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post 1486579761 03-09-2017, 04:16 PM
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Some muzz with an axe just ran through a train station in Germany chopping up all the unarmed krauts. Unknown yet if any "Refugees Welcome" signs were hurt.
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Make sure you tell that the guy who wants your wallet and that booty
Lets be real tea. Not even a desperate man is looking for that
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah⏩
Lets be real tea. Not even a desperate man is looking for that
that's my woman you are talking about there. Now apologize les ye be taken to brown town
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Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
Lol, this "arguement", always seems so silly to me... Unless all crime completely stops tomorrow, there is ALWAYS a chance. It's just "paranoia" until you find yourself in a horrifying situation. I'd rather be able to protect myself and my loved ones, IF the need arises.





'Violent crime in England and Wales is up 24%, police figures show
Murder rate rises 20%, knife crime 9% and gun crime 7% according to police recorded crime figures"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...police-figures
I understand you have this need to carry a gun, you have grown up in a Country where having a gun is a part of life. I have not grown up in same environment, I have never felt the need to have a gun and my opinion of gun protection will be different to your opinion. In saying this, you can be prepared for something bad to happen and still end up with bad outcome, having a gun doesn't automatically mean you will be protected and your family, false sense of security.
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Originally Posted By PirateBrah10⏩
Gun violence is non existent in Europe. Ye there could always be terrorists attacks but the chances of you dying in one is close to zero. Why would you want more guns in circulation when you could be putting a gun in the hands of someone whos one bad day away from going on a killing sprees. Most gun massacres in america are committed by sub urban disgrunted every day white people not muhammeds or hassans.
Gun massacres and home invasions are two different things *******. And the people who commit those are BLACKS and other NON WHITES!!

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Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
Lol, this "arguement", always seems so silly to me... Unless all crime completely stops tomorrow, there is ALWAYS a chance. It's just "paranoia" until you find yourself in a horrifying situation. I'd rather be able to protect myself and my loved ones, IF the need arises.







'Violent crime in England and Wales is up 24%, police figures show
Murder rate rises 20%, knife crime 9% and gun crime 7% according to police recorded crime figures"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...police-figures
jesus man...that is hard to stomach

there is a video of a state trooper that pulls over a guy and he gets out of his truck and opens fire ont he LEO and he is just screaming his head off. You can hear the fear in his scream. Sad as fuk man
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Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
Yeah, I have seen a few of those, really painful to watch.
I know man. I've never been a cop but i was infantry (army 11x) so i do have a connection in a few ways. Its so sad to see my brothers getting killed for putting themselves in between some ass hat and the civis and then d-bags have the nerve to shut down interstates and tear their own city down
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Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
Having a fire extinguisher on site doesn't mean you can keep your house from burning down, but it sure as heck can't hurt to have just in case it can...

Just because you have never had a home invasion, or robbery, or been assaulted, doesn't mean you never will. And hopefully you never have to experience that. Unfortunately though, there are thousands of people who do, daily. Better safe than really really sorry.

A gun is a force/strength equalizer. I like stacking the odds in my favor, as much as possible. Doesn't mean I am always going to win, but it does mean I always do my best.
This pretty much sums up why I have guns. Got my first one after my house got shot at and it took the cops 45 min to get to my house and there's a precinct about a 5 minute walk from me. Never putting my life in the hands of anybody else again.

At the same time this forum is full of people who fantasize and get wet over the thought of having the opportunity to shoot somebody. In reality, I'd bet most miscers will never have to use their guns and ain't never let off a round except at a range or when hunting. People watch too many movies thinking that John Wick bs is how it really goes down in real life. Nah fam, that's not how it goes. Most people are better off just getting a dog since they deter most home invaders anyway.
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Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
Having a fire extinguisher on site doesn't mean you can keep your house from burning down, but it sure as heck can't hurt to have just in case it can...

Just because you have never had a home invasion, or robbery, or been assaulted, doesn't mean you never will. And hopefully you never have to experience that. Unfortunately though, there are thousands of people who do, daily. Better safe than really really sorry.

A gun is a force/strength equalizer. I like stacking the odds in my favor, as much as possible. Doesn't mean I am always going to win, but it does mean I always do my best.




Yeah, I have seen a few of those, really painful to watch.
Have to agree to disagree on this topic, I can feel I will get under your skin with my opinions and I think I best I do not voice them.

I understand where you are coming from.
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post 1486592341 03-09-2017, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
Having a fire extinguisher on site doesn't mean you can keep your house from burning down, but it sure as heck can't hurt to have just in case it can...

Just because you have never had a home invasion, or robbery, or been assaulted, doesn't mean you never will. And hopefully you never have to experience that. Unfortunately though, there are thousands of people who do, daily. Better safe than really really sorry.

A gun is a force/strength equalizer. I like stacking the odds in my favor, as much as possible. Doesn't mean I am always going to win, but it does mean I always do my best.




Yeah, I have seen a few of those, really painful to watch.
see that video you posted makes me want to own a gun on top of the reasons that i want one. But here in Australia we dont have mass shooting, home invasions, armed robbery with a handgun/rifle or just general crimes involving a gun. I think the gun related crimes in australia is really low % and we have probably the strictist gun laws in the world. The only reason America has such flexible gun laws is because it is the Second Ammendment and it is aimed at arming yourself against government and other people. Im sure if there was no Second Ammendment you guys wouldnt have such a high rate of homicide/gun violence/mass shootings. This is strictly just my opinion tho and i could be completely wrong since i havent done any research into it. If you have any material to back up your claims/arguements please post them! would love to read.
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
Pffft. If guns are illegal how will criminals or terrorists get them.

Use your brain OP
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Chicago has a no gun law. It's totally safe bruhs
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It's not that bad, in the Netherlands we had 41 gun related deaths in 2015 (most recent number I could find) on a population of 17 million. It works for us I guess, would be cool to own a gun though.
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Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
Amat victoria curam
I had Google what you said.

Still in certain what you mean by it.
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Originally Posted By TrotonKat⏩
In saying this, you can be prepared for something bad to happen and still end up with bad outcome, having a gun doesn't automatically mean you will be protected and your family, false sense of security.
Of course having a gun doesn't automatically mean you will be protected.

A fire extinguisher doesn't automatically mean you'll be protected either.

Both are simply tools which can help in certain circumstances. Neither are a guarantee of anything. This should go without saying.
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Originally Posted By boostnlol⏩
But here in Australia we dont have mass shooting, home invasions, armed robbery with a handgun/rifle or just general crimes involving a gun. I think the gun related crimes in australia is really low % and we have probably the strictist gun laws in the world.
Agreed. I live in Australia as well, and the reason I don't need a gun is because no one else has one either. It's as simple as that.

It's extremely rare to hear about gun crimes here. And most of the time when you do, it's just gangs who only target each other.
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Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
What about all other forms of violent crime?
120 murders total on 17.000.000 people (in 2015, most recent statistics i could find). We are kinda safe I guess, was actually surprised to see gun related deaths are about a third of total murders.

I'm not really trying to make any statement though, not that involved in the debate since it doesn't concern me. It's something you Ameribrahs have to decide for yourself.
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Originally Posted By PirateBrah10⏩
Gun violence is non existent in Europe. Ye there could always be terrorists attacks but the chances of you dying in one is close to zero. Why would you want more guns in circulation when you could be putting a gun in the hands of someone whos one bad day away from going on a killing sprees. Most gun massacres in america are committed by sub urban disgrunted every day white people not muhammeds or hassans.
Thats okay, rapes, robberies, burglaries, assaults all shot up in numbers and homicides stayed the same but hey theres no gun violence tho right
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Dont need one?

The only situation I can actually think of which would require a gun would be if someone else with a gun wanted to hurt me. Stats show that without reason its almost a 0% chance, so why live in fear all my life?

On the average day there is probably 1000+ things more likely to kill me, so being logical why would I ignore all the other thousands of risks and get a gun based on irrational fear?
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Originally Posted By TrainFromChild⏩
120 murders total on 17.000.000 people (in 2015, most recent statistics i could find). We are kinda safe I guess, was actually surprised to see gun related deaths are about a third of total murders.

I'm not really trying to make any statement though, not that involved in the debate since it doesn't concern me. It's something you Ameribrahs have to decide for yourself.
There is also not a minority gang problem that the US has, the gun violence involving non gang members is actually quite low. Its just places like chicago and LA/NYC that account for a great majority of the gun deaths. Anti gunners also routinely include the 21k suicides by gun as part of their argument
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Originally Posted By GardHainer⏩
The only situation I can actually think of which would require a gun would be if someone else with a gun wanted to hurt me. Stats show that without reason its almost a 0% chance, so why live in fear all my life?
I totally understand the choice of most folks not to carry a gun based on the low risk of needing it, but just for objectivity's sake, someone else with a gun is certainly not the only threat which a gun could be used to defend against.
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They are so beyond brainwashed it's hopeless. Don't even try to debate them they are under some serious mind contol.
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Originally Posted By MattBro95⏩
Switzerland is proof guns are not the problem. US has huge cultural problems which is reflected in it's gun crime stats. One particular culture is very problematic....
Maybe, maybe not. I really don't see it that way.

As a general rule, I think anything which doesn't causeimplicitharm to either others or the good functioning of society should be legal (though regulated, if necessary). So owning firearms - whether for hunting, defense, opening beers or whatever else you want to use them for - should be legal, though regulated.

Hell, if you have the money for an aircraft carrier and a stealth bomber, can pass all the requisite background checks and don't mind being on fifteen different government watchlists... have fun, bruh.
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Originally Posted By Fist-Of-Freedom⏩
They are so beyond brainwashed it's hopeless. Don't even try to debate them they are under some serious mind contol.
This why I stop, because of the above reason.
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holyyyyy phuk americans are literally retarded sometimes.

take a look at the crime rates in a country like USA vs scandinavian countries u phukking morons
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Originally Posted By WinterFresh⏩
Not true at all. I own guns in Germany.
Germany lmao. Where you use force to defend yourself against Abdul and his merry bunch and end up in prison for 1st degree murder while Abdul is praised as a martyr beacon of solidarity
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Originally Posted By KevinHarvick⏩
Gun in every room crew. Bathroom is most vulnerable. Got two guns in there. One in shower and one beside toilet. Come at me snackbars.
Shotty by the shower if they wanna shoot me while im chittin??
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sucks for you guys

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But in all seriousness

I travel alot for work and unfortunately don't live in the best neighborhood right now. Use to worry about my wife, but got her into target shooting and now she's a damn good shot with a pistol (and rifle). Know that if anything were to happen when I'm gone, she could hold her own.

A gun is a tool, a great equalizer where a 100lb women can go toe to toe with a 250lb man. It puts the weak on a level playing field with those that would like to cause harm. Just because you *******s havn't gotten yourselves in situations where you felt like a gun was needed, doesn't mean there aren't 1000's of other cases where a gun could have made a difference in someones life or well being.
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