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08-20-2024, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted By estrogenbro
Wrong.

When Biden ran he said he would be a one term President - and we all knew he would be too old for a second.
No you didn't.

You all - each and every single one of you made excuses for and defended him. Right up until the debate when he embarrassed TF out of you and you had to act surprised over his cognitive decline.

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Now answer me this. If Biden had been replaced with someone even less likely to beat Trump than Biden after the first debate would you all bitching about “Democracy?”
I was certainly no fan of Bernie's, but I'm on record plenty of times here saying he was fuked over by the DNC in 2016.

No Berniebots seemed to give AF though, so…
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08-20-2024, 09:44 AM
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No you didn't.

You all - each and every single one of you made excuses for and defended him. Right up until the debate when he embarrassed TF out of you and you had to act surprised over his cognitive decline.
It's all about the revisionist history, remember when it was supposed to be "her turn" and then claimed they never voted for Hillary and said she was the worst candidate to run in history?

Seriously? In history?
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08-20-2024, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
No you didn't.

You all - each and every single one of you made excuses for and defended him. Right up until the debate when he embarrassed TF out of you and you had to act surprised over his cognitive decline.



I was certainly no fan of Bernie's, but I'm on record plenty of times here saying he was fuked over by the DNC in 2016.

No Berniebots seemed to give AF though, so…
He was ****ed over in 2016, 2020, 2024…..

But hey, nothing another beach house won't fix…..
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08-20-2024, 09:48 AM
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He was ****ed over in 2016, 2020, 2024…..

But hey, nothing another beach house won't fix…..
It was some of the weirdest shiit I've ever seen. The DNC made him their bitch boy, shoved Hillary down his throat and made him support her - and not a single one of his Berniebots could even find one single fuk to give.

Instead they just rolled over and pledged allegiance to Hillary right along with him lol.
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08-20-2024, 09:53 AM
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It was some of the weirdest shiit I've ever seen. The DNC made him their bitch boy, shoved Hillary down his throat and made him support her - and not a single one of his Berniebots could even find one single fuk to give.

Instead they just rolled over and pledged allegiance to Hillary right along with him lol.
I wonder how much test a frail woman in a relationship with a woman-beater has. Probably more than the average Berniebro, she might be less abused as well.
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08-20-2024, 10:25 AM
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So, joe is back in as the nominee or nah?
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08-20-2024, 10:38 AM
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So, joe is back in as the nominee or nah?
No. Just a few misc soymales having one last fantasy about how popular he is/was.
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08-20-2024, 10:44 AM
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No. Just a few misc soymales having one last fantasy about how popular he is/was.
They can't decide between him being forced to step down, or he willingly stepped down.
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08-20-2024, 11:14 AM
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Not to get in-between you and Nutsy, but you can't do this kind of thing.

This idea that a politician says something and then cite it as evidence or proof of anything, because here – Biden clearly meant otherwise when he began to ramp up his reelection campaign prior to his sudden withdrawal and endorsement of Kamala. They all talk out of both sides of their mouth, to cherry pick one thing they say, particularly here when his own actions which were much more recent directly contradict it – that doesn't add
Right, sure, who knows if he was always lying or just couldn’t let go as his term was winding down. But I voted for a one term Biden, because being almost 90 after a second term is way too old.

So I’m getting exactly what I voted for, and anyone who was willing to vote for Biden’s second term was - basically - voting for some amount of a Harris term.

That should also matter to those voting Trump. He’s old, fat, eats like sht, is a rageaholic and doesn’t workout. He could literally drop dead at any moment and then we get Vance.

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. Wasn't to me but, yes and no. My response would be no different than it is now, rather.

The Democrats showed who they were in 2016 with the superdelegates and overriding their own voters to shove Hillary on the ticket. This is no worse than that, at least the guy who won is endorsing someone and it's an unusual set of circumstances w/ the guy on the ticket needing to step down long after the primaries.

What are they supposed to do? Hold another round of primaries? No, they need a candidate to hit the ground campaigning and getting donations. They want to win, after all. I don't think shoving Kamala is that big a deal, she was #2 already anyway.
Ok, I can respect that. But also keep in mind the DNC is a private club. Nobody has to vote for their candidate.
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08-20-2024, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
In a democracy, you just pick your successor?
Utter lack of basic civics 101 is totally fine for a cop.
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08-20-2024, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
No you didn't.

You all - each and every single one of you made excuses for and defended him. Right up until the debate when he embarrassed TF out of you and you had to act surprised over his cognitive decline.
I ALWAYS said Biden, and Trump, were way too old. I didn’t think Biden’s mental health was despositive until the first debate and then I started calling for him to be replaced.

Facts.
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08-20-2024, 11:18 AM
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Haven't watched it yet, I did see a right-wing source suggest he peddled known misinformation and lies.

Not to pick on Derp, but why are people so like this? The same people screaming about Trump telling lies, which he does, but they then applaud and get excited when Joe tells bullchit.

Do you care about politicians being honest or not?
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Is this how you justify supporting a pathological liar. "Sure well the garbage mainstream news networks lie, so it's ok that Drumpf does!1" Low IQ individual you are.
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08-20-2024, 11:20 AM
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They can't decide between him being forced to step down, or he willingly stepped down.
We don’t care. I just want to beat Trump. Biden wasn’t going to get the job done, so he had to go.

Not to mention that the reason he had to step aside was his declining mental state - maybe someone had to take him aside and shake some reality into him. Fine, that happens, I hope his wife and family take good care of him in retirement.
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08-20-2024, 11:26 AM
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Utter lack of basic civics 101 is totally fine for a cop.
Okay Mr. Lawyer, was Biden forced out, or did he willingly drop out, and if he knew he was gonna be a one term president, like you're claiming, why cancel the Democratic primaries?
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08-20-2024, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
It was some of the weirdest shiit I've ever seen. The DNC made him their bitch boy, shoved Hillary down his throat and made him support her - and not a single one of his Berniebots could even find one single fuk to give.

Instead they just rolled over and pledged allegiance to Hillary right along with him lol.

LOL, please, Trump insulted Ted Cruz's wife and implied his father was involved in JFK's assassination. Cancun Cruz still kissed the ring.
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08-20-2024, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
We don’t care. I just want to beat Trump. Biden wasn’t going to get the job done, so he had to go.

Not to mention that the reason he had to step aside was his declining mental state - maybe someone had to take him aside and shake some reality into him. Fine, that happens, I hope his wife and family take good care of him in retirement.
Riiiight, because he didn't have a declining mental state in 2020, 2021, 2022, or 2023, it suddenly came out of nowhere in 2024……
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08-20-2024, 11:31 AM
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Okay Mr. Lawyer, was Biden forced out, or did he willingly drop out, and if he knew he was gonna be a one term president, like you're claiming, why cancel the Democratic primaries?
Ask and answered. Answer my question to you.
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08-20-2024, 11:32 AM
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In a democracy, you just pick your successor?

Mall Cop Dave finally figuring out the role of a Vice Presidential candidate. LMAO



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Okay Mr. Lawyer, was Biden forced out, or did he willingly drop out, and if he knew he was gonna be a one term president, like you're claiming, why cancel the Democratic primaries?


The only states that didn't vote in the Democratic Primaries were Florida and Delaware. Try again. Dave.
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08-20-2024, 11:34 AM
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Riiiight, because he didn't have a declining mental state in 2020, 2021, 2022, or 2023, it suddenly came out of nowhere in 2024……
You mean the Biden that beat Trump like a rented mule? Yes, the 2024 debate Biden was far different.

We all breathed a sigh of relief when he announced he wouldn’t run again.
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08-20-2024, 11:36 AM
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You mean the Biden that beat Trump like a rented mule? Yes, the 2024 debate Biden was far different.

We all breathed a sigh of relief when he announced he wouldn’t run again.
Oh yeah, because he was mentally sharp in 2020, remember all the scripted interviews? The canceled press conferences when he would start to mutter incoherently? Literally reading the teleprompter, word for word?
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08-20-2024, 11:37 AM
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Mall Cop Dave finally figuring out the role of a Vice Presidential candidate. LMAO







The only states that didn't vote in the Democratic Primaries were Florida and Delaware. Try again. Dave.
If he was only gonna be a one term president, then why cancel the Democratic primaries? Can you answer that question, Mr. 68?
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08-20-2024, 11:43 AM
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Oh yeah, because he was mentally sharp in 2020, remember all the scripted interviews? The canceled press conferences when he would start to mutter incoherently? Literally reading the teleprompter, word for word?
Answer my question before you pose any more to me.
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08-20-2024, 11:46 AM
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Answer my question before you pose any more to me.
Yeah, he did AMAZING in the 2020 debates, and his presidency was amazing as well, I mean, "he" defeated Covid….
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08-20-2024, 11:53 AM
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We don’t care. I just want to beat Trump. Biden wasn’t going to get the job done, so he had to go.

Not to mention that the reason he had to step aside was his declining mental state - maybe someone had to take him aside and shake some reality into him. Fine, that happens, I hope his wife and family take good care of him in retirement.
In my conspiratorial mind, my theory - it doesn't matter in most cases, especially inner party (I'd even go further and suggest that there isn't this world of difference between most Republicans and Democrats…).

Harris, Biden, <<Insert someone else>>, they might get some free reign to shape a few policy ideas, but little chance any of them are making a lot of the big decisions. The things that simply do not change regardless of who gets in: Military industrial complex, Israel, foreign policy, massive spending, massive surveillance state, etc… Ron Paul could get elected tomorrow, some things might actually shift, but at least 9 out of 10 times when he tried to do anything (and, realistically more like 49 out of 50), but both parties would unite to shut him down. We saw a little bit of that with Trump, just a little, and Trump is no Ron Paul, but he also was not able to make as big an impact as maybe he thought (if he ever did) when it came down to it.

In that light, might as well support Harris, if someone thinks like you and leans a little left, is okay with 2020-2024 Joe and such.
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08-20-2024, 11:53 AM
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Yeah, he did AMAZING in the 2020 debates, and his presidency was amazing as well, I mean, "he" defeated Covid….
He beat Trump. He wasn’t going to in 2024. That’s what we care about. It’s really really simple.
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In my conspiratorial mind, my theory - it doesn't matter in most cases, especially inner party (I'd even go further and suggest that there isn't this world of difference between most Republicans and Democrats…).

Harris, Biden, <<Insert someone else>>, they might get some free reign to shape a few policy ideas, but little chance any of them are making a lot of the big decisions. The things that simply do not change regardless of who gets in: Military industrial complex, Israel, foreign policy, massive spending, massive surveillance state, etc… Ron Paul could get elected tomorrow, some things might actually shift, but at least 9 out of 10 times when he tried to do anything (and, realistically more like 49 out of 50), but both parties would unite to shut him down. We saw a little bit of that with Trump, just a little, and Trump is no Ron Paul, but he also was not able to make as big an impact as maybe he thought (if he ever did) when it came down to it.

In that light, might as well support Harris, if someone thinks like you and leans a little left, is okay with 2020-2024 Joe and such.
Add to that list immigration. But the parties are not the same. One example, certainly not the only, but if Hillary had appointed the SC justices that Trump did the country would be a very different place for the next 20-30 years.
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08-20-2024, 11:57 AM
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If he was only gonna be a one term president, then he wouldn't have debated Trump, and he wouldn't have canceled the Democratic primaries.

If the Democratic primaries weren't canceled, would last place Harris be the nominee?

No…no…he clearly debated Drumpf and was campaigning with full intention of being a "one term president".

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The Roman senators cheered on Julius Caesar before they knifed him in the back.
Some of you are beyond the loony bin.
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08-20-2024, 12:01 PM
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No…no…he clearly debated Drumpf and was campaigning with full intention of being a "one term president".

JFL.
We don’t know what he thought. But he campaigned on being a “transition” President. Standing next to Harris he said he was a “bridge” “not as anything else.”

That’s not the language of someone running for his full office, and that’s how we took it.
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