I don't think the issue is that a lot of them will molest/rape the girls/women that they share a locker room with. The issue is that such a policy makes a large portion of women uncomfortable in order to cater to a small number of mentally ill men. HS and college girls don't want to change in a locker room where a "transwoman" is walking around with a schlong clanging around or with the absence of a schlong just a frankenstein looking gash on his crotch.

A person born with XY chromosome, a penis, a prostate, and testicles will never be a women. A person born with XX chromosome, a uterus, a vagina, and ovaries will never be a man. Doesn't matter how many unnatural hormones they get pumped into their bodies or how many surgeries to fashion frankenstein body parts they get. And anyone who tells them otherwise is enabling mental illness. It's no different than telling a schizophrenic that you hear and see the same hallucinations that he does, to help him feel better. In both cases it will make a person feel better in the moment in the short term, but is harmful in the long term both on the individual and societal levels.

If someone is raped and accuses a particular priest, that creates what we call probable cause to warrant an investigation of that priest, and possibly associates if there are other complaints and there is evidence of a coverup.

Everyone else is the cultist for daring to think independently in terms of logic, rationality, and, uh, basic-ass-human-biology.

There have been ample precedents of mentally deranged men exploiting these ideological games to their own perverse means at the expense of biological women and children. The latter are rejecting these inroads for exploitation, but somehow it is the peopledefending women and their rights to biological autonomyin the wake of degeneracy who are in the wrong.


We wouldn't have this mess, so...

Transgenders have always made people uncomfortable simply by existing. That internalized transphobia is a barrier we need to shatter as a society in our quest to make a more just and egalitarian one. All the rules still apply. A predator is still a predator and will face the same legal consequences as before. Also, trans are more likely to be victims of assault than perps.

Furthermore, you are wrong about the nature of transgenderism. There are biological causes.

Thieves, rapists, murderers, schizos, socios and bums just generally violent and mentally ill people make folks uncomfortable and there is nothing wrong with that, I think there is something wrong with someone trying to change that.

Transgenders have always made people uncomfortable simply by existing. That internalized transphobia is a barrier we need to shatter as a society in our quest to make a more just and egalitarian one. All the rules still apply. A predator is still a predator and will face the same legal consequences as before. Also, trans are more likely to be victims of assault than perps.

Furthermore, you are wrong about the nature of transgenderism. There are biological causes.

Interesting gaslighting and naivety combo. No one cared about trannies a decade ago. They created the rising angst themselves with the pronouns game and targeting children. And more recently in cheating by competing against women in sports and declaring they can be in a women's locker/bathroom. A dude who says he identifies as a woman is still infinitely more of a physical threat to women than other women are.

And I don't even think most of the trans issue pushing the envelope is coming from trans people, it's from Left leaning authoritarians who want a cause to belong to, because their personal lives are more empty, people with an existential crisis brewing in them. Today it's trannies, tomorrow it's stop oil, next month it will be whatever is trendy.

Again, not talking about assault/rape; I think at least the two of us are on the same page on that one. Trannies are mentally ill, but everyone should have protection against assault and if that happens the predators will still face the same legal consequences.

Women should not have to share a bathroom or a locker room with men. Period. Women in general don't want to be exposed to penises or the remains of penises. If a business wants to have their bathroom situation a certain way that's their prerogative, and people can choose to use a different bathroom if they are out in public at that business. However in an academic/athletic environment, there is no choice there, and those young women should not be forced to share a bathroom or a locker room with a "transwoman."

I'm not wrong at all on transgenderism. There are biological causes for all mental illnesses. None of them should be enabled or normalized.

So dumb. It's always the low IQ that instantly jump to p3do accusations because they've been brainwashed by their chit right wing fearmongering "news" sources.

I dunno. I suspect at least some of the current politics around gender dysphoria is because they've been made an enemy of traditional values by populists looking for an enemy against which to rally their base.

Dude, are you not at all concerned this administration is actively taking rights away from women?

Wtf? Title 9 was designedforwomen.

And? Those are criminals. Blacks used to make people uncomfortable. Menstruating women used to make people uncomfortable. Left handed people used to make people uncomfortable. Nazis make me uncomfortable. Can I get rid of them? Pwetty pwease? uwu

lmao how is it normalized to have gender neutral bathrooms and a changing stall put in? You bigots are hysterical. Also, labeling it a mental illness doesn't magically make it go away. People thought being gay was a mental illness. That doesn't negate the validity of gay marriage and equal rights for gays. There is no legal justification for why trans people can't use the fuking bathroom, and all these complaints are beyond hysterical. In many other countries, locker rooms aren't even segregated and no one cares. It isn't a big deal. A bunch of bigots and Karens are crying about it, but nobody else gives a chit, and when the dust settles, trans people will be allowed to use whatever bathroom. The only place where discrimination is logical is for mtf in womens' sports due to advantages. That's literally it.

Of course it doesn't make it go away, but labeling something a mental illness identifies it as an abnormality that needs to be treated or managed. Again schizophrenics/OCDs/bipolars are not going to go away or have their symptoms magically vanish, but through proper treatment and therapy they can regulate their behavior. If a man claims to identify as a woman, then chopping off his penis and pretending to be a woman is the opposite of regulating. It's the behavior of psychosis.

There is no such thing as gay marriage and that was a mistake as well. Marriage is man + woman. I get the tax and legal benefit argument, but that could have all been solved by either establishing a separate status for civil unions that get those benefits, or abolishing them for everyone and then people can just name whoever they want as their health proxy, will beneficiary, et cetera. But they deliberately INSISTED on the word marriage being applied to them in order to manipulate language and undermine religion.

No one is saying trannies can't use a bathroom and I don't know where you're getting that from. They should use the bathroom of their actual gender (aka their sex), or if they are uncomfortable and mentally unable to do that then a separate bathroom should be established specifically for trannies. But making women share that space with "transwomen" especially in the context of a locker room should absolutely never be allowed.

Men being attracted to other men is not equivalent to someone believing they are something they are not, removing healthy portions of their body and then demanding you play along with them while placing you under threat lol even straight men view some men as attractive, there is nothing wrong with that.

Why are trannys even grouped with gays and lesbians lol they are not the same.

It seems they are trying to ride on gay acceptance lol.

Elaborate on "placing you under threat". Explain how trans people threaten your life. What a crock of chit.

Can we stay where we were in the discussion before we move on?

Lets talk about hows gays and trannys are not the same first.

Why are they hiding behind gays?

Homosexuality is natural in the animal world and serves a purpose but you don't see a buck trying to breastfeed a fawn or chop off its antlers lol

But you do see some animals behaving like the opposite gender. They are trans.

Because gay people understand what it means to be persecuted and then have the label of being mentally ill used to deny them their rights.

Same reason the Irish defend Palestine. When you have been oppressed, you live in solidarity with other oppressed.

Men being attracted to other men is not equivalent to someone believing they are something they are not, removing healthy portions of their body and then demanding you play along with them while placing you under threat lol even straight men view some men as attractive, there is nothing wrong with that.

Why are trannys even grouped with gays and lesbians lol they are not the same.

It seems they are trying to ride on gay acceptance lol.

They are gay lol these aren't tranny deer lol.



I guess we should add a B to LGBTQ then lol.

Except gender affirming care isn't effective. Transgenderism or gender dysphoria or whatever you want to call it is going to be a lifelong condition that a person struggles with and that causes depression and anxiety. And it's going to be like that with any mental illness of that severity. Sometimes there is significant improvement but it will always be there. Other times improvement is minimal. It sucks but it's just the hand that some people are dealt.

Ok. I don't think they should be erased or harassed or abused, but I also don't think there should be a society-wide enabling of the condition. Making them schit outside is obviously inhumane and I disagree with that. I think we should have male and female bathrooms that correspond to sex. If someone feels that he falls outside of that, there should be a transgender bathroom for those people.

I perused the article you posted and I'll touch on a couple highlights. First is the Florida book ban. If that stuff is available for purchase or a public library I have no problem with it. I do think it should be age blocked in public libraries though, maybe have them on a list that a parent has to be with a minor in order for them to check it out of the library. As for books in schools and in school libraries, I'm of the mindset that sexuality shouldn't be discussed in schools at all (homo, hetero, or otherwise) either by staff or by media provided. If a parent doesn't want their child exposed to content like that then that's the parent's prerogative. For parent's that would like assistance in breaching such topics with their kids, perhaps schools should offer a special class that parents have to opt-in for their kids to attend, with the option of parents attending as well. That's for material that specifically discusses those topics though. Another thing the article brought up was just a movie or show that happens to feature a gay or transgender person. In that case I don't think it's possible or even a good idea to ban things like that. I mean you're going to see gay people out in the world. Teachers should be telling parents the material that they are showing students anyways. If a parent wants to provide context or explanation to their kids for content that they feel is manipulative or subversive then they are free to do so. But I don't think it's a good idea to start making lists of movies and books with gay characters and compiling a ban list, or entertaining lawsuits that feature such media. It's probably also impossible to find a group of people who would agree on all the items on such a list anyways. Obviously keep porn and sex content out of schools. But beyond that if it's just a book that has a gay character it should stay.

The other item from the article that I will touch on is gender affirming care. As you already know, my opinion is that such care is hocum and psychotic. However if an adult wants to do whatever to his body then I'm not going to stop him. I do think that surgery in the very least should be limited to adults though, and I'm as yet undecided on hormone therapy, although parental consent should absolutely be required for that treatment.

Finally, on gay unions, again I'm fine with them receiving equal tax benefits. From what I remember it was an offer on the table to establish civil unions with the same financial benefits, however certain people insisted on marriage. I could be wrong though and my memory on this might have faded to time as I was in HS and college when that was first getting hammered out so I was paying attention to a lot of other things at the time. I still don't think it should be called marriage, but if in fact all they wanted was a union that provided the same financial benefits, then I will yield that point.

And the next day after that, Jake clarified that “he” is actually a “she”, and we apologized profusely, and arrested Josie.


Evidently, it’s come full circle.

In the short term maybe. In the long term they're going to be unhappy with or without it though.