Fuking lol @ this comment. Lifting does literally the exact opposite. Makes you look short, big thighs make buldge look tiny, pelvic fat makes your dick look smaller,high bf makes your face ugly, ect

There is no reason to risk facial aesthetics for the chance at better physique. Your face is all that really matters to women and even other men

Your bf is determined by your diet, not by lifting lmao. BRB thinking face pulls make your face bigger.

OP here's where your argument falls apart: Most people in first world countries have been to a gym multiple times and have made a commitment to improve their physique. Based on my experience 50% of gym goers are seriously dyel - not misc defintion of dyel, actual dyel. Most of these people don't come consistently for even a month. Just look at how crowded the gym is at New Year's. Observe 2 weeks later.

This suggests that:

1. People do want aesthetic physiques.
2. They don't have the discipline to go to the gym.
3. If they didn't want an aesthetic physique they wouldn't have gone to the gym in the first place and talk about how they're getting "so jacked" this year.
4. They cope by hating on everyone with the same goals as them but more discipline.






5. You're a pretty boy who's insecure. It pisses you off that there are other ways of improving your life and getting what you want besides being a pretty boy. It pisses you off that not everything is just about you. I'm a pretty boy too but I don't hate on everyone who's trying to make it. I also understand the importance of face. I walk into Tim Hortons and ask for a small iced capp and they give me a medium. I randomly get asked if I'm looking for a job in restaurants. If I'm a dollar short they'll often let it go. My optometrist told me that women feel insecure around guys like me. I've never failed a job interview. I get different treatment often just for existing. I know what it's like. Unlike you though, I don't hate on everyone else trying to work with what they have though and creating a better them.

It looks like you're insecure. There is no rational reason why any person would engage in hypertrophy training, it's literally the most aspie excuse for a "sport" ever conceived. It also makes other sane people think you have a small dick, and a host of other personality based problems. It requires zero effort compared to real sports, and any subhuman can get "good" at it with a tiny bit of willpower, and I mean very tiny. While the normal well adjusted well liked social guy was playing soccer and basketball and slaying pussy, the recessed chin lanklet or manlet with the weird ears, temporal recession and peanut head shape were counting macros, squating at 6 in the morning and sleeping 11 hours to get people to notice them. It panned out the opposite, people notice them but not positively.

Most lifters I see are the following:

>Weirdos/aspie
>Lanklet/Framecels
>Ethniks with broken english
>Manlet
>Ugly
>Bullied introvert
>Baldcels

Bodybuilding would be cool if it wasn't an anti-social sport built around drugs populated by dregs of society with deep underlining conditions and complexes. People look down on it because they know darn well the type of people it attracts, pariahs and subhumans. And no it is not jealousy they feel when they see someone whos jacked, it's a strange mix of both pity and awkwardness thinking about the amount of years some ugly weird kid spent to get people to notice them

If you lift srsly you've already lost at life srs. I lift a couple times a week but mostly do sports and cardio. i do it because i enjoy it, not to compensate or get ppl to mire

Guys like this with roidcel physiques are 90% of gymgoers I see. chit aesthetics and bone structure drew them to lifting to escape it, but 4 cycles and 6 years of dedicated training later they have nothing to show for it thats worth a damn

OP is mostly right... I started lifting because I had 2 hours to burn every night and I had the body of a 13 year old boy at age 19/20. Wanted to feel a little more confident in myself and it worked.

Got mad carried away with it for about 2 years, supps, 12-15 hours in the gym each week etc. Now I just lift for 30-40 minutes 3-5 times a week and enjoy outdoor hobbies. Whether it's vain or not to want a decent body and lift, don't know and don't care. I enjoy it and have no reason to stop.

When I got big (big, not shredded. Bear mode, 18% bodyfat) girls automatically thought I had a big dick. I'm 5'11 but they think I'm some "tall guy" (been used as a description to point me out) like I'm some 6'2 master race slayer. I've got big balls and above average girth but normal (6") length. It makes my bulge bigger. But my dick has been the same size for years. It wasn't until I was over 220 pounds that girls really started to act different. Like think I had a big dick. Always looking at my crotch when I'm sitting down (like a quick glance) being super friendly/flirty even telling me "I bet you have a big dick". Lifting works. If you lift and don't have a big dick you'll smash. But just once. Which I guess is ok

cool copypasta bro

Pic looks photoshopped you pasted head on another body. People hate bodybuilding cause of guys like Boston Loyd cause he represents the sissy whose self conscious and does g4p. Rich Piana cause people can't relate to a mutant 50 year old who dresses like a 14 year old . Jeff Said because he is fake and way to conceited the kinda guy who probably talks about himself constantly and takes dick pics and ****. Kali Muscle because he represent your typical meathead bodybuilder. Guys who act like they do is the reason folks hate bodybuilding. Plus most average on the street bodybuilders are dickheads and you can tell they try too hard. Somewhere in between the looks muscle and aesthetics there's got to be a personality and a sense of humor to go along with the spray tan and the abs.

Anyone who trains knows that 89% of the dudes are sub-par. Most of them are compensating, but what is getting you rustled is that society seems to be ignoring the reality and worshipping this facade: existing within a hypocritical word sucks. Seeing that men are compensating, it's just your job to state and prove the reality of this and then distancing yourself from those who prefer the illusion: most of what you said in the 0P is spot on — those who disagree are probably offended for being outted.

Women date for celebrity, money and political power; men who posses any of the above are not judged on their face or body (think Hawkins). Men that are soldiers can get beautiful wives, fat on wall-street gets a plastic bombshell type, politicians get the highly educated sort. Handsome men can get the SAME quality of women without the above three qualifiers, and unattractive men without some qualities of the attractive ones (even if falsely gained aka synthetic), and none of the above three, get nothing or females their equal in rating.

You do seen mad though, and the handsome guy above who grilled you may have called you insecure mistakenly, but I see your use of degrading words as tactless and immature towards those already hurting. Also short women are made for shorter men, so don't hate on short ppl, some are legit like PMlet.

And I suppose every ******* out there who tries to get single digit bodyfat is going to succeed without building a solid base of muscle right? Why are you even here, just go back to reddit..

If you're lifting because you give any kind of a fuk about what others think about you then you are doing it wrong. Lift because you love it not because you think you need it.

I love how almost everybody itt is discussing what it's like to be 6ft shredded around normal people without actually knowing what it is like, or even seeing how these guys are treated in public.


Absolutely guarantee you, every woman gets wet at the sight of a guy 6' 1, 210 shredded.

Ding ding ding ding. Op until you grow 5 more inches and pack on 30 more pounds of lean mass then you can't say sht because you don't know. Fact of the matter is, I enjoy lifting and cardio because it makes me feel godly (endorphins). The added benefits of women on my jock is a plus. As long as I'm content with how I look then fk everyone else's opinion.

Also just lol envy not being in the equation, the average joe looks like a sack of sht. If you're someone who has a beer belly and you see a good looking shredded dude then there's a high chance you get insecure (if you don't have high self esteem). If you're an ugly to slightly above looking female and see a shredded dude you're going to think he's out of your league and thus be insecure. People are threatened and or feel uncomfortable by those who are out of the ordinary or achieved something greater than they have plain and simple.

They are subpar because they are compensating genetic chit. No one with good genes lifts, they're busy playing sports and slaying pooon. I've attacked no one in this thread and im not mad

All the hardcore gymgoers I know with the complexes are on gear ...

I know guys who lift who are tall, 6ft1+ 200lbs lean. plenty of them are FA look at this very forum, and the ones who get girls were getting girls before they got into the gym. The majority of them look like crap facially so they never stood a chance.

No, this is only in your head. No one is seriously jealous of lifters, we aren't special there are dozens of them at the local gym on grams of chit. I seriously hope you don't actually think people are getting jealous, bodies like that look like cope and compensation to normal people. It is not admiration or envy , its pity and awkwardness

It's your frame + height + face as well as being black that gets you attention, you could get all the attention and attraction without the muscles. Again, proving my point that lifting does nothing without good genes in the first place, and your results would be the same if you were dyel.

There is never a single example of muscles working in the absence of face, height, hair and frame, as they are the things doing 99% of the work.

It's like saying you won an olympic medal and equate it to drinking tea every night, when it contributes less than 1%

Stats; 5ft9 inches. Sure thing buddy, good luck achieving respect with poverty tier bones. Good job becoming president or CEO with your muscles despite your below average height

Gymcelling is suppose to be a compensation tool for that "it" factor, if you already have "it" you would never see the need to lift but for sports, as such lifting is a self fulfilling prophecy, there are no elites who seriously BB. If you have a good face, good social circle or good frame+height combo lifting would be the farthest thing from your mind.

Proof: everyone here is FA or bangs fat chicks