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post 1690565453 09-23-2023, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Evidence that immigration net negative?


Because, at a point Alabama tried to curtail illegal immigration and this was eventually repealed when it wrought havoc on their economy:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...on-law-workers


The immigrants aren't taking ERR JERBS, they're doing work that no other Americans want to do. Legal immigration, also, has stringent requirements such as the company sponsoring your immigration and be coming to the country for specific types of job, and only if the company has failed to find a citizen for the position.


If they aren't taking ERR JERBS, what are they doing? They stimulate economic growth through labor, consume goods and services, start businesses, and contribute more in taxes than they receive back in welfare programs.

My understanding is that immigration being a negative force for their economy isn't true, since they often work jobs no one else is willing to.
You're claiming that the seven million illegals that crossed the border in three years, are beneficial to the country? Someone should tell the governors and mayor's of all these blue states/blue cities this info......

And I love when you people throw the **** jobs for low pay argument, so what you're saying is that you're in favor of modern day slavery?

And how are countries like S. Korea and Japan doing without immigration?
post 1690566903 09-23-2023, 10:09 PM
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Illegal immigration has cost the American people $180 billion in 2023. From healthcare to housing. They are DRAINING the economy, not helping.

Lefties don't know what they don't know. They willingly keep it that way
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post 1690567543 09-23-2023, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Evidence that immigration net negative?

If they aren't taking ERR JERBS, what are they doing? They stimulate economic growth through labor, consume goods and services, start businesses,and contribute more in taxes than they receive back in welfare programs.
Originally Posted By Kraken
Illegal immigration has cost the American people $180 billion in 2023. From healthcare to housing. They are DRAINING the economy, not helping.

Lefties don't know what they don't know. They willingly keep it that way
That's right, Kraken. Bodhy has no idea what he is talking about. Illegals are costing $182 billion, while only providing $31 billion in taxes. That's a net negative of $151 billion. That was 2022, it has to be even worse by now. See below.
A new report by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) finds that, as of 2022, American taxpayers shell out at least $151 billion each year to cover the cost of illegal immigration. Broken down, the data reveals that taxpayers pay $182 billion annually to provide services and benefits to illegal aliens and their dependents. These costs are offset by about $31 billion in taxes that are collected from the estimated 15.5 million illegal aliens living in the United States, bringing the net cost to $150.7 billion annually.
^And this is just under the assumption that there are only 15.5 million illegal aliens in the US. They been saying we have 10-15 million illegals for at least a decade now.

We do know that we have 7.2 million illegals that have entered since Biden has been in office.

Of those 7.2 million new illegals, only 700k have work papers, with 500k of the work papers just announced this week.

That means 6.5 million of the new illegal aliens since Biden took office have no papers, and are a straight up net negative to society.

Just look at the 100k illegals in NYC alone. They are costing the city $12 billion over 3 years.

We were never supposed to have such a massive influx of illegals over such a short period of time.
post 1690570903 09-24-2023, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
That's right, Kraken. Bodhy has no idea what he is talking about. Illegals are costing $182 billion, while only providing $31 billion in taxes. That's a net negative of $151 billion. That was 2022, it has to be even worse by now. See below.




^And this is just under the assumption that there are only 15.5 million illegal aliens in the US. They been saying we have 10-15 million illegals for at least a decade now.

We do know that we have 7.2 million illegals that have entered since Biden has been in office.

Of those 7.2 million new illegals, only 700k have work papers, with 500k of the work papers just announced this week.

That means 6.5 million of the new illegal aliens since Biden took office have no papers, and are a straight up net negative to society.

Just look at the 100k illegals in NYC alone. They are costing the city $12 billion over 3 years.

We were never supposed to have such a massive influx of illegals over such a short period of time.
Doodhy never knows what he's talking about. He a cuck brainwashed by his cuck country that doesn't know what's going on because he's just a foreign şhit smearing tranny fűcker that likes getting pegged by women with strap-ons
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post 1690571883 09-24-2023, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
That's right, Kraken. Bodhy has no idea what he is talking about. Illegals are costing $182 billion, while only providing $31 billion in taxes. That's a net negative of $151 billion. That was 2022, it has to be even worse by now. See below.




^And this is just under the assumption that there are only 15.5 million illegal aliens in the US. They been saying we have 10-15 million illegals for at least a decade now.

We do know that we have 7.2 million illegals that have entered since Biden has been in office.

Of those 7.2 million new illegals, only 700k have work papers, with 500k of the work papers just announced this week.

That means 6.5 million of the new illegal aliens since Biden took office have no papers, and are a straight up net negative to society.

Just look at the 100k illegals in NYC alone. They are costing the city $12 billion over 3 years.

We were never supposed to have such a massive influx of illegals over such a short period of time.
people who think we need illegals for the economy are idiots. they are putting them up in hotels at massive cost to the tax payers. most farm work is automated, they already had illegals doing farm work before the millions that poured in the last few years. there are no jobs for the millions of new illegals. there is more automation than ever before. all these illegals are just going on welfare
post 1690571913 09-24-2023, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Evidence that immigration net negative?


Because, at a point Alabama tried to curtail illegal immigration and this was eventually repealed when it wrought havoc on their economy:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...on-law-workers


The immigrants aren't taking ERR JERBS, they're doing work that no other Americans want to do. Legal immigration, also, has stringent requirements such as the company sponsoring your immigration and be coming to the country for specific types of job, and only if the company has failed to find a citizen for the position.


If they aren't taking ERR JERBS, what are they doing? They stimulate economic growth through labor, consume goods and services, start businesses, and contribute more in taxes than they receive back in welfare programs.

My understanding is that immigration being a negative force for their economy isn't true, since they often work jobs no one else is willing to.
idk how hard it is to understand that most of these illegals are on welfare and are put in free housing and drain the healthcare system. the US doesnt have unlimited demand for janitors and farm workers. we certainly dont have a few million vacancies.
post 1690573143 09-24-2023, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken
Illegal immigration has cost the American people $180 billion in 2023. From healthcare to housing. They are DRAINING the economy, not helping.

Lefties don't know what they don't know. They willingly keep it that way
You and the others who brainlessly followed in tow are basing this off off the FAIR analysis which has deliberately framed the evidence and stats to cater to right-wing propaganda outlets. It's a poor source to draw from.

Lengthier rebuttal in a little while, watching movie with friends atm.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
post 1690574693 09-24-2023, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
You and the others who brainlessly followed in tow are basing this off off the FAIR analysis which has deliberately framed the evidence and stats to cater to right-wing propaganda outlets. It's a poor source to draw from.

Lengthier rebuttal in a little while, watching movie with friends atm.
Wow, if only someone like you can explain to the leftist politicians in NY, Illinois, and California, that they shouldn't be declaring state of emergencies over illegals being dumped in their backyard.....

And I'm sure the soon to be created "tent city" will also be beneficial....
post 1690581383 09-24-2023, 09:54 AM
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I thought Shіt for Brains had a rebuttal?

Was eagerly awaiting to hear how 7.2 million illegal aliens in less than 3 years is a net positive for our country.

Was hoping some Australian shіt smearing tranny fuсker can enlighten us with his left-wing propaganda.
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Originally Posted By gwg77
I thought Shіt for Brains had a rebuttal?

Was eagerly awaiting to hear how 7.2 million illegal aliens in less than 3 years is a net positive for our country.

Was hoping some Australian shіt smearing tranny fuсker can enlighten us with his left-wing propaganda.
Ummmmmm........ You're a racist?
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Yet, more Hispanics are running to the GOP, as a direct result of Biden's idiotic policies like Open Borders and the illegals taking their jobs and reducing their value.
Helping one person may not change the world, but it could change the world for one person.
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Here in this country we have a housing crisis and homelessness on a rise and this president wants to bring in more people from other countries and spend our money to try to help them get established.

Did you know that only about 45% of Mexicans have a HS level education? That HS is based on Mexican standards which is much lower. Only about 10% have any real education past that. I doubt the top tier Mexicans are the one's climbing over our borders. Countries south of our border have a severe poverty problem and they are using the US as a dumping ground expecting us to take care of them. I've been to Mexico and it's not that bad and most Mexicans there are decent as anywhere else but the one's coming across our border are a different breed and I can see why they have no problem losing them. These people are a net-negative for the country, no reason to bring them in.
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps
Doodhy never knows what he's talking about. He a cuck brainwashed by his cuck country that doesn't know what's going on because he's just a foreign şhit smearing tranny fűcker that likes getting pegged by women with strap-ons
Don't try to smear us all with the same brush. Most australians hate illegal immigrants, and our governments have done a good job of keeping them out. It's no longer an issue for us, when our navy started turning the refugee boats back years ago.

And it's such a cancerous policy to oppose it, that we have both sides in agreeance that the policy works.

Bodhy just likes sucking immigrant cocks.
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Originally Posted By InPhase
Don't try to smear us all with the same brush. Most australians hate illegal immigrants, and our governments have done a good job of keeping them out. It's no longer an issue for us, when our navy started turning the refugee boats back years ago.

And it's such a cancerous policy to oppose it, that we have both sides in agreeance that the policy works.

Bodhy just likes sucking immigrant cocks.
I don't know anything about your border policy, but I imagine it's a sh*t ton easier for you guys to handle it because you're surround by miles of ocean in any direction. To Australia's credit, your merit based immigration system is something America badly needs.
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Democrat Gov. Kathy Hochul calls in National Guard amid New York's worsening migrant crisis

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...migrant-crisis

But Bohdy said that illegals are a net positive, and if you believe otherwise, then you're just racist......
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Our Self-Induced Catastrophe at the Border
No nation in history has survived once its borders were destroyed.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/our-sel...at-the-border/

excerpt:

....But why did the Biden administration deliberately unleash the largest influx across the southern border in U.S. history?

The ethnic chauvinists and Democratic Party elites needed new constituents, given their increasingly unpopular agendas.

They feared that the more legal Latino immigrants assimilated and integrated into American society, the less happy they became with left-wing radical abortion, racial, transgender, crime, and green fixations.

Democratic grandees had always bragged that illegal immigration would create what they called “The New Democratic Majority” in “Demography is Destiny” fashion. Now they slander critics as “racists” who object to left-wing efforts to use illegal immigration to turn southwestern red states blue.

Mexico now cannot survive as a modern state without some $60 billion in annual remittances sent by its expatriates in America. However, many illegal immigrants rely on American state and federal entitlements to free up cash to send home.

Mexico also encourages its own abject poor and often indigenous people from southern Mexico to head north as a safety valve of sorts. The government sees these mass exoduses northward as preferable to the oppressed marching on Mexico City to address grievances of poverty and racism.

The criminal cartels now de facto-run Mexico. An open border allows them to ship ******** northward, earn billions in profits — and kill nearly 100,000 Americans a year. Illegal immigrants pay cartels additional billions to facilitate their border crossings.

Do not forget American corporate employers. Record labor nonparticipation followed the COVID lockdown. In reaction to the dearth of American workers, the hospitality, meat packing, social service, health care, and farming industries were desperate to hire new — and far cheaper — labor.

Human rights activists insist that the borders themselves are nineteenth-century relics. And the global poor and oppressed, thus, have a human right to enter the affluent West by any means necessary.

Many in the tony suburbs and in universities do not live anywhere near the border. So they pontificate on the assurance that thousands of unaudited illegal immigrants will never enter their own enclaves or campuses.

The result is elite-bottled piety — but not firsthand experience with the natural consequences of millions chaotically fleeing one of the poorest countries in the world to pour into the wealthiest. Without background checks, vaccinations and health audits, legality, high-school diplomas, English facility, skill sets, or capital, the result is an abject catastrophe.

Polls continue to show that the American people support measured, diverse, legal, and meritocratic immigration as much as they oppose mass illegal immigration into their country and the subsequent loss of American sovereignty on the border.

They understand what the Biden administration does not: No nation is history has survived once its borders were destroyed, once its citizenship was rendered no different from mere residence, and once its neighbors with impunity undermined its sovereignty.

Ending illegal immigration now depends solely on the American people overriding the corrupt special interests and leaders who profit from the current chaos and human misery.

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