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Originally Posted By Shortstop36⏩
This, always laugh at incels discussing the Redpill... Like they're spitting truth that no-one else knows. In reality most normal people do know but just don't give a phuck cause it doesn't affect them in the slightest.I've been digging out hole consistently and hole hitting me up to smash, so the redpill/misc **** makes me lol, I even contribute to it. But if I was an ugly indian manlet I might actually go ER over some of the ish
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Originally Posted By Shortstop36⏩
Quality of life depends on money. That's why women are gold diggers. This has only to do what looks better to them and what society tells them.If by "shallow" you mean girls that want the best genetics for their kids so they can have fun filled lives. That's the redpill
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Originally Posted By Omnivium⏩
They may not know what they want...but they know what the DON'T want, and that's manletsDamn that was brutal. But it also proves that girls don't know what they want and they suck at measuring so don't even listen to them
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You may never be the guy that walks into a bar and picks up girls with ease. I might be taller than you, but I'll never be the guy that walks onto a basketball court and dominates. That's life. Appreciate the good qualities you have been blessed with and consider everything else a challenge to succeed. If you work hard you can succeed with women and life in general. I see cute girls with short guys all the time. That's the biggest misc delusion. Yeah girls might like height at first, but they do want that personality and charisma to stay. That's something you'd have to work on anyway regardless of height. Any girl that stays with a guy solely for his height isn't a girl you'd wanna be with anyway, trust me. They don't expect any other value because they bring no other value themselves.
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Originally Posted By Sanguivorant⏩
Women are whores until they prove to you they are worthy.Misc mentality/redpill/sl00thate whatever.
It's often very funny stuff until my gut detects the truth behind it and I fall into a deep depression for a week or so.
What do you guys do when this happens? How do you recover?
It's often very funny stuff until my gut detects the truth behind it and I fall into a deep depression for a week or so.
What do you guys do when this happens? How do you recover?
That's the only thing to concern yourself with . Don't make yourself vulnerable to whores.
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04-02-2017, 01:15 AM
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Problem is that misc has a bunch of truth mixed in. Normal people, ofc, come over and laugh at some of the posts because
while they experienced it and can relate, they also have success mixed in to understand the exaggeration.
It is people who did not have success, be it with women, finding job, all this jazz...over the top stuff to others sounds like
their experience and story of their life. They had questions before about their failure but could not pinpoint exactly why they
are bothered. Then they find misc and can relate to a bunch of other people.
It is definitely good for people to get delusion removed and real-life manifest. In fact, it is part of normal maturing process for
humans. But some humans have it a lot better in life, countless times because of rolling genetic dice and winning. I always viewed
life as Runescape, you have multiple skills and then you level up until 99 and only your determination can stop you from reaching
that level. But real life is different, some people are capped at level 5 and it is not by choice. Feels like a big scam and hence we
have depression being number 1 cause of health problems in the world.
while they experienced it and can relate, they also have success mixed in to understand the exaggeration.
It is people who did not have success, be it with women, finding job, all this jazz...over the top stuff to others sounds like
their experience and story of their life. They had questions before about their failure but could not pinpoint exactly why they
are bothered. Then they find misc and can relate to a bunch of other people.
It is definitely good for people to get delusion removed and real-life manifest. In fact, it is part of normal maturing process for
humans. But some humans have it a lot better in life, countless times because of rolling genetic dice and winning. I always viewed
life as Runescape, you have multiple skills and then you level up until 99 and only your determination can stop you from reaching
that level. But real life is different, some people are capped at level 5 and it is not by choice. Feels like a big scam and hence we
have depression being number 1 cause of health problems in the world.
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Buddy 99 percent on this forum don't know sh*t about jack. I'm more intelligent than most people on this forum or most humans in the general. I do not listen to people who don't know better compared to me.
04-02-2017, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted By BrahWhoLifts⏩
This is a key point. The most difficult biases/positions to drop are those that have some level of truth behind them, because you can scope evidence to that which reaffirms the position i.e. confirmation bias.Problem is that misc has a bunch of truth mixed in. Normal people, ofc, come over and laugh at some of the posts because
while they experienced it and can relate, they also have success mixed in to understand the exaggeration.
while they experienced it and can relate, they also have success mixed in to understand the exaggeration.
e.g. videos where women are evil, where the man gets fcuked via marriage, where women diss short men, or bald men.
Also see:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_...hooter_fallacy
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Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
but it kind of is. So far the only thing I don't agree with the misc is it's views on lifting. Misc thinks lifting is useless to women and only face and height matter but that's bullshyt in my anecdotal experience and I'm doing a lot better ever since I've started looking like I lift.Just a metaphor pertaining to life. Life is what you make it for the most part. As many have mentioned, his first hand to throw back in is the misc. he needs to go out and experienced the real world for a while and realize people aren't 100% how the misc describes them.
Everything the misc says about women and cultural norms seems to be too true.
Misc's views on race are almost identical to how women see it. The amount of backhanded compliments I receive like: "you're cute for a brown guy" "I've never met a brown guy like you" and so forth kind of cuts to your soul that people view your race as genetic trash and only give you a pass because of your face. They think they're being nice but it's really not. Misc sees brown people as subhuman (at least in the eyes of women) and that's how it is in the real world too.
I've had women say some pretty nasty racist shyt to me right to my face. I don't see any other race getting chirped in public. I'm lucky I'm good looking so I can get a pass but I really don't think anything the misc says is wrong or even ridiculously exaggerated. If you're a kunt to women they will do anything for you. If you're nice, they try to use you and go no contact. I once showed a girl who does everything for me - homework assignments food etc. - a little bit of gratification for all she does and she goes no contact and I thought she was one of the good ones. I treat someone like shyt and they are always super nice to me and give me what I want. It's always been like this. The thing is there are no snow flakes we're not all that different. There's not much the misc says that's incorrect. Spending less time on the misc can at best just make you a bit more delusional but I think it's important to see things for how they really are and find your own solution.
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The only thing that should actually remain constant and true is the amount of sl00ts that exhibit typical sl00ty behaviour, gold diggers, etc. That is logical to think about and it makes sense especially among overly entitled privileged suburban women.
Leave the racist/autism stuff at home lol.
Leave the racist/autism stuff at home lol.
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the world is going to chit. degeneracy everywhere. society ONLY loses if gay marriage is legalized and the only reason for it is "MUH FEELS"
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The problem is you're focusing on the things in life that don't really matter. When I was a kid I had hopes and dreams. We all did. But over time, the daily grind gets in the way and you miss the things that really matter, even though they are right in front of you, staring you in the face. I think the next time you should ask yourself "Am I on the right track here?". I don't mean to be rude but people like you I really pity. So maybe you could use the few brain cells you have and take advantage of the knowledge I have given you now. Good luck.
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everything the misc says is pretty much true (srs) just accept it and move on.
04-02-2017, 06:12 PM
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04-02-2017, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted By GenghisBro⏩
Your excellent use of the English language acts as strong evidence for your claim.Buddy 99 percent on this forum don't know sh*t about jack. I'm more intelligent than most people on this forum or most humans in the general. I do not listen to people who don't know better compared to me.
04-02-2017, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted By DassItMan⏩
Was going to rebut, then reread, and now I'm gonna think on this for a bit and post later.Feels on the backwards compliments. May be the area or it may be ignorance. Either way it's annoying as fuk.but it kind of is. So far the only thing I don't agree with the misc is it's views on lifting. Misc thinks lifting is useless to women and only face and height matter but that's bullshyt in my anecdotal experience and I'm doing a lot better ever since I've started looking like I lift.
Everything the misc says about women and cultural norms seems to be too true.
Misc's views on race are almost identical to how women see it. The amount of backhanded compliments I receive like: "you're cute for a brown guy" "I've never met a brown guy like you" and so forth kind of cuts to your soul that people view your race as genetic trash and only give you a pass because of your face. They think they're being nice but it's really not. Misc sees brown people as subhuman (at least in the eyes of women) and that's how it is in the real world too.
I've had women say some pretty nasty racist shyt to me right to my face. I don't see any other race getting chirped in public. I'm lucky I'm good looking so I can get a pass but I really don't think anything the misc says is wrong or even ridiculously exaggerated. If you're a kunt to women they will do anything for you. If you're nice, they try to use you and go no contact. I once showed a girl who does everything for me - homework assignments food etc. - a little bit of gratification for all she does and she goes no contact and I thought she was one of the good ones. I treat someone like shyt and they are always super nice to me and give me what I want. It's always been like this. The thing is there are no snow flakes we're not all that different. There's not much the misc says that's incorrect. Spending less time on the misc can at best just make you a bit more delusional but I think it's important to see things for how they really are and find your own solution.
Everything the misc says about women and cultural norms seems to be too true.
Misc's views on race are almost identical to how women see it. The amount of backhanded compliments I receive like: "you're cute for a brown guy" "I've never met a brown guy like you" and so forth kind of cuts to your soul that people view your race as genetic trash and only give you a pass because of your face. They think they're being nice but it's really not. Misc sees brown people as subhuman (at least in the eyes of women) and that's how it is in the real world too.
I've had women say some pretty nasty racist shyt to me right to my face. I don't see any other race getting chirped in public. I'm lucky I'm good looking so I can get a pass but I really don't think anything the misc says is wrong or even ridiculously exaggerated. If you're a kunt to women they will do anything for you. If you're nice, they try to use you and go no contact. I once showed a girl who does everything for me - homework assignments food etc. - a little bit of gratification for all she does and she goes no contact and I thought she was one of the good ones. I treat someone like shyt and they are always super nice to me and give me what I want. It's always been like this. The thing is there are no snow flakes we're not all that different. There's not much the misc says that's incorrect. Spending less time on the misc can at best just make you a bit more delusional but I think it's important to see things for how they really are and find your own solution.
04-02-2017, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By jcto⏩
So much thisTfw you see someone with a receding hairline and you think in your mind "baldcel"
Lmao its all fun and games till it becomes toxic in your life
Lmao its all fun and games till it becomes toxic in your life
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Originally Posted By DassItMan⏩
I'd say this too, lifting has definitely helped me look a bit more masculine instead of boyish, and that has translated into interest from girls. The thing is that like I said, I'm now more attractive than I used to be, but also much more inhibited and more paranoid of women, so even when I'm certain that a girl is into me I never make the move, because I've internalized the misc's belief about height and face. I can barely talk to women now like I used to.but it kind of is. So far the only thing I don't agree with the misc is it's views on lifting. Misc thinks lifting is useless to women and only face and height matter but that's bullshyt in my anecdotal experience and I'm doing a lot better ever since I've started looking like I lift.
Like back when I was 120 lbs wet, I actually had a girlfriend (even though that was back in highschool, and I didn't have sex with her because I told her I didn't want to at the time) and I was able to talk to girls normally. Now that's all gone. The misc has made me afraid of women in a way.
Misc's views on race are almost identical to how women see it. The amount of backhanded compliments I receive like: "you're cute for a brown guy" "I've never met a brown guy like you" and so forth kind of cuts to your soul that people view your race as genetic trash and only give you a pass because of your face. They think they're being nice but it's really not. Misc sees brown people as subhuman (at least in the eyes of women) and that's how it is in the real world too.
I'm luckier about this because I'm not too brown, but you're right in that non-white or non-black men are generally seen as lesser.Though this is not as harsh as it seems. Women do have diverse preferences in race, but usually they want the top tier man from that race as well, like they won't accept the average. Even top tier ethnic men do poorly on dating apps and such, and have to go through a ton of rejection if they want someone outside of their race.
In addition, if you as an ethnic guy want to date interracially you have to seriously lower your standards. You have no idea how many times I've seen a genuinely handsome brown guy who lifts and has a bright future with some lowlife chubster white girlfriend.
I don't really care though, I'm content sticking to my own race.
I've had women say some pretty nasty racist shyt to me right to my face. I don't see any other race getting chirped in public. I'm lucky I'm good looking so I can get a pass but I really don't think anything the misc says is wrong or even ridiculously exaggerated. If you're a kunt to women they will do anything for you. If you're nice, they try to use you and go no contact. I once showed a girl who does everything for me - homework assignments food etc. - a little bit of gratification for all she does and she goes no contact and I thought she was one of the good ones. I treat someone like shyt and they are always super nice to me and give me what I want. It's always been like this. The thing is there are no snow flakes we're not all that different. There's not much the misc says that's incorrect. Spending less time on the misc can at best just make you a bit more delusional but I think it's important to see things for how they really are and find your own solution.
Yeah, generally I got more respect from women when I stopped treating them kindly and pandering, but man lands on moon.
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Originally Posted By Sanguivorant⏩
okay the misc has not personally negatively affected my social skills. I actually like the misc, most people aren't stuck up and like to laugh at everything. I don't think it's negatively affected me with anything. I think the problem with you may be that you take what the misc says to heart. If you want to believe something try just putting it into the corner of your head and go out and try to see what your real world experience says and then relate it to the original thought and come to your own conclusion.I'd say this too, lifting has definitely helped me look a bit more masculine instead of boyish, and that has translated into interest from girls. The thing is that like I said, I'm now more attractive than I used to be, but also much more inhibited and more paranoid of women, so even when I'm certain that a girl is into me I never make the move, because I've internalized the misc's belief about height and face. I can barely talk to women now like I used to.
Like back when I was 120 lbs wet, I actually had a girlfriend (even though that was back in highschool, and I didn't have sex with her because I told her I didn't want to at the time) and I was able to talk to girls normally. Now that's all gone. The misc has made me afraid of women in a way.
I'm luckier about this because I'm not too brown, but you're right in that non-white or non-black men are generally seen as lesser.
Though this is not as harsh as it seems. Women do have diverse preferences in race, but usually they want the top tier man from that race as well, like they won't accept the average. Even top tier ethnic men do poorly on dating apps and such, and have to go through a ton of rejection if they want someone outside of their race.
In addition, if you as an ethnic guy want to date interracially you have to seriously lower your standards. You have no idea how many times I've seen a genuinely handsome brown guy who lifts and has a bright future with some lowlife chubster white girlfriend.
I don't really care though, I'm content sticking to my own race.
Yeah, generally I got more respect from women when I stopped treating them kindly and pandering, but man lands on moon.
Like back when I was 120 lbs wet, I actually had a girlfriend (even though that was back in highschool, and I didn't have sex with her because I told her I didn't want to at the time) and I was able to talk to girls normally. Now that's all gone. The misc has made me afraid of women in a way.
I'm luckier about this because I'm not too brown, but you're right in that non-white or non-black men are generally seen as lesser.
Though this is not as harsh as it seems. Women do have diverse preferences in race, but usually they want the top tier man from that race as well, like they won't accept the average. Even top tier ethnic men do poorly on dating apps and such, and have to go through a ton of rejection if they want someone outside of their race.
In addition, if you as an ethnic guy want to date interracially you have to seriously lower your standards. You have no idea how many times I've seen a genuinely handsome brown guy who lifts and has a bright future with some lowlife chubster white girlfriend.
I don't really care though, I'm content sticking to my own race.
Yeah, generally I got more respect from women when I stopped treating them kindly and pandering, but man lands on moon.
I don't think it will help much because it's not like this will make the world that much of a better place but it's worth a shot. I think you just gotta accept it for what it is. I have accepted it. A friend introduced me to the red pill like 2 years ago and now it doesn't really phase me, don't even go back to that shythole anymore. It's not really a woman's fault that men have designed a society that puts her on a pedestal. It's unfair to get mad at women exclusively while not hating whiteknights as well. Men basically are the reason feminism and all this bullcrap even exists today so take that for what it is. It's best to just be nihilistic and learn to not give a fuk. I think that's really important.
Idk about lower standards, I get attention mostly from 6-7s and sometimes 8s but I don't really bother trying with them. I was in a 3 year ltr with a 7.5 who had a really nice personality so I'm not too familiar with the dating market. I guess I'll find out now that I'm getting back into this whole thing. I get what you're saying though, it can certainly affect your rating. The thread on "6.5 white guy or 8/10 ethnic guy" survey sums it up pretty well. Although irl women are emotional and impulsive so it doesn't hold as much. I think it depends on the girl too, some are stuck up but not everyone cares that much about your race if you're aesthetic but the portrayal is kind of annoying because no one else has to deal with it. I don't have a racial preference but I don't outright see women of any race as subhuman as a lot of women view my race.
E.g. was on campus 2 weeks ago and some guy who was a seemingly gay best friend said something to a female friend along the lines of: "well 3 oclock doesn't seem too bad." I'm sitting like 2 feet from her in some study space. She just out loud says something like: "yea cause pretty boys with brown skin is what I'm attracted to. Cause you know, that's so attractive uhh." She was a whale herself.
Call me a bytch but that kinda hurt. I'm kind of a dik myself but I've never outright made fun of someone for their race. The fact that she'd say that about me having no regard for me even being there shows that I'm not even on human level to her. I just bertstared her but she didn't care. I don't go around mocking random people I don't know saying shyt like "yea cause fat women with white skin. So attractive hahaha lmao just lmao." Plus time to time I see women openly saying racist shyt about brown people in public that they'd never say about a jewish dude or any other race essentially. I don't care if someone is not interested in me because of my race but like you don't gotta be such a hateful fuk you know?
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I disagree. While i lift because i like too ( disregaurd chubby post bulk avi) its never really helped me get sloots. Even in the 10-12% bf range. All that being shredded did for me was scare away the 4/10s and 3/10 whales from approaching me because they dont think id have that low of standards. That and i got more cute girls and a few hbbs giving IOIs but it always turns out to be just an attention whore srs. Even the cute girls who do occasionally approach me just want my attention. When i try getting 5+/10 numbers i normally dont get a real number or theyll stop replying when i talk about meeting up. I even had one 7/10 who i would meet up with but she just kept telling me she wanted to be friends first. Turned out she had a bf. I wanted to smash but i dont think i had a chance from the get go. All i am is just an ego boost . :/. Same happens with the cuties i approach. Just get stringed along.but it kind of is. So far the only thing I don't agree with the misc is it's views on lifting. Misc thinks lifting is useless to women and only face and height matter but that's bullshyt in my anecdotal experience and I'm doing a lot better ever since I've started looking like I lift.
Everything the misc says about women and cultural norms seems to be too true.
Misc's views on race are almost identical to how women see it. The amount of backhanded compliments I receive like: "you're cute for a brown guy" "I've never met a brown guy like you" and so forth kind of cuts to your soul that people view your race as genetic trash and only give you a pass because of your face. They think they're being nice but it's really not. Misc sees brown people as subhuman (at least in the eyes of women) and that's how it is in the real world too.
I've had women say some pretty nasty racist shyt to me right to my face. I don't see any other race getting chirped in public. I'm lucky I'm good looking so I can get a pass but I really don't think anything the misc says is wrong or even ridiculously exaggerated. If you're a kunt to women they will do anything for you. If you're nice, they try to use you and go no contact. I once showed a girl who does everything for me - homework assignments food etc. - a little bit of gratification for all she does and she goes no contact and I thought she was one of the good ones. I treat someone like shyt and they are always super nice to me and give me what I want. It's always been like this. The thing is there are no snow flakes we're not all that different. There's not much the misc says that's incorrect. Spending less time on the misc can at best just make you a bit more delusional but I think it's important to see things for how they really are and find your own solution.
Everything the misc says about women and cultural norms seems to be too true.
Misc's views on race are almost identical to how women see it. The amount of backhanded compliments I receive like: "you're cute for a brown guy" "I've never met a brown guy like you" and so forth kind of cuts to your soul that people view your race as genetic trash and only give you a pass because of your face. They think they're being nice but it's really not. Misc sees brown people as subhuman (at least in the eyes of women) and that's how it is in the real world too.
I've had women say some pretty nasty racist shyt to me right to my face. I don't see any other race getting chirped in public. I'm lucky I'm good looking so I can get a pass but I really don't think anything the misc says is wrong or even ridiculously exaggerated. If you're a kunt to women they will do anything for you. If you're nice, they try to use you and go no contact. I once showed a girl who does everything for me - homework assignments food etc. - a little bit of gratification for all she does and she goes no contact and I thought she was one of the good ones. I treat someone like shyt and they are always super nice to me and give me what I want. It's always been like this. The thing is there are no snow flakes we're not all that different. There's not much the misc says that's incorrect. Spending less time on the misc can at best just make you a bit more delusional but I think it's important to see things for how they really are and find your own solution.
I still get laid but its always 4/10 ugly chicks or 3/10 whales. Atleast 2 of the whales wouldve been 7/10 or 8/10 irl standards if they lost 100 lbs. lmao. Ive only smashed 2 5/10s. One was pushing 6 but just didnt have the body. But hey atleast i look aesthetic and im healthy. Lifting also gives me something to take my anger out on. Id rather pump my chest with 235 lbs furiously like harambe while blaring deathmetal then lash out at some sloot for some stupid reason like a beta. Or get jealous and knock some sloots ******* 120 lb bf out to show whos more alpha.
All in all. Lifting wont help you get sloots if your face is chit.
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Best thing you can do is play the hand you were dealt like it was the hand you wanted. Dwelling on chit that's out of your control isn't helping anything. Make the most of the chit you can control
04-02-2017, 11:29 PM
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i was a beta pussy little cuck before the misc. the misc helped me change my attitude lol
04-02-2017, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted By RightKindaGuy⏩
if youre 5ft5 or under thats like trying to not get killed in dark souls5'5" - no thx jeff, thats life on extreme hard mode.
riposare in pace manlets
im a manlet myself but i rather just laugh at it, than be a sad depressed kunt
04-02-2017, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Griffindinho⏩
You are a sad depressed kunt, because plenty of guys on this forum ~5'5/6 get laid and/or have cute gfs.if youre 5ft5 or under thats like trying to not get killed in dark souls
riposare in pace manlets
im a manlet myself but i rather just laugh at it, than be a sad depressed kunt
riposare in pace manlets
im a manlet myself but i rather just laugh at it, than be a sad depressed kunt
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04-02-2017, 11:52 PM
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04-02-2017, 11:56 PM
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Take the bits that make you better - the lifting, the camaraderie, the people who give a fukk about you hitting that new PR or not and get out into the real world. Cos the bits that have warped your brain are just trolling for yukks
This is the 2nd borderline depression thread I've seen you post, you're better than this
Take a ban and quit reading until your head is back in a better place
This is the 2nd borderline depression thread I've seen you post, you're better than this
Take a ban and quit reading until your head is back in a better place
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