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post 1698522313 02-29-2024, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted By truesteez
I just renewed mine a few years ago.

I been so busy with my business I haven't been able to carve out the time. Idk how people go to another country for only a week or two. I usually try to carve out like a month or 2.

But even overseas, it's the same chit. The Western degeneracy spreads like wild fire. My family is from the Balkans and even the girls you'd think are good/family oriented are messing around with immigrants and slooting it up.
What business do you run where you can take off a month or 2?
post 1698522763 02-29-2024, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By aaron501
most men need to realise they aren't going to find their life long partner online. most women that are on dating site are on there permanently, either to ride the carousal of fit men, to gain attention from low value men. If you want a relationship your best chance is to go out in the world. because 80% of good/decent woman aren't permanently online like the ones you see on tinder. think of them as the female equivalant of incel/misc. losers that aren't worth your time. They're the same kind of women you'll see when they are in their 40's+ with 5 cats asking "where are all the good men?" ignore them and leave them to their cess pit of misery
This post feels like the right answer. Yeah I can't see high quality women being online scrolling through 50 men a day.
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean
Not true because those vast majority of those men think with their dink instead of their brain, and end up with gutter trash which is similar to them, or they give up, or they settle, etc. etc.


When you are an incel or a loser (not saying you are, just in general) then almost ANY skinny woman you see you put on a pedestal and think she is amazing. When you actually increase your value to the point where you are the selector, you can really filter out all the negative traits.

To a high value man I agree that maybe 5% of women are marriage material (fit, smart, kind, not materialistic, not trashy sloot, etc.). But most men are dumb and would rather chase the hooters waitress with Double Ds instead of the girl next door and then blame all women when they end up getting cheated on
This is also a great post. The more valuable you are as a man, the higher chance you're the selector.

It's best to ask yourself what do you offer where you deserve a good woman. The guys who stay in shape, have a masculine character, and good finances usually get the top tier women
post 1698523013 02-29-2024, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
This post feels like the right answer. Yeah I can't see high quality women being online scrolling through 50 men a day.
however it seems like 99.99% of women are on social media which is basically a dating site considering how many men hit them up from behind their keyboard
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
however it seems like 99.99% of women are on social media which is basically a dating site considering how many men hit them up from behind their keyboard
It seems like it, but is that because we live online and not in the real world or you have hard solid evidence it is 99%?
post 1698523493 02-29-2024, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
It seems like it, but is that because we live online and not in the real world or you have hard solid evidence it is 99%?
any women friends or in your family under 40 and not on social media? i don't know a single one
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean
Lets not pretend like the average polyamorous couple isn't a group of 300 pound grub hub addicted freaks with degenerate piercings, tattoos, and dyke haircuts.

There are hot 'poly' couples at the top of the top .001% of society. Celebrities, billionaires, athletes, etc. basically have open permission to just sleep around. Outside of that though the highest SMV individuals (fit, upper middle class, yuppie types) 100% still prioritize marriage - albeit at a later age
Yeah, the ones that are open about it are generally degenerates simply because they aren’t smart enough to keep it a secret or simply they don’t have anything to lose to begin with so no reason to bull**** about it.

Successful people that are part of the top of the society however, yeah those aren’t going to just go around telling randoms about how they are sleeping around.



And yeah people have always prioritized marriage, even men with lots of options. They just exercise those options after married anyway.

I believe in the short term future marriage is going to be extremely rare and poly relationships are going to be the norm, particularly one HVM with multiple women, and just raising children together like a very close small community.

Monogamy in 2024 is just laughable. No point to it as a man, no need whatsoever. Women don’t need men anymore, so they won’t settle like they used to when marriage was a relative successful concept, women want the top tier man now otherwise rather be alone, that’s why top tier man are hitting such elite numbers nowadays.
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post 1698523993 02-29-2024, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By eod8989
What I don't get is how everyone is some kind of entrepreneur, public figure, influencer, model etc now. Everyone wants subscribers, donations and sponsors now too.
Exactly

you can't engage with these people now. No point.

Regular women think they are celebs and they ALL have donation links, some dumb "business"

I'm not even talking about the huge verified accounts (like the rando retard who was talkin sht about me thinks) , just 100-500 follower accounts are like this now.
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post 1698524773 02-29-2024, 02:31 PM
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I'm tall, handsome, super athletic, super smart, super hardworking.

































are you sure about that?
post 1698524963 02-29-2024, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Nicklol
Exactly

you can't engage with these people now. No point.

Regular women think they are celebs and they ALL have donation links, some dumb "business"

I'm not even talking about the huge verified accounts (like the rando retard who was talkin sht about me thinks) , just 100-500 follower accounts are like this now.
Two trends to keep track of in the future: continuation of men falling behind and AI

Social media brought women and average people to the internet in droves, and increased their value tremendously. Like anyone else here knows, a 7/10 can create an instagram account or YouTube vlog and receive the type of adoration that in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s was literally just reserved for Princess Diana, Madonna, etc. of the world. Coinciding with this, has been the popularity of feminism and the pink-washing of history. Feminism has always been a thing, but was openly mocked in the past. Better still, todays generation actually believes women were somehow second hand citizens in the past.

If your great grandma or great great grandma rose from the grave she would smack the chit out of any relative of hers spouting feminist nonsense, and for those old enough to remember people from that generation women and men viewed gender roles as duty, not as oppression. Anyways, both those trends have brought women to an all time high

AI will be the course correction to revert this to the norm. There will be no more simping on pics of an insta thot when any guy can type into AI their deepest fantasy, and have a dream woman treat them like a king. Sure, it wont be real - but neither are their relationships currently with insta sloots and OF models.

I also think as the condition of men get worse - lower rates of men with college degrees, lower rates of men with good jobs, male suicide rates and addiction rates continue to increase, etc. etc. the feminist rhetoric will become IMPOSSIBLE to sell. Of course there will be a nationwide gaslighting campaign to blame the condition of men on 'toxic masculinity' but anyone with two brain cells to rub together will know that isnt the case.

Those two things should level the playing field a bit and knock women off their currently earned pedestal
post 1698525193 02-29-2024, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Yeah, the ones that are open about it are generally degenerates simply because they aren’t smart enough to keep it a secret or simply they don’t have anything to lose to begin with so no reason to bull**** about it.

Successful people that are part of the top of the society however, yeah those aren’t going to just go around telling randoms about how they are sleeping around.



And yeah people have always prioritized marriage, even men with lots of options. They just exercise those options after married anyway.

I believe in the short term future marriage is going to be extremely rare and poly relationships are going to be the norm, particularly one HVM with multiple women, and just raising children together like a very close small community.

Monogamy in 2024 is just laughable. No point to it as a man, no need whatsoever. Women don’t need men anymore, so they won’t settle like they used to when marriage was a relative successful concept, women want the top tier man now otherwise rather be alone, that’s why top tier man are hitting such elite numbers nowadays.
i wouldn't say marriage was only about women needing men back then...there was an overarching religious component too. sex before marriage frowned upon and getting married/having a family was just what polite society did as part of a Biblical worldview. people were expected to become stable adults and married by their early-mid 20s. now we've largely thrown out God and look at the mess.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
I can't talk to anyone because they are always looking at their screens or listening to podcasts and everywhere I go there are dogs and cats. You can't have any conversation or relationship anymore because of this.
Know the feel, it's why I got a dog way back after smartphones became popular lol. People became so boring and unengaging to be around.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
any women friends or in your family under 40 and not on social media? i don't know a single one
Bro everywhere i go people are on social media. You can't do anything anymore. Idk how anyone is having relationships or getting stuff done irl nowadays. It's just like that Dreamshade video. Even the lyrics are 100% spot on and this was released over 3 years ago.

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post 1698525633 02-29-2024, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
it's over for any man currently alive that isn't a chad. perhaps over the next 75 years the war to be fought will be restoring order for future generations. at this point in the battle society has been decimated.
Chad's deal with the same low quality that OP is talking about bro. The state of women in general is low quality. Chad just has more access to it while sub-Chad has to simp just to even have one of these lower quality sloots look his way.

I don't think Chad is really any better off in terms of finding a quality partner though.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
What I don't get is how everyone is some kind of entrepreneur, public figure, influencer, model etc now. Everyone wants subscribers, donations and sponsors now too.
Spoiler: it's all bullchit. Smoke and mirrors. Everyone is trying to put on a front these days, pretending like they are far more popular and important than they are. Heck internet popularity has become fake as hell these days with all the bots and people being paid to promote whatever. All these people are simply stuck in their own little worlds they have created for themselves where they are something they are not.
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I spoke to a woman chaplain the other week and even she agreed that modern women were trash/garbage. she was like 75 lmfao. I made a comment and she was like *sigh* "yeah, I know... I don't know what happened"
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When i was dating girls 10 yrs ago, I just walked up to them and asked them out, dating apps weren't really taking off just yet or mainstream.

Now? Any girl on dating apps thats over a 5 in looks thinks shes Madison Beer. I've gotten hundreds of matches since my time on dating apps. There's probably 1% of women that are quality on there, the rest are going to remain single, unmarried.

There are women on there that I remember swiping probably 2 yrs ago, I got off the app and came back and saw the same women. Either they got into a 1 yr and broke it off or are still out there looking.

I've been on dates with girls who have told me they have been on a HUNDRED DATES.....

Most of these girls nowadays don't want children, want a career, don't cook, don't clean, don't have any sense on what to bring in a relationship other than looking good.

To make matters WORSE, you have SIMPS that are adding fuel to the fire. Go on twitch, any girl with her tits out has hundreds if not thousands of subscribers from lonely men paying them money for doing nothing.

Your best bet is to find religious women or find through network of family/friends thats down to earth and not on instagram looking to be the next yaaass queen.
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Originally Posted By BigGuyTruth
I spoke to a woman chaplain the other week and even she agreed that modern women were trash/garbage. she was like 75 lmfao. I made a comment and she was like *sigh* "yeah, I know... I don't know what happened"
It's funny how the more boomers are aware of what today's young women are like, the more they agree with them being trash lol. A lot of them are really out of touch though, especially the men, having spent most of their life being with boomer women.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Know the feel, it's why I got a dog way back after smartphones became popular lol. People became so boring and unengaging to be around.
I think a lot of people are getting dogs and cats for companionship these days since it's so hard to find irl. I like all dogs but pitbulls. But a lot of people have pits lol.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
I think a lot of people are getting dogs and cats for companionship these days since it's so hard to find irl. I like all dogs but pitbulls. But a lot of people have pits lol.
Pits always seem to be a really low class thing, you tend to only find people in poor neighborhoods, or from a poor background being fans of them. Definitely a dog that is most popular around certain specific demographics.

My dogs of choice have always been cavaliers, a lot of people around me seem to love labs and other retrievers. Frenchies seem to be popular among people who want a smaller dog that isn't one of those super small teacup handbag dogs. That's one of the things I like about cavs, they're small enough to be easy to take around, but big enough to not be one of those small yappy dogs.
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Originally Posted By longfellowdeeds
When i was dating girls 10 yrs ago, I just walked up to them and asked them out, dating apps weren't really taking off just yet or mainstream.

Now? Any girl on dating apps thats over a 5 in looks thinks shes Madison Beer. I've gotten hundreds of matches since my time on dating apps. There's probably 1% of women that are quality on there, the rest are going to remain single, unmarried.

There are women on there that I remember swiping probably 2 yrs ago, I got off the app and came back and saw the same women. Either they got into a 1 yr and broke it off or are still out there looking.

I've been on dates with girls who have told me they have been on a HUNDRED DATES.....

Most of these girls nowadays don't want children, want a career, don't cook, don't clean, don't have any sense on what to bring in a relationship other than looking good.

To make matters WORSE, you have SIMPS that are adding fuel to the fire. Go on twitch, any girl with her tits out has hundreds if not thousands of subscribers from lonely men paying them money for doing nothing.

Your best bet is to find religious women or find through network of family/friends thats down to earth and not on instagram looking to be the next yaaass queen.
About 10-11 years ago you could go out and meet people pretty easily. It's impossible now because of social media and apps. I have said this before but have no idea how 80% of men are even dating. Or how anything is even functioning tbh.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
i wouldn't say marriage was only about women needing men back then...there was an overarching religious component too. sex before marriage frowned upon and getting married/having a family was just what polite society did as part of a Biblical worldview. people were expected to become stable adults and married by their early-mid 20s. now we've largely thrown out God and look at the mess.
It wasnt only about that, but it was probably the factor that mattered the most, its the reason why marriage was a relatively successful concept as crazy and unnatural as it is on paper.

If women need men, then they will have to select from their potential options and do it soonish in their lives rather than later, because again, they need a man for different factors, such as security, finances, kids, etc. When the roles were clear, women needed men, and thats why marriages were successful.

What happens now in 2024? Women dont need men, they make their money, and they get attention from SIMPS online, more attention than prime 10/10 women got just a few decades ago. So since women dont need men, that means they go for the menthey want. And when every women wants basically the same small % of men, thats when things like dating and courting go to ****.

Also, men dont need women either, especially attractive men. Women today give the pussy up FAST and OFTEN, with basically zero commitment expected in return. They fuk first, then ask questions later. This dynamic just makes relationships and especially marriage rarer and more obsolete than ever. To expect men that can get laid frequently, to just give that up and bet his finances and his happiness on just one woman for the rest of his life, yeah thats gonna make men raise their standards to the sky as well. It better be a damn good woman if hes gonna give that freedom away.



And yeah, socially and religiously, marriage was seen as sacred and casual sex and promiscuity was heavily frowned upon. Those things have changed of course, back then the town's sloot had slept with 5 guys at age 20, now the good girl has slept with 5 guys at age 20 and the towns sloot has slept with a couple hundred lol.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Pits always seem to be a really low class thing, you tend to only find people in poor neighborhoods, or from a poor background being fans of them. Definitely a dog that is most popular around certain specific demographics.

My dogs of choice have always been cavaliers, a lot of people around me seem to love labs and other retrievers. Frenchies seem to be popular among people who want a smaller dog that isn't one of those super small teacup handbag dogs. That's one of the things I like about cavs, they're small enough to be easy to take around, but big enough to not be one of those small yappy dogs.
We have lots of pits around here. I like labs, retrievers and smaller dogs like beagles, yorkies or dachshunds. Those are all cool dogs. Not sure i've seen too many Cavaliers. I've seen too many bigger dogs get aggressive lately so don't really want to be around them.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
About 10-11 years ago you could go out and meet people pretty easily. It's impossible now because of social media and apps. I have said this before but have no idea how 80% of men are even dating. Or how anything is even functioning tbh.
EOD how did you meet your girlfriend?
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
It wasnt only about that, but it was probably the factor that mattered the most, its the reason why marriage was a relatively successful concept as crazy and unnatural as it is on paper.

If women need men, then they will have to select from their potential options and do it soonish in their lives rather than later, because again, they need a man for different factors, such as security, finances, kids, etc. When the roles were clear, women needed men, and thats why marriages were successful.

What happens now in 2024? Women dont need men, they make their money, and they get attention from SIMPS online, more attention than prime 10/10 women got just a few decades ago. So since women dont need men, that means they go for the menthey want. And when every women wants basically the same small % of men, thats when things like dating and courting go to ****.

Also, men dont need women either, especially attractive men. Women today give the pussy up FAST and OFTEN, with basically zero commitment expected in return. They fuk first, then ask questions later. This dynamic just makes relationships and especially marriage rarer and more obsolete than ever. To expect men that can get laid frequently, to just give that up and bet his finances and his happiness on just one woman for the rest of his life, yeah thats gonna make men raise their standards to the sky as well. It better be a damn good woman if hes gonna give that freedom away.



And yeah, socially and religiously, marriage was seen as sacred and casual sex and promiscuity was heavily frowned upon. Those things have changed of course, back then the town's sloot had slept with 5 guys at age 20, now the good girl has slept with 5 guys at age 20 and the towns sloot has slept with a couple hundred lol.
Ken-O, so what are Sub-5 men like me suppose to do?

I'm ugly, 5'10, and ****** I'm like a 3. What do I do?
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