Don’t want kids and won’t be getting married

Cheers

Marriage is worth trying if:

- She makes similar, or larger, income to you
- She is more traditional (helps if she grew up in a non-Western culture)
- You can make eachother coom
- You enjoy your time together, as opposed to seeing it as an obligation
- There's kids involved, or a plan for future kids together

Simple as that. I know some of you might view the first two bullet points as contradictory, but if she has a solid income, there's no fear of gold digging / work refusal /divorce rape. If she has traditional values (no cheating, no desire for open relationships or multiple partners, might stay at home solely for younger ages of kids and then goes back to work), less concern for divorce, and a higher chance of adhering to the vows (till death do us part).

Damn, son son.

You want a traditional career girl lmao.

You want it all. don't ya.

All your bullet points are kind of retarded. Be in a marriage for 10 years and see if any of that applies.

Kids just aren't enough today to keep a marriage intact.

The marriage has to work to raise kids. If your marriage is failed/toxic, the kids are going to grow up in a slightly better situation maybe than in a divorced setting.

You ever lived with parents who are at each others necks all the time? It doesn't work out well for the kids.

And like the lawyer said. In the modern world of technology, where infidelity is almost certain during rough patches....

Good luck.

People think men seeing escorts and prostitutes is a incel thing. I've watched tons of interviews Mark has done with street walkers, escorts, and they all say that married men are their base clients, because pussy will get cut off at a certain point.

So she's supposed to be traditional--cook and clean AND work full-time? Then gym on top of that? I know women from other cultures who do this (except for the gym part) and they're miserable but less likely to divorce due to their culture. That's a lot to ask of one person and who wants a miserable wife?

In for later. Gonna be a brutal watch since I’m already redpilled and married

I was a stay at home mom for most of my sons childhood. He made me quit my full time job a few months after my son was born because it was inconvenient for him. I worked part time through some of the years when my son was in school. I worked at my sons school part time for peanuts so that I had the same time off as him. I found a full time job after 4 months of searching after he said he was divorcing me, making 1/4 of what he made. My lawyer said that was really good and rare that I found a job so soon. He did cheat and was making a lot of money when he asked for a divorce to be with his mistress. So I was fully justified in taking alimony but I didn't.See above.

ETA: My lawyer did advise me to take the alimony but I just wanted it over with and wasn't about trying to gouge my ex. It was a terrible time in mine and my sons life and I was just trying to survive and make sure my son was ok.

Damn the video is actually really good. I usually don't have time for hour long videos especially with no cliffs, but this is really worth the wath