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Thread: Mayor Johnson cancels controversial Chicago gunshot detection system

post 1697948523 02-16-2024, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
And?

Unless it's you shooting someone's dog you're not going to be anywhere near where the shots are detected. So you'll drive over there 20 minutes later and either find nothing or the same victim you'd find if someone called 911.

It does provide useful evidence every once in a while. Shotspotter is accurate to within +/- ~100 feet, and I'd guess most shootings are at less distance than that, so it's not "exact" and it's not like you have snipers that you need to find a mile away in real time or anything.
The neighborhood I work in is 20 square blocks.

And it's pinpoint accurate, it'll say **** like, "20 shots in the rear of this address"

But you are someone who believes I shouldn't look at my body cam, because it's unfair.....
post 1697954273 02-16-2024, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
And it's pinpoint accurate, it'll say **** like, "20 shots in the rear of this address"
You are not a reliable source Dave.
ShotSpotter guarantees detection of 80% of gunfire within the coverage area of 82 feet (25 meters) of the incident. ShotSpotter
requires three (3) to four (4) sensors to “hear” an incident before an alert is generated. The red “dot” indicator
displayed on the map is also guaranteed to be accurate within 82 feet (25 meters) radius.
https://columbiapd.net/wp-content/up...ert-System.pdf

An 82' radius area is 21,000 square feet. And only 80% will fall within that area. You really wanna call that "pinpoint" to make a retarded argument on the internet then have at it, but it just further proves that nothing you say should be considered dependable or logical or really anything even worth reading.
post 1697960153 02-16-2024, 07:00 PM
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Jfl libs are a ok with taking away a helpful technology while also remaining silent about the proposal to keep the contract until the DNC was finished. I guess that supposed low accuracy, wasteful technology is good enough for when their heroes come to town.
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post 1697960813 02-16-2024, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
You are not a reliable source Dave.



https://columbiapd.net/wp-content/up...ert-System.pdf

An 82' radius area is 21,000 square feet. And only 80% will fall within that area. You really wanna call that "pinpoint" to make a retarded argument on the internet then have at it, but it just further proves that nothing you say should be considered dependable or logical or really anything even worth reading.
Not like I experienced this **** first hand or anything.....
post 1697960853 02-16-2024, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By FlipBrah⏩
Jfl libs are a ok with taking away a helpful technology while also remaining silent about the proposal to keep the contract until the DNC was finished. I guess that supposed low accuracy, wasteful technology is good enough for when their heroes come to town.
It actually ends tonight.
post 1697961103 02-16-2024, 07:18 PM
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If black people do a bad thing too often, don't make them stop, instead try to make other people stop noticing
post 1697961223 02-16-2024, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
It actually ends tonight.
Yeah I know. But the libs here were crickets about it possibly being extended to the DNC. At least there’s LPRs until Johnson deems those racist bc too many stolens are reported as being done by “male black” offender(s)
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post 1697961283 02-16-2024, 07:22 PM
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Lmao this loser is still larping as a COP.

Mental illness
post 1697961313 02-16-2024, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By 6gorillion⏩
Lmao this loser is still larping as a COP.

Mental illness
Who the **** is this guy?
post 1697961343 02-16-2024, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Not like I experienced this **** first hand or anything.....
Keep up the good work sir, and thank you to ShotSpotter for creating such an effective crime fighting tool.

post 1697961493 02-16-2024, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted By FlipBrah⏩
Yeah I know. But the libs here were crickets about it possibly being extended to the DNC. At least there’s LPRs until Johnson deems those racist bc too many stolens are reported as being done by “male black” offender(s)
That's usually one car, and it will tell you if the plate is expired, it the driver is suspended/revoked, and if the car is stolen.

But we can't chase, so does it matter if it comes back stolen?
post 1697961573 02-16-2024, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Keep up the good work sir, and thank you to ShotSpotter for creating such an effective crime fighting tool.

Yep, progressive polices have consequences.
post 1697961663 02-16-2024, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted By 128⏩
If black people do a bad thing too often, don't make them stop, instead try to make other people stop noticing
Loot a business, others see you looting a business, and see that nothing happens, theft increases, business leaves, then they show up and blame it on racism and corporate greed.
post 1697961733 02-16-2024, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Yep, progressive polices have consequences.
They do, and no amount of "helpful technology" will do chit about it.
post 1697961883 02-16-2024, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
They do, and no amount of "helpful technology" will do chit about it.
What next, get rid of POD cameras?
post 1697962083 02-16-2024, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
What next, get rid of POD cameras?
I don't know what POD cameras are. Is the cost/benefit ratio any good?
post 1697962423 02-16-2024, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
I don't know what POD cameras are. Is the cost/benefit ratio any good?
The cameras that are all over the city......

Anyway, it'll be like the old days again, hearing shots, trying to guess where they're coming from, and just waiting for someone to dial 911, and tell us if someone's been shot.....
post 1697962653 02-16-2024, 07:49 PM
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If you guys actually read the article it says the program is being ended because an internal investigation was conducted and concluded that the vast majority of reports lead to absolutely nothing by the system.
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post 1697962803 02-16-2024, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
The cameras that are all over the city......

Anyway, it'll be like the old days again, hearing shots, trying to guess where they're coming from, and just waiting for someone to dial 911, and tell us if someone's been shot.....
Like the good old days between 2004 and 2012 before they bought the system when murder was at 40 year lows? Sounds good to me.
post 1697962923 02-16-2024, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
If you guys actually read the article it says the program is being ended because an internal investigation was conducted and concluded that the vast majority of reports lead to absolutely nothing by the system.
But we want it to be about racism.
post 1697965343 02-16-2024, 09:02 PM
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So I guess the update is that shot spotter will last till September 22nd, and will follow with a two month transition period......
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Like the good old days between 2004 and 2012 before they bought the system when murder was at 40 year lows? Sounds good to me.
You mean when people actually went to jail, and the police were actually proactive? Come on tard.....
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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
If you guys actually read the article it says the program is being ended because an internal investigation was conducted and concluded that the vast majority of reports lead to absolutely nothing by the system.
Except tell us exactly where shots are being fired?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Except tell us exactly where shots are being fired?
Dave you're turning into Bushtard repeating the same thing over and over and over...

Look, if you can't understand that this thing costs OVER $200,000 PER ARREST.... not conviction.. then you're just an idiot. (but already knew that)
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Dave you're turning into Bushtard repeating the same thing over and over and over...

Look, if you can't understand that this thing costs OVER $200,000 PER ARREST.... not conviction.. then you're just an idiot. (but already knew that)
Ever think about how it tells us exactly where someone is shot? Come on Patty, think for once.

As for convictions, good luck with that, nobody gets convicted in progressive cities.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Ever think about how it tells us exactly where someone is shot? Come on Patty, think for once.

As for convictions, good luck with that, nobody gets convicted in progressive cities.
Ever think of it?...... you've repeated yourself OVER AND OVER throughout the entire thread saying THIS EXACT THING.

$200,00 per arrest Dave. This is why smart people make the decision to pull it when high school GED retards like you keep repeating yourself.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Ever think of it?...... you've repeated yourself OVER AND OVER throughout the entire thread saying THIS EXACT THING.

$200,00 per arrest Dave. This is why smart people make the decision to pull it when high school GED retards like you keep repeating yourself.
Patty, when someone is shot, every minute counts and shot spotter tells us EXACTLY where the shots are coming from, there are times where people call 911, and there are times when they don't.

There are times where officers heard shots, believing they were a few blocks away, and shot spotter informed us that they were a mile and a half away.

Interesting how someone like you supports red light cameras, and speed cameras. Despite the fact that red light cameras caused more accidents, and speed cameras affected minorities more than white people.....
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Not sure whether to believe Dave posting on a bodybuilding message board, or the city of Chicago's published data.
From quantitative analysis of ShotSpotter data and other records, OIG concludes that CPD
responses to ShotSpotter alerts rarely produce evidence of a gun-related crime, rarely give rise
to investigatory stops, and even less frequently lead to the recovery of gun crime-related
evidence during an investigatory stop. If this result is attributable in part to missing or non-
matched records of investigatory stops that did take place as a direct consequence of a
ShotSpotter alert, CPD’s record-keeping practices are obstructing a meaningful analysis of the
effectiveness of the technology.
https://igchicago.org/wp-content/upl...Technology.pdf
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Not sure whether to believe Dave posting on a bodybuilding message board, or the city of Chicago's published data.



https://igchicago.org/wp-content/upl...Technology.pdf
I'm simply telling you how accurate it is. And are you implying shot spotter won't help us when some mope is shot in an alley?

Also, the shell casings on the ground isn't evidence of a crime?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I'm simply telling you how accurate it is. And are you implying shot spotter won't help us when some mope is shot in an alley?

Also, the shell casings on the ground isn't evidence of a crime?
I don't know what to tell you man, you make claims, ask all sorts of pedantic questions and have your feelings about it, but you can't, or haven't yet, substantiated any of it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As an insider and a professional I'd expect you'd have more to contribute.


And to add, as a taxpayer, you can have anything you need to do your job as law enforcement, IDGAF what activists think, but your chit better work and if it doesn't then figure out something else that does.
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