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Originally Posted By helpmee⏩
you dont know chit, my good sirMost Muslims do not kill... but most Muslims think those who do are right.
Say 10% are bad... You have the other 90% thinking those bad ones are doing the right thing
Say 10% are bad... You have the other 90% thinking those bad ones are doing the right thing
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06-01-2019, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted By SoSteezy⏩
wasnt america the one going around bombing for democracy... which is a nice way of saying we want our leader in power aka (democracy is always for sale) so we can fund our petro dollar and rob your nation and the whole world as collective of all its oil and resources... When you fund the petro dollar it gains more leverage over the entire world... so its not just one country your robbing... you are literally robbing everyone on the planet... because they didnt like the way "the brown people" were living... the reason america takes on immigrants... because its a debt owed to the peoples countries and lives you ****ed over... dont pay your believe me i dont care... the new world is boarder less... you should wake and smell the coffee... america is history and so every other country... good riddance...what pisses me off is that they don't like the way we live here in the USA, yet they still come.
and yet they try to change the way we live, cuz "harem"
and yet they kill.
srs. If they think that way, they can fuk off to wherever chithole they came from.
If they want peace, then fine, they can chill here
and yet they try to change the way we live, cuz "harem"
and yet they kill.
srs. If they think that way, they can fuk off to wherever chithole they came from.
If they want peace, then fine, they can chill here
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06-01-2019, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Cytomegalovirus⏩
I would like to ask you a question. Why did youd decide to live in the US? How many generations of your family have lived here?I don't know where you miscers are getting your information from. Islam is a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic religion. Saying that anyone Muslim is responsible for another is simply bigoted and ridiculous. Show me your sources on where the Quran exactly says to murder infidels without cause that aren't pulled out of context. Any abrahamic religion could be subject to the same scrutiny. This is a bigoted, racist and extremely minsogynst forum that ironically condemns an ideology that seems very much in tune with theirs. Islam is one of the most misunderstood and misinterpreted religions out there and being a Muslim it frustrates me to see one bigot after another claiming to have any ounce of credibility on any religion. There are white muslims, african muslims, arab muslims, indian muslims, chinese muslims etc who all are bound by their specific ways of life living amongst vastly different demographics and upbringings united by certain aspects of an ideology on how to live life. The vast majority of muslims practice in peace and are law-abiding who practice with good intentions and focus on the positive aspects of Islam. Every country has issues be it 3rd world or 1st world. Less than 20% of all Muslims are "middle eastern" by definition and <.01% of those are confined to militant groups like ISIS yet theentire religion is judged by ****faces who clearly don't practice Islam. You stupid racist bigots need to wake up and realize the primary victims of groups like ISIS ARE ****ING MUSLIMS. THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO DIE BY ISIS ARE MUSLIMS YOU STUPID INBRED ****FACES. ISIS creates morons like you rednecks who continue to force vulnerable youth into mental illnesses who turn to these cults as a form of retribution an in turn more and more innocent people, mainly muslims die because of it. Your average muslim isn't a durka durka jihad bearded goat herder like your rednecks think. He's just an average joe, trying to provide for his family and go about his business. Make an honest living.. The only reason why this doesn't compute in your imbecile minds has to be due to your intellectual disabilities and redneck upbringing. Could you imagine if all white americans where judged by the rhetoric displayed by the bigoted few on this forum? By your logic, no theology is compatible with western life? WTF is western life anyway. You dumbasses complain about dating, being cucked, marriage being tossed down the drain. Your women are whores, a large amount of your youth are becoming liberal millenial cucks who have no work ethic and just bitch and complain. Obesity is becoming an epidemic, alcholism and drug abuse are at an all time high. The top 1% of the elite control the rest of the sheep. The list goes on and on. Look at the Muslim immigrant population and see how much they contribute to this country. We love it here, a lot of us are professionals making bank and striving to bring the highest moral principles to this country by becoming doctors, lawyers, military personall, engineers and the list goes on....
06-01-2019, 10:34 PM
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just fuking lol at saying that when there are muslims in our armed forces who put their lives on the line to protect his freedom. Fuking Hitler loving queer. My brother is an officer in the US Navy and a doctor. He's muslim and a born US citizen. Does he need to get deported? Piss off. My brother is more American than that ******* queer nazi uneducated kid fiddling fuk. He's spent his entire life volunteering, doing research and fuking helping people. He's the best person I know. I don't agree with his religion, but I'd never let anyone hurt my brother or take his citizenship away just for his faith. Fuking scum, srs.
Oh lmao forgot the ******* isn't even American. Lmfao ofc he isn't. Everything he stands for is an insult to America.
Oh lmao forgot the ******* isn't even American. Lmfao ofc he isn't. Everything he stands for is an insult to America.
06-01-2019, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted By liftasaurus⏩
Jesusthey're my ancestors you stupid ****, not yours. white people pass on their legacy and other white people build upon it. in white people there is always potential.
what have your ancestors achieved? oh yeah exactly. wanna know why? because you are an inferior breed of human. your only potential is to be a parasite. the reason you live here instead of where you belong is the very reason you don't belong here. your people create **** societies and you have zero potential to contribute to ours.
what have your ancestors achieved? oh yeah exactly. wanna know why? because you are an inferior breed of human. your only potential is to be a parasite. the reason you live here instead of where you belong is the very reason you don't belong here. your people create **** societies and you have zero potential to contribute to ours.
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06-01-2019, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted By FLman333⏩
lol you think that matters... you do realize your ancestors are from ether Europe or Britain... ether way its not your country... go back to where you came from... unlike other people who come here for refuge... why exactly did your "great ancestors" come here from you god blessed land of Europe or Britain?? for a better life i bet... but life back home wasnt too bad... maybe you should you get back on boat... go back home!!! you dont need to be in america fool...I would like to ask you a question. Why did youd decide to live in the US? How many generations of your family have lived here?
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06-01-2019, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Did he convert?just fuking lol at saying that when there are muslims in our armed forces who put their lives on the line to protect his freedom. Fuking Hitler loving queer. My brother is an officer in the US Navy and a doctor.He's muslim and a born US citizen.Does he need to get deported? Piss off. My brother is more American than that ******* queer nazi uneducated kid fiddling fuk. He's spent his entire life volunteering, doing research and fuking helping people. He's the best person I know. I don't agree with his religion, but I'd never let anyone hurt my brother or take his citizenship away just for his faith. Fuking scum, srs.
06-01-2019, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted By HeartlessSam⏩
Well you didnt give my question a chance to be honest. I was wondering if he has such disdain for us inbred rednecks why he didnt choose his profession I another country. That is a fair question.lol you think that matters... you do realize your ancestors are from ether Europe or Britain... ether way its not your country... go back to where you came from... unlike other people who come here for refuge... why exactly did your "great ancestors" come here from you god blessed land of Europe or Britain?? for a better life i bet... but life back home wasnt too bad... maybe you should you get back on boat... go back home!!! you dont need to be in america fool...
Well when early American ancestors came here they made it is what it is today. Creating the party so to speak. Anyone can crash a party and drink the free booze. That doesn't make both their entrances to the country the same thing
06-01-2019, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted By MiniManletBrah⏩
lol black slaves built america backed by the holy church... kinda like how Saudi Arabia was built by paid slaves... its not something that people discuss unless its Saudi Arabia... but it was the slaves who really built that country from the ground up... this guys parents were failures... once america had dominance over the world... through their financial gold for dollars scam... they started bringing more immigrants to do the jobs people didnt wanna do...Jesus
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06-01-2019, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted By FLman333⏩
lol no the black slaves you people took hostage were the ones who "made america what it was" white people are lazy as ****... they made the slaves do all the hard work... btw if by america you mean ex Britain... yes Britain had the advantage over the world because they were the first to make guns... they had a great system with alot of slaves and the power to protect it...esp from people like you -.-...Well you didnt give my question a chance to be honest. I was wondering if he has such disdain for us inbred rednecks why he didnt choose his profession I another country. That is a fair question.
Well when early American ancestors came here they made it is what it is today. Creating the party so to speak. Anyone can crash a party and drink the free booze. That doesn't make both their entrances to the country the same thing
Well when early American ancestors came here they made it is what it is today. Creating the party so to speak. Anyone can crash a party and drink the free booze. That doesn't make both their entrances to the country the same thing
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06-01-2019, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted By HeartlessSam⏩
So all the inventions and everything has ever made happen is because of black slaves? Slavery is a world wide thing homie. At least in the past for sure. Not every country that had had slavery has progressed. I also feel you over estimate the amount of slaves in the us and how much it really boosted the countrylol no the black slaves you people took hostage were the ones who "made america what it was" white people are lazy as ****... they made the slaves do all the hard work...
06-01-2019, 10:51 PM
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06-01-2019, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted By FLman333⏩
You'd be surprised how much of it was due to slavery and exploitation. France, Belgium, UK all got enormously wealthy and powerful primarily due to their exploitation in colonization and conquest. The modern value today of what was stolen in labor and resources would probably be in multiple trillions.So all the inventions and everything has ever made happen is because of black slaves? Slavery is a world wide thing homie. At least in the past for sure. Not every country that had had slavery has progressed. I also feel you over estimate the amount of slaves in the us and how much it really boosted the country
06-01-2019, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I dont mean to undermine that. Lots of manual labor was done by us slaves. That is true. It was a terrible time in our history and I dont mean to make light of it by talking of it this way.You'd be surprised how much of it was due to slavery and exploitation. France, Belgium, UK all got enormously wealthy and powerful primarily due to their exploitation in colonization and conquest. The modern value today of what was stolen in labor and resources would probably be in multiple trillions.
But to be fair slavery is an issue world round. I feel a Google search of the Arab slave trade needs to be done.
It would be a huge fallacy to say that our country has progressed so much farther than other simply because of slavery. Especially when almost every country in the world has at one point been involved in slavery
06-01-2019, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Alpheta⏩
No. He was atheist and faced an existential crisis. We both kind of did. But he read up on religion, and where I saw lies, he saw truth and opportunity. He said when reading about Islam, it "felt right". He went to a mosque, learned more about their faith and decided it was for him. He seemed inspired by Mohammed's story. I was quick to point out Mohammed diddled a 9 year old, and he told me they think they consummated the marriage when she was 12. I said "wow so much better", and he just told me it was a different time back then. I don't accept Mohammed as a prophet, and I consider Islam to be among the worst religions. It took me a long time to accept my brother for his religion, but I eventually did. He's my brother and a good man. I'm proud of him, and Islam has had a good influence on his life.Thats interesting. How did he convert? Married to a muslim girl?
06-01-2019, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted By FLman333⏩
It's not only slavery. The US in particular has done well for a few simple reasons:I dont mean to undermine that. Lots of manual labor was done by us slaves. That is true. It was a terrible time in our history and I dont mean to make light of it by talking of it this way.
But to be fair slavery is an issue world round. I feel a Google search of the Arab slave trade needs to be done.
It would be a huge fallacy to say that our country has progressed so much farther than other simply because of slavery. Especially when almost every country in the world has at one point been involved in slavery
But to be fair slavery is an issue world round. I feel a Google search of the Arab slave trade needs to be done.
It would be a huge fallacy to say that our country has progressed so much farther than other simply because of slavery. Especially when almost every country in the world has at one point been involved in slavery
1) A relatively free government with free enterprise historically
2) A huge abundance of land and resources here
3) Being really far away from everybody else and thus, being relatively isolated from warfare
06-01-2019, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted By FLman333⏩
lol if were being honest... most inventions are from Germans (operation paperclip) or new immigrants who became american like Einstein... they created the fuel and the rockets to get america to the "moon"... but other than that america attracts smart people... due to things like capitalism ( the dream you have to be asleep to believe) and democracy (paid presidents carrying out the dirty work of bankster) oh yea and the freedom to choose what kinda donut you want in the morning... other than that... if all the immigrants left... than america would have nothing to show... money = innovation... just because america had money it took the lead... how did america get this lead? they scammed the world with their gold to dollars...to the petro dollar once it gained the advantage... American are nothing special... I hate to burst your bubble...So all the inventions and everything has ever made happen is because of black slaves? Slavery is a world wide thing homie. At least in the past for sure. Not every country that had had slavery has progressed. I also feel you over estimate the amount of slaves in the us and how much it really boosted the country
PS: stop taking credit for other nationalities hard work... esp if your not gonna consider Muslims as Americans, than you might get rid of the Germans, the Jews, etc... that way when you show off your list of achievements... it will take no longer than 5 mins...
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I can agree with all that. And a very competitive spirit.It's not only slavery. The US in particular has done well for a few simple reasons:
1) A relatively free government with free enterprise historically
2) A huge abundance of land and resources here
3) Being really far away from everybody else and thus, being relatively isolated from warfare
1) A relatively free government with free enterprise historically
2) A huge abundance of land and resources here
3) Being really far away from everybody else and thus, being relatively isolated from warfare
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06-01-2019, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Thats crazy. Im amazed how he felt the need to find a purpose in his life. Most people dont give a flying chit.No. He was atheist and faced an existential crisis. We both kind of did. But he read up on religion, and where I saw lies, he saw truth and opportunity. He said when reading about Islam, it "felt right". He went to a mosque, learned more about their faith and decided it was for him. He seemed inspired by Mohammed's story. I was quick to point out Mohammed diddled a 9 year old, and he told me they think they consummated the marriage when she was 12. I said "wow so much better", and he just told me it was a different time back then. I don't accept Mohammed as a prophet, and I consider Islam to be among the worst religions. It took me a long time to accept my brother for his religion, but I eventually did. He's my brother and a good man. I'm proud of him, and Islam had had a good influence on his life.
Has he tried converting you?
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Originally Posted By HeartlessSam⏩
Well you're probably right. America is a terrible place that doesnt deserve to exist. Where you live is far superior. You are well within your right to sit and yell about it on your computer. It's your world and were just living in itlol if were being honest... most inventions are from Germans (operation paperclip) or new immigrants who became american like Einstein... they created the fuel and the rockets to get america to the "moon"... but other than that america attracts smart people... due to things like capitalism ( the dream you have to be asleep to believe) and democracy (paid presidents carrying out the dirty work of bankster) oh yea and the freedom to choose what kinda donut you want in the morning... other than that... if all the immigrants left... than america would have nothing to show...
PS: stop taking credit for other nationalities hard work... esp if your not gonna consider Muslims as Americans, than you might get rid of the Germans, the Jews, etc... that way when you show off your list of achievements... it will take no longer than 5 mins...
PS: stop taking credit for other nationalities hard work... esp if your not gonna consider Muslims as Americans, than you might get rid of the Germans, the Jews, etc... that way when you show off your list of achievements... it will take no longer than 5 mins...
06-01-2019, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Alpheta⏩
lolol no...he knows I am the type of person that it is hard to win an argument with...to convert me, he would have to prove to me his god exists. He knows he can't do that. If anything, I attacked him constantly and tried to convert him to atheism. Eventually, I realized I was only hurting him and that Islam was good for him. Took me a long time to realize that while my idea wasn't wrong, my actions were. The entire point of being an American is to learn to coexist with other faiths and ideas. Sometimes, I am too quick to seek to destroy the opposing view. I forget that there is a human there on the other side.Thats crazy. Im amazed how he felt the need to find a purpose in his life. Most people dont give a flying chit.
Has he tried converting you?
Has he tried converting you?
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Originally Posted By FLman333⏩
lol Canadians are richer than the average Americans... and we pay more taxes... and we have better standard of living... but nice weapons i guess...Well you're probably right. America is a terrible place that doesnt deserve to exist. Where you live is far superior. You are well within your right to sit and yell about it on your computer. It's your world and were just living in it
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06-01-2019, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I dont agree with some of your views but i respect your attitude. Mirin srs.lolol no...he knows I am the type of person that it is hard to win an argument with...to convert me, he would have to prove to me his god exists. He knows he can't do that. If anything, I attacked him constantly and tried to convert him to atheism. Eventually, I realized I was only hurting him and that Islam was good for him. Took me a long time to realize that while my idea wasn't wrong, my actions were. The entire point of being an American is to learn to coexist with other faiths and ideas. Sometimes, I am too quick to seek to destroy the opposing view. I forget that there is a human there on the other side.
You said Islam has been good to him. How so exactly?
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Originally Posted By HeartlessSam⏩
Cool. Enjoy it kiddo. Hope it eventually cheers you uplol Canadians are richer than the average Americans... and we pay more taxes... and we have better standard of living... but nice weapons i guess...
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Originally Posted By Alpheta⏩
It inspired him to do good things. He says Allah commands to serve and help others. The rigid discipline in Islam has given him a kind of rubric to develop a strong work ethic. I know many Christians who had a similar effect from their religion. Ofc, I always asked him why not Christianity then since that would give me a huge piece of mind given the current climate toward Islam. He just didn't feel the same spark as he did when studying the Quran.I dont agree with some of your views but i respect your attitude. Mirin srs.
You said Islam has been good to him. How so exactly?
You said Islam has been good to him. How so exactly?
Faith is a weird alien kind of thinking to me. I don't have faith. I only trust what I can measure and deduce. But for someone with faith, a kind of feeling is what drives them. I'll say this. He's had relationships, has a great career, makes way more money and is much happier than me. I'm poor, incel, going nowhere careerwise, and have been suicidal. So, it worked for him.
That being said, I'd never trade any of my ideas for faith. If there is one thing I will always hold as a core part of my identity, it's that it is better to suffer the truth than live a comfortable lie. Always. I'd rather be miserable knowing what I think to be a good approximation to the truth about this universe than live happily believing false models of reality.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Strong delusion can be better than knowledge of reality in terms of thriving.It inspired him to do good things. He says Allah commands to serve and help others. The rigid discipline in Islam has given him a kind of rubric to develop a strong work ethic.
Like there's nothing that says that someone who knows the truth will be the one who thrives, and that the misinformed will do bad... not at all
As that quote goes, not the strongest, or most intelligent. etc. etc... but the one most adaptable to change. You could view the delusion of a religion as an adaption that allows for a being to thrive in life.
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Originally Posted By Quizifier⏩
But honestly OPI respect your opinion brah. People should be free to have their own opinion and I'm not gonna force people to like Islam. They don't have to. But all religious people should be free to practice their religion in a peaceful way.
You either you follow the teachings of Islam as outlined in the Koran, or you don't. You can't be a muslim without believing homosexuality is a mortal sin; you can, however, be forced to live with it because you are living in a civilized part of the world, in which it would instantly be outlawed if muslims were in a position to do so.
There is no such thing as a "moderate". You're desecrating Islam if you don't support and practice its universal teachings, unless it's under the guise of taqiya of course.
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