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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
Yeah.Yep. We have a baby girl, and she is amazing but she did change things too. Wifey and I could just yolo before and go to Masa on a whim, spend all weekend out and chilling.
Yet having said this she says she would like a second too, which I am fine with.
Some couples go into silos and feel lonely in their own relationship. Guys especially. Then they go out for a drink after work and the 24 year old bartender wants to get smashed by the guy who "has it made" and the guy thinks he has lost it all. He thinks this because he doesn't sit down with his wife.
Posted a thread a while back of a colleague who paid some Korean sloot in a "salon" in Ktown here in NYC for a drunken handjob and how much of a loser/depressed/sick he felt after.
Some Miscers did the old "all men pay for it, good for him lol" take. You can tell they are single and unhappy srs.
Yet having said this she says she would like a second too, which I am fine with.
Some couples go into silos and feel lonely in their own relationship. Guys especially. Then they go out for a drink after work and the 24 year old bartender wants to get smashed by the guy who "has it made" and the guy thinks he has lost it all. He thinks this because he doesn't sit down with his wife.
Posted a thread a while back of a colleague who paid some Korean sloot in a "salon" in Ktown here in NYC for a drunken handjob and how much of a loser/depressed/sick he felt after.
Some Miscers did the old "all men pay for it, good for him lol" take. You can tell they are single and unhappy srs.
Before kids with my ex, it was super easy to just hang out and do all the stuff he wanted done, but once kids came around, I had to allocate a huge portion of my energy to them and he got super bitter about it. I think the marriages that stay happy after kids are the ones where both parties evolve to the life of parenthood. But I've also found where women will go too far into their mom roles and just completely neglect their husbands, too, and those ones seem to be the loudest and bitchiest.
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Originally Posted By ZyraThornrise⏩
Agree with this.Yeah.
Before kids with my ex, it was super easy to just hang out and do all the stuff he wanted done, but once kids came around, I had to allocate a huge portion of my energy to them and he got super bitter about it. I think the marriages that stay happy after kids are the ones where both parties evolve to the life of parenthood. But I've also found where women will go too far into their mom roles and just completely neglect their husbands, too, and those ones seem to be the loudest and bitchiest.
Before kids with my ex, it was super easy to just hang out and do all the stuff he wanted done, but once kids came around, I had to allocate a huge portion of my energy to them and he got super bitter about it. I think the marriages that stay happy after kids are the ones where both parties evolve to the life of parenthood. But I've also found where women will go too far into their mom roles and just completely neglect their husbands, too, and those ones seem to be the loudest and bitchiest.
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
I see it in NYC. Like wifey and I go to a nice restaurant and some other couples are both staring at their phones. And then they wonder why they don't "connect".Gains brah above hit the nail on the head -bitter virgins.
Worse then they look at happy couples with extreme bitterness and jealousy like they are seeing a fabricated unicorn.
I wonder how many of these folks grew up in unhappy households (their parents) and let this experience negatively color their beliefs about the possibility of a happy relationship at all.
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My gf told me that of the 4 women that went to lunch Sunday, 3 are either going to divorce, split up, or do counseling.
My theory based on what she shared from the margarita lunch was that things did not go as they planned or someone changed.
No one can predict changes.
My theory based on what she shared from the margarita lunch was that things did not go as they planned or someone changed.
No one can predict changes.
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Originally Posted By ZyraThornrise⏩
Exactly. Because then his role becomes "just a job" to her, even if he wants to stay home too. In Germany you have the legal right to return to your job for 3 years - not a typo. So fathers can also play more of a support role. And some mothers then feel (hormones raging) that they are pulling 18 hour days, alone, doulas suck and you're dropping 150/hour for them etc.Yeah.
Before kids with my ex, it was super easy to just hang out and do all the stuff he wanted done, but once kids came around, I had to allocate a huge portion of my energy to them and he got super bitter about it. I think the marriages that stay happy after kids are the ones where both parties evolve to the life of parenthood. But I've also found where women will go too far into their mom roles and just completely neglect their husbands, too, and those ones seem to be the loudest and bitchiest.
Before kids with my ex, it was super easy to just hang out and do all the stuff he wanted done, but once kids came around, I had to allocate a huge portion of my energy to them and he got super bitter about it. I think the marriages that stay happy after kids are the ones where both parties evolve to the life of parenthood. But I've also found where women will go too far into their mom roles and just completely neglect their husbands, too, and those ones seem to be the loudest and bitchiest.
And the husband went to the gym, has business lunches...she doesn't even have an adult conversation because he comes home and they don't connect. Just talking past each other for months and years. It is the recipe for disaster: not communicating with each other.
Hate to see it.
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Originally Posted By ZyraThornrise⏩
Balance is key. Communication too. You wear many hats in a relationship. You shouldn't throw all of your proverbial eggs in one basket.Yeah.
Before kids with my ex, it was super easy to just hang out and do all the stuff he wanted done, but once kids came around, I had to allocate a huge portion of my energy to them and he got super bitter about it. I think the marriages that stay happy after kids are the ones where both parties evolve to the life of parenthood. But I've also found where women will go too far into their mom roles and just completely neglect their husbands, too, and those ones seem to be the loudest and bitchiest.
Before kids with my ex, it was super easy to just hang out and do all the stuff he wanted done, but once kids came around, I had to allocate a huge portion of my energy to them and he got super bitter about it. I think the marriages that stay happy after kids are the ones where both parties evolve to the life of parenthood. But I've also found where women will go too far into their mom roles and just completely neglect their husbands, too, and those ones seem to be the loudest and bitchiest.
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I'm the asshat in the relationship, not her. I've mellowed since we had a kid, but I used to get so focused on things that I would become oblivious to some "less important things".
I'm fortunate that we know and understand each other well enough that she will say "I love you, but you are being a dick, stop it". She'll then tell me what I was oblivious to, I'll take a pause and reset.
I'm fortunate that we know and understand each other well enough that she will say "I love you, but you are being a dick, stop it". She'll then tell me what I was oblivious to, I'll take a pause and reset.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
It's the worst thing, too. And blame can be put on either party for that.Most marriages around me completely revolve around the kids. Kids take number one priority. Mom runs the show directing the errands chores social calendar kids events etc and assigns to do lists. Husband is an afterthought just going along with everything anc doing what he is told. Husbands don’t seem to play any role other than just a worker.
I was forced into the stay at home mom role and it drained TF out of me. I couldn't balance it all by myself AND focus on his needs and wants, so it went sour pretty quick. Now that it's just me and the kids, I somehow have a much more balanced approach to parenting.
Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
My ex couldn't transition to the dad life. Didn't make him a bad person, just didn't make it easy to deal with either. He'd work, come home and play video games until dinner, eat, then go directly to bed every single day. On days off, if I didn't plan something, he'd just chill in his computer room all day. It got to the point where it felt like he was just kind of visiting instead of actually living there. The only interactions I'd have with him were him complaining about something I may have forgotten to do or complaining about his job. Tried setting up date nights, tried scheduling time where we'd watch TV together or game together, but he'd always cancel because he had some raid to do. I didn't even get mean when I broke it off with him. He was super shocked because, in his mind, things were great. It was odd.Exactly. Because then his role becomes "just a job" to her, even if he wants to stay home too. In Germany you have the legal right to return to your job for 3 years - not a typo. So fathers can also play more of a support role. And some mothers then feel (hormones raging) that they are pulling 18 hour days, alone, doulas suck and you're dropping 150/hour for them etc.
And the husband went to the gym, has business lunches...she doesn't even have an adult conversation because he comes home and they don't connect. Just talking past each other for months and years. It is the recipe for disaster: not communicating with each other.
Hate to see it.
And the husband went to the gym, has business lunches...she doesn't even have an adult conversation because he comes home and they don't connect. Just talking past each other for months and years. It is the recipe for disaster: not communicating with each other.
Hate to see it.
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09-26-2023, 10:15 AM
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Lol mine isnt. Only issue she has is sometimes being too hard on herself for dumb things and i have to encourage her. Don't marry miserable women.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
The fairy tale in their head didn't come to fruition.My gf told me that of the 4 women that went to lunch Sunday, 3 are either going to divorce, split up, or do counseling.
My theory based on what she shared from the margarita lunch was that things did not go as they planned or someone changed.
No one can predict changes.
My theory based on what she shared from the margarita lunch was that things did not go as they planned or someone changed.
No one can predict changes.
Most women live in a fairy tale in their head....
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They have an unrealistic expectation of what we can provide them.
They meet us and overlook our human condition. Almost as gods, because that is what society tells them. We are supposed to be stronger than humanly possible in every instance, we are supposed to be without flaw. We are supposed to be their hero and the hero of the kids.
But we are just dudes. We have strength, and can easily meet family needs and lead a family in a very healthy way, but in the end, we are just dudes. And the things about dudes they don't like, they begin to resent us for it. They resent us because their standard of what we should be, is literally impossible to meet.
They can't allow us to be ourselves, we always have to meet this idea of what they expect us to be. Being ourselves is annoying and frustrating to them.
They meet us and overlook our human condition. Almost as gods, because that is what society tells them. We are supposed to be stronger than humanly possible in every instance, we are supposed to be without flaw. We are supposed to be their hero and the hero of the kids.
But we are just dudes. We have strength, and can easily meet family needs and lead a family in a very healthy way, but in the end, we are just dudes. And the things about dudes they don't like, they begin to resent us for it. They resent us because their standard of what we should be, is literally impossible to meet.
They can't allow us to be ourselves, we always have to meet this idea of what they expect us to be. Being ourselves is annoying and frustrating to them.
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
Limerence is the technical term.The fairy tale in their head didn't come to fruition.
Most women live in a fairy tale in their head....
Most women live in a fairy tale in their head....
Women experience limerence 3 times as much as men do.
There's a whole study that was done on this that I need to find, but yeah... You're completely correct.
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Originally Posted By ZyraThornrise⏩
useful postLimerence is the technical term.
Women experience limerence 3 times as much as men do.
There's a whole study that was done on this that I need to find, but yeah... You're completely correct.
Women experience limerence 3 times as much as men do.
There's a whole study that was done on this that I need to find, but yeah... You're completely correct.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
This x350 x.Typically it's because they have lost attraction for their husband or were never attracted in the first place.
Then once this starts the guy trys to placate her and she loses more attraction.
Then once this starts the guy trys to placate her and she loses more attraction.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
In all honesty, I was still super into my ex even after I left. Hell, I talk to him more now than when we were together. I just feel like I was extremely codependent towards him. I was at the point where I was having daily panic attacks because I wanted everything for him to be perfect despite having no actual energy to do it all. It took my therapist and my caregiver pulling me to the side and making me do some stupid little exercise to realize I was pouring way too much from an empty cup. Once I had my second heart attack due to stress, I realized something had to change drastically, and he pretty much told me outright he wasn't planning on changing anything.Yes my brother in law is retired now and spends all day in his computer room and all evening on the couch watching TV. Boring af and idk how you can still be attracted to each other in that lifestyle.
I really believe the VAST majority of lasting marriages last because of convenience and money and people just not wanting to be alone. I don’t think it’s about attraction or love at all really. Love seems to be just a pretext for people being dependent on each other for something else.
I really believe the VAST majority of lasting marriages last because of convenience and money and people just not wanting to be alone. I don’t think it’s about attraction or love at all really. Love seems to be just a pretext for people being dependent on each other for something else.
Now that we aren't together, both of our lives are much healthier. He is much more involved with the kids, he went back to work and started focusing on bettering himself and he even socializes a lot more.
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Here's the problem
Most of you are kissless virgins
The others don't understand that compromise is required, service to one another, and a moral compass that is congruent to some kind of spiritual or religious belief system aligning together. Life isn't all rainbows and unicorns, but you can choose happiness with a partner if you want it.
Most of you are kissless virgins
The others don't understand that compromise is required, service to one another, and a moral compass that is congruent to some kind of spiritual or religious belief system aligning together. Life isn't all rainbows and unicorns, but you can choose happiness with a partner if you want it.
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Originally Posted By ZyraThornrise⏩
Women initiate the vast majority of divorces and they always have - even prior to legislation overly benefitting them in the process.My ex couldn't transition to the dad life. Didn't make him a bad person, just didn't make it easy to deal with either. He'd work, come home and play video games until dinner, eat, then go directly to bed every single day. On days off, if I didn't plan something, he'd just chill in his computer room all day. It got to the point where it felt like he was just kind of visiting instead of actually living there. The only interactions I'd have with him were him complaining about something I may have forgotten to do or complaining about his job. Tried setting up date nights, tried scheduling time where we'd watch TV together or game together, but he'd always cancel because he had some raid to do. I didn't even get mean when I broke it off with him. He was super shocked because, in his mind, things were great. It was odd.
Men report higher satisfaction in marriages across the board than women.
I have heard your story in college - some guy nearly failing out of college playing 70 hours a week and wondering why his gf isn't happy.
Many folks in breakups love to just dump X and Y on their ex and portray themselves as angels but the truth is normally far more complex and less black and white.
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Most of the times it’s because they are hungry and don’t know what to eat.
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Originally Posted By 4Bertuzzi4⏩
sounds like my ex every day. but of course, i was the bad guy telling her she was emotionally draining to me and to stop complainingSRS, why are married women so angry and bitchy towards their husband and kids?
I hear from fellow Married brahs, that their wives constantly give them $hit and are angry over nothing, while the Married brah is quite content, and rarely loses his temper.
Help me understand misc. Why is it the happier Married brah is, the angrier it makes his wife?
I hear from fellow Married brahs, that their wives constantly give them $hit and are angry over nothing, while the Married brah is quite content, and rarely loses his temper.
Help me understand misc. Why is it the happier Married brah is, the angrier it makes his wife?
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
Mirin' insight, acceptance of your own faults, and willingness to address said faults (srs). Extremely important process in a relationship. Although notice in your description that communication between you and your spouse made this possible.I'm the asshat in the relationship, not her. I've mellowed since we had a kid, but I used to get so focused on things that I would become oblivious to some "less important things".
I'm fortunate that we know and understand each other well enough that she will say "I love you, but you are being a dick, stop it". She'll then tell me what I was oblivious to, I'll take a pause and reset.
I'm fortunate that we know and understand each other well enough that she will say "I love you, but you are being a dick, stop it". She'll then tell me what I was oblivious to, I'll take a pause and reset.
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Because society has falsely aimed women toward boosting our GDP when evolution wanted nothing to do with that.
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
When I broke it off, I was at a position where I was working overtime so that he could stay home because I thought it would benefit us both. Sadly that only led to him gaming even more because even though we were both home, I was either working or doing chores, so we weren't able to reconnect. I lasted about a year before I had a full on mental breakdown from being massively overwhelmed.Women initiate the vast majority of divorces and they always have - even prior to legislation overly benefitting them in the process.
Men report higher satisfaction in marriages across the board than women.
I have heard your story in college - some guy nearly failing out of college playing 70 hours a week and wondering why his gf isn't happy.
Many folks in breakups love to just dump X and Y on their ex and portray themselves as angels but the truth is normally far more complex and less black and white.
Men report higher satisfaction in marriages across the board than women.
I have heard your story in college - some guy nearly failing out of college playing 70 hours a week and wondering why his gf isn't happy.
Many folks in breakups love to just dump X and Y on their ex and portray themselves as angels but the truth is normally far more complex and less black and white.
As mentioned above, I was a massive codependent. The fault of the divorce lied mostly with me in that I refused to ask for help despite drowning in responsibilities. So, in his eyes, things were completely fine because I never could figure out how to tell him otherwise.
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