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post 1689064563 08-27-2023, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad
Why are you using time to measure how much someone should be paid?
**** it let's pay someone who works twenty four hrs, for 32hrs of work then.....
post 1689064643 08-27-2023, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Or maybe neither of us are on your low socioeconomic level of being an hourly labourer.
Anyone who thinks salaried workers are able to work less than 50 hrs a week is either an hourly wagey or a low rent gov worker.

Also, I thought you weren’t a beaver-cel. What’s with the ou?
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post 1689064703 08-27-2023, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
**** it let's pay someone who works twenty four hrs, for 32hrs of work then.....
Person A produces 30 units of output in 24 hours

Person B produces 28 units of output in 32 hours

Who should be paid more?
post 1689064763 08-27-2023, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior
Anyone who thinks salaried workers are able to work less than 50 hrs a week is either an hourly wagey or a low rent gov worker.

Also, I thought you weren’t a beaver-cel. What’s with the ou?
Lmao u can’t be srs
post 1689065163 08-27-2023, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad
Person A produces 30 units of output in 24 hours

Person B produces 28 units of output in 32 hours

Who should be paid more?
How would this fantasy apply to teachers? Especially the ones that teach 1st through 6th grade?
post 1689065433 08-27-2023, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
How would this fantasy apply to teachers? Especially the ones that teach 1st through 6th grade?
it’s not a fantasy and we’re clearly talking about different types of jobs

Let’s say you’re hiring a landscaper

You have one guy with a shovel who takes 100 hours to get the job done and another guy with a tractor and a bunch of equipment who gets it done in one day

Are you really telling me you’d pay the guy who takes 100 hours more money because he put more time in?
post 1689065533 08-27-2023, 07:14 PM
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It doesn’t matter how you feel about it, it’s going to happen eventually. People who want more money rather than time off will just invest time in their own personal side gigs.
post 1689065603 08-27-2023, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad
it’s not a fantasy and we’re clearly talking about different types of jobs

Let’s say you’re hiring a landscaper

You have one guy with a shovel who takes 100 hours to get the job done and another guy with a tractor and a bunch of equipment who gets it done in one day

Are you really telling me you’d pay the guy who takes 100 hours more money because he put more time in?
You're talking about hiring someone for an agreed upon price, to do work on your property???
post 1689065633 08-27-2023, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You're talking about hiring someone for an agreed upon price, to do work on your property???
With your logic you’d pay the guy who takes more time to get the job done vs paying an agreed upon price.

Let’s say you’re hiring a sales guy. Who should be paid more the guy that works 90 hours a week and brings in 20 million a year or the guy who works 45 hours a week and brings in 40 million a year?
post 1689066913 08-27-2023, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad
With your logic you’d pay the guy who takes more time to get the job done vs paying an agreed upon price.

Let’s say you’re hiring a sales guy. Who should be paid more the guy that works 90 hours a week and brings in 20 million a year or the guy who works 45 hours a week and brings in 40 million a year?
Once again, what happens to those who swipe in and out? Who are paid by the hr?
post 1689067073 08-27-2023, 07:44 PM
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For sure, as long as they don't restrict overtime pay. Id make bank with a 32 hour work week
post 1689067153 08-27-2023, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Once again, what happens to those who swipe in and out? Who are paid by the hr?
These are low level jobs and yeah sure if you need someone standing for 8 hours at a cash register using time to determine how much they earn makes sense. I’m not talking about these types of jobs though.
post 1689067703 08-27-2023, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad
These are low level jobs and yeah sure if you need someone standing for 8 hours at a cash register using time to determine how much they earn makes sense. I’m not talking about these types of jobs though.
You gonna have doctor's, nurses, pilots, firefighters, police officers, teachers, paramedics, only work 32hrs a week?
post 1689068433 08-27-2023, 08:21 PM
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Right now I average about 55 hours a week. The 15 hours of overtime are voluntarily and I don't have to do it if I don't want to, but my job is easy and I don't mind making extra money, especially if I don't have anything else to do. My normal 40 hour work week is 10 hour shifts, Monday thru Thursday with Friday Saturday and Sunday off. But I'll usually do an extra 10 hours on Friday, and an extra 5 hours on Wednesday.
post 1689069353 08-27-2023, 08:45 PM
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If the workweek is cut to 32 hrs instead of 40, paychecks are going to be 80% of what they used to be.
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post 1689069553 08-27-2023, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad
Lmao u can’t be srs
Weren’t you trying super hard to get into private equity a while ago? Probably good thing you didn’t if you think all that being a “mogger” is is pushing work down to the analysts, taking a few phone calls, happy hours, and ******* binges.

As someone who was in the PE industry, I can promise you the only ones who are happy are the ones who are in love with their career. Anyone who has outside interests is miserable. Best thing you can hope for is go in-house somewhere and work 50 hours instead of 80 hours, but for 1/3 the pay.
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post 1689071893 08-27-2023, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted By poundXpound
If the workweek is cut to 32 hrs instead of 40, paychecks are going to be 80% of what they used to be.
I believe there would be some sort of system in place to counter any issues in regards to pay.. and obviously this wouldn't work blanket all over in every industry.

I do think eventually this will happen in our lifetimes. It's gonna be funny to read miscers get upset over it tho when/if it does
post 1689072153 08-27-2023, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08
I believe there would be some sort of system in place to counter any issues in regards to pay.. and obviously this wouldn't work blanket all over in every industry.

I do think eventually this will happen in our lifetimes. It's gonna be funny to read miscers get upset over it tho when/if it does
Where is a business gonna come up with the money to pay someone for 40hrs, when they're only working 32hrs, ****ing Mathew Perry looking bitch......
post 1689072233 08-27-2023, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted By poundXpound
If the workweek is cut to 32 hrs instead of 40, paychecks are going to be 80% of what they used to be.
Not in the mind of leftist.....

Imagine though, in this fantasy of theirs you can work 32 hrs a week, get paid for 40hrs, and if you're really ambitious, find another 32hr job, and get paid for 40hrs. Or just find minor part time job.
post 1689072323 08-27-2023, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior
Weren’t you trying super hard to get into private equity a while ago? Probably good thing you didn’t if you think all that being a “mogger” is is pushing work down to the analysts, taking a few phone calls, happy hours, and ******* binges.

As someone who was in the PE industry, I can promise you the only ones who are happy are the ones who are in love with their career. Anyone who has outside interests is miserable. Best thing you can hope for is go in-house somewhere and work 50 hours instead of 80 hours, but for 1/3 the pay.
I was never trying to get into private equity at any point in time in my life lol
post 1689072863 08-27-2023, 10:05 PM
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Did 30 hours/week for about a year as a self employed brah and it was nice. So much free time and energy for enjoying life. Now I'm working like 45-50 per week but making practically double so it's worth it. If I was a wagecuck I would definitely perform better busting my ass for 32/week than dragging through the day doing 40/week.
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post 1689073053 08-27-2023, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Where is a business gonna come up with the money to pay someone for 40hrs, when they're only working 32hrs, ****ing Mathew Perry looking bitch......
According to businesses who have already implemented this model they've seen a spike in revenue compared to the 40hr work week. Would assume it attracts better talent, with a better work/life balance

I think the mall cop industry could probably also do well doing this.
post 1689073423 08-27-2023, 10:21 PM
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post 1689073633 08-27-2023, 10:28 PM
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Didn’t read the thread but hell yes!
post 1689073723 08-27-2023, 10:31 PM
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I don't care what the rest of you fgts do but I'm going to keep working big hours and getting big checks.

On second thought maybe I do care, everywhere will have shorter hours or higher prices if their people only work 32 hours.
post 1689074133 08-27-2023, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted By _zman
Since when is less work a liberal utopia? It's already been implemented successfully in other countries.
I meant: less work week hours but the same pay as what you tended to average. I'm ok with working less while making the same, but there better not be increased prices on everything else to compensate. But all these conditions, i would think, are not attainable. But these things are probably impossible to meet. Like a liberal utopia
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post 1689081303 08-28-2023, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08
According to businesses who have already implemented this model they've seen a spike in revenue compared to the 40hr work week. Would assume it attracts better talent, with a better work/life balance

I think the mall cop industry could probably also do well doing this.
Whatever you say Mathew Perry, once again, if you're only working 32hrs a week, why would you get paid for 40hrs a week? Businesses are still struggling from surviving the lock downs and mandates, **** you supported, and now this?
post 1689082583 08-28-2023, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
I would much rather just eliminate the government saying what is and isn't a standard workweek
This is the answer right here. The employer and employee should be able to agree on whatever hours and pay structure they want without the government telling them what they can or can't do
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