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Originally Posted By CalmWind
THERE IS MORE TO PUNCHING THAN JUST HITTING HARD. Marciano could actually LAND his punches. Don't compare two different fighters. Shavers wasn't as good as Marciano.

AGAIN.... 49 wins, 43 KOs.

That's a better KO rate than Tyson and Ali.
Brah, you are aware Ali didnt even fight almost 4 years of his prime (between 25 and 29) his decisions and KOs would be even more gaudy if he did.
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Tyson was 5'10, did he get destroyed? No, he KO'd the **** out of everyone

Marciano was 5'11..... suddenly he's too small and unathletic? 49 wins, 43 KOs, 0 losses.

Marciano only undefeated heavyweight boxer in history, best KO rate.... "brb Ali was goat"

Racism.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
Joe was out of his prime but his height didn't save him.

Tyson was much shorter than a lot of guys he KO'd.

That doesn't mean ****. You have no argument on Rocky, except "hes unathletic compared to the BIG STRONG DUDES WE HAVE NOW"

You're throwing away a perfect heavyweight record, with the highest KO rate.... because of what?

Listen to yourself, racist.
lol now you're just saying sh*t to say it. tyson fought nobody but bums too, just like rocky. tyson fought spinks and holmes as his only good fights, rocky fought charles and moore who was also old as fuk. louis was old as fuk and still gave rocky a ton of trouble with his jab

name a single natural 200 lb+ fighter he fought and beat. i'll wait

rocky is about as overrated by you as JCC is by super prideful mexicans. except he went undefeated WAY longer than the rock did
Originally Posted By CalmWind
Tyson was 5'10, did he get destroyed? No, he KO'd the **** out of everyone

Marciano was 5'11..... suddenly he's too small and unathletic? 49 wins, 43 KOs, 0 losses.

Marciano only undefeated heavyweight boxer in history, best KO rate.... "brb Ali was goat"

Racism.
holmes and spinks aside, tyson fought bums his entire career you fuking idiot. the few times he fought real boxers he got destroyed.

dude just shut the fuk up already, you know nothing about boxing
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Originally Posted By tonyparker69
lol now you're just saying sh*t to say it. tyson fought nobody but bums too, just like rocky. tyson fought spinks and holmes as his only good fights, rocky fought charles and moore who was also old as fuk. louis was old as fuk and still gave rocky a ton of trouble with his jab

name a single natural 200 lb+ fighter he fought and beat. i'll wait

rocky is about as overrated by you as JCC is by super prideful mexicans. except he went undefeated WAY longer than the rock did



tyson fought bums his entire career you fuking idiot. the few times he fought real boxers he got destroyed.

dude just shut the fuk up already, you know nothing about boxing
don't argue with him, he's clearly trolling. Rocky Marciano is an all-time great heavyweight. Truly a legend of all eras. But everyone knows that he fought over the hill HWY and guys who were plumbers part time. He couldn't handle a few rounds with the Nortons, Fraziers, Ali's, Foremans, etc... even the journeymen would have taken his zero away.

I'm not going to bad mouth Marciano though, 49-0 legend
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just gotta say it Tyson is GOAT
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
Career Knockout rate :

Rocky Marciano : 88%
Mike Tyson : 78%
Muhammad Ali : 66%
Originally Posted By CalmWind
49-0, 43 KO's.

All he needed was 1 punch to KO ANYONE.

He would have KO'd Ali too.
Originally Posted By CalmWind
Joe was out of his prime but his height didn't save him.

Tyson was much shorter than a lot of guys he KO'd.

That doesn't mean ****. You have no argument on Rocky, except "hes unathletic compared to the BIG STRONG DUDES WE HAVE NOW"

You're throwing away a perfect heavyweight record, with thehighest KO rate.... because of what? Marciano was taller than Tyson. Did Tyson have trouble KO'ing people?

Listen to yourself, racist.
Deontay Wilder - 97.2%
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Originally Posted By Theboy314
Deontay Wilder - 97.2%
Is Wilders percentage really that high? I didn't know he had that many stoppages on his record. Pretty impressive, but HWY is really low rn. Can't wait for a future fight with him and Joshua once he gets more fights under him
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Originally Posted By Theboy314
Deontay Wilder - 97.2%
yeah but he's at 36 wins. Still needs to get to the finish line.
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Originally Posted By Writingbrah
Is Wilders percentage really that high? I didn't know he had that many stoppages on his record. Pretty impressive, but HWY is really low rn. Can't wait for a future fight with him and Joshua once he gets more fights under him
what is HWY? what do you mean

and he has double the fights Joshua has
Originally Posted By CalmWind
yeah but he's at 36 wins. Still needs to get to the finish line.
13 Fights away so hes well on his way,

and more importantly (Since knockouts in heavyweight division are pretty common) let's not forget the monster

Gennady Golovkin
91.4% knockout rate in middleweight division with 35 fights
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
Tyson was 5'10, did he get destroyed? No, he KO'd the **** out of everyone

Marciano was 5'11..... suddenly he's too small and unathletic? 49 wins, 43 KOs, 0 losses.

Marciano only undefeated heavyweight boxer in history, best KO rate.... "brb Ali was goat"

Racism.
Brah you come into a RIP thread, with zero respect, trying to stir chit and call people racists for saying Ali was GOAT. Im ok with you thinking Rocky was better, I do not in any way agree, but just let it slide and dont act like youre an assburger. I negged you because youre disrespectful AF, guy just passed away and you come in here acting up. Lol at you negging me back "mine hurts more" ok brah you seem real secure with yourself. Maybe aware yourself of what RIP stands for, and take your battle elsewhere.
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Originally Posted By Theboy314
what is HWY? what do you mean

and he has double the fights Joshua has



13 Fights away so hes well on his way,

and more importantly (Since knockouts in heavyweight division are pretty common) let's not forget the monster

Gennady Golovkin
91.4% knockout rate in middleweight division with 35 fights
nah, because Marciano was also undisputed champ.

Wilder needs to fight Tyson Fury.
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the guy just passed away and we got some guy Calmwind trying to hijack the thread about Rocky Marciano. First off show some respect and second Ali would've destroyed him mentally before the fight even began. fk outta here
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This saddens me deeply.

He was a great man, a great American and a great individual.
He meant so much to so many people outside the sport that made him famous.
He did the best he could in an out of the ring and left a legacy, just as a human, that many of us could only be so fortunate to leave behind.
I'm a Muslim American and as both, respectively, I can say we lost a great. A great Muslim and a great American. Subhanallah.
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serious question , is rocky a real boxer according to page 1?? i thought it was a movie.. wtf (srs...)
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Originally Posted By zonee2k
Brah you come into a RIP thread, with zero respect, trying to stir chit and call people racists for saying Ali was GOAT. Im ok with you thinking Rocky was better, I do not in any way agree, but just let it slide and dont act like youre an assburger. I negged you because youre disrespectful AF, guy just passed away and you come in here acting up. Lol at you negging me back "mine hurts more" ok brah you seem like real with yourself. Maybe aware yourself of what RIP stands for, and take your battle elsewhere.
OP shouldn't have put "GOAT" in title if he didn't want a boxing discussion. This is a forum.


And you should agree. You've got no reason to hate on Marciano except for inventing a criticism that he would be too small. That's an unfounded opinion. No proof to it.

What we do have, is a career that towers above everyone else.
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Originally Posted By benyu
serious question , is rocky a real boxer according to page 1?? i thought it was a movie.. wtf (srs...)
Stallone was inspired by the real boxing legend Rocky Marciano, when he wrote the script for the Rocky movies.

The real Rocky Marciano is the only undefeated heavyweight boxing champion in HISTORY, and he's hated on because he's white.

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Originally Posted By ShreddedTea
There's always that one toxic cuck in every thread..
Do you need a safe space? get the estrogen out of your system *******. This is a forum.

Ali was not the GOAT
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
Do you need a safe space? get the estrogen out of your system *******. This is a forum.
Lol @ you mocking SJW terminology WHILE crying racism at the same time.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
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Forums are serious bizniz
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
Stallone was inspired by the real boxing legend Rocky Marciano, when he wrote the script for the Rocky movies.

The real Rocky Marciano is the only undefeated heavyweight boxing champion in HISTORY, and he's hated on because he's white.

This is categorically untrue.

Sylvester Stallone was inspired by the boxerChuck Wepner.



In particular, he was inspired to make the Rocky character based off Chuck Wepner's lostto, none other than, Muhammad Aliand this is well known.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/on-t...-muhammad-ali/

https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...yweight-biopic
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
If going 49-0 with 43 KO's was easy, someone else in his era would have done it.

Only Rocky went undefeated.

Only reason you're arguing this, is because Rocky is white, so you think he's not as athletic or something as blacks. Rocky had the most powerful punch in boxing.
JCC went 89-0-1 before his 1st loss; brb GOAT by that logic. Face it, Marciano ain't got nothing on Ali....chit they were still old timey boxing in that day and age.
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[QUOTE=IbnKutub post_id=1445798523][b]This is categorically untrue.[/b]

Sylvester Stallone was inspired by the boxer[b]Chuck Wepner[/b].

[youtube]4e1V66o3outube]

In particular, he was inspired to make the Rocky character based off Chuck Wepner's lost[b]to[/b], none other than, Muhammad Ali[b]and this is well known.[/b]

[URL=http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/on-this-day-rocky-is-born-as-chuck-wepner-drops-muhammad-ali/]http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/on-t...-muhammad-ali/[/URL]

[URL=https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/feb/23/real-life-rocky-chuck-wepner-to-sue-over-copycat-heavyweight-biopic]https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...yweight-biopic[/URL][/QUOTE]Stallone got the idea to write the script from the Wepner fight..... but when Stallone actually wrote the script, the REAL inspiration for the Rocky Balboa character and story came from his idol, Marciano.

Stallone named Rocky Balboa after Rocky Marciano, and in the script of the movie, Rocky Balboa's idol is Rocky Marciano.

And Rocky's big fight in the movie happens in the Philadelphia Spectrum, the same city where Rocky Marciano's fight happened, in which he got beat up a bit in a long 13 round fight, but Marciano kept coming and never gave up.....and Rocky KO'd Jersey Joe in the 13th. Similar to Stallone's script for Rocky, except Balboa loses in a UD.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/Dj8dPPO.jpg?1[/img]



It would be foolish to say that Marciano wasn't an inspiration for Stallone.
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Its pretty clear knowledge among boxing historics, that Rocky>Ali, and it isnt even up to debate. Not sure why you guys pulling your hair out ITT when the answer is obviously Rocky
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