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07-04-2017, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted By zknarc⏩
but the world does revolve around the United States. Economically, socially, politically, business-wise, athletically, academically etc.This. Americans fail to understand the world doesn't revolve around them and the rest of the world is more concerned with other things.
07-05-2017, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted By TMaC828⏩
To be fair, I'm not very knowledgeable on ww2, have been reading more about ww1, the carnage was on a whole other level.That's funny.
I've researched WW2 quite extensively... and as much as I agree that Russia's effort on the Eastern front is as significant an event as any... D-Day was Germany's most catastrophic defeat. And The U.S.A. dedicated half of the troops in that invasion(73K/156K)... so it's safe to say that our involvement in the allied invasion is directly correlated to the victory.
There's no need to try and deflate the contribution of the Americans in WW2. You could very well be speaking German right now if it weren't for us.
I've researched WW2 quite extensively... and as much as I agree that Russia's effort on the Eastern front is as significant an event as any... D-Day was Germany's most catastrophic defeat. And The U.S.A. dedicated half of the troops in that invasion(73K/156K)... so it's safe to say that our involvement in the allied invasion is directly correlated to the victory.
There's no need to try and deflate the contribution of the Americans in WW2. You could very well be speaking German right now if it weren't for us.
No one is deflating the American contribution. Just pointing out that Russia sacrificed more, by any measure.
Remember also, Britain was very poor because of ww1. There was significant pressure in the uk to appease hitler. If that had happened, the whole of Europe would have been hungry for resources. Let's assume an invasion of Russia wouldn't have been successful.. where would that have left the USA? On its own with no military comparable to today..you didn't have an army at all in the first years of ww1.
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07-05-2017, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Bentley41⏩
they spend the day admiring how cool we were to give the king the fingerWhat type of Copensation is going on in the U.K. on the glorious day?
07-05-2017, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Bentley41⏩
We have our own history stretching back thousands of years with conquests and coups, then their is the intertwined history of all the other neighbouring European countries - revolutions, rise and fall of empires, inventing everything, arts, wars, the greatest music ever etc.Do they even teach about the Alpha US of A over there? Like "hey a bunch of Alpha scrappers declared independence against our will today"
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Kids are taught the US as a social experiment that has gone horribly wrong and beyond repair. Dead srs.
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07-05-2017, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Bentley41⏩
Economically.. chinabut the world does revolve around the United States. Economically, socially, politically, business-wise, athletically, academically etc.
Socially.. anywhere but America lol, for a rich country the number of homeless you have is embarrassing
Politically.. can't even deal with North Korea.. domestic politics a fukk fest (as are ours)
Business.. somewhat..who was China, India, uk, Germany,
Athletically.. plays sports no one else cares about. Worlds most popular sports rugby, football, cricket. USA suck at them all.
Academically..your Harvard, our oxbridge, same difference, not sure it's measurable..
Anything else?
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07-05-2017, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Not only were we poor but we'd also been fighting since 1939 against a power that was being supplied by the US until you guys decided to get involved in 1941. How many of our troops do you think were left after 5yrs of fighting in Europe? Take into account that during just one battle in 1916 we lost 420K soldiers, just one battle in a war that ran for four years. So yes, thanks for helping us out but you were very late to the party on both occasions and helped sway the tide but you made sure you got your paychecks first before joining in.To be fair, I'm not very knowledgeable on ww2, have been reading more about ww1, the carnage was on a whole other level.
No one is deflating the American contribution. Just pointing out that Russia sacrificed more, by any measure.
Remember also, Britain was very poor because of ww1. There was significant pressure in the uk to appease hitler. If that had happened, the whole of Europe would have been hungry for resources. Let's assume an invasion of Russia wouldn't have been successful.. where would that have left the USA? On its own with no military comparable to today..you didn't have an army at all in the first years of ww1.
No one is deflating the American contribution. Just pointing out that Russia sacrificed more, by any measure.
Remember also, Britain was very poor because of ww1. There was significant pressure in the uk to appease hitler. If that had happened, the whole of Europe would have been hungry for resources. Let's assume an invasion of Russia wouldn't have been successful.. where would that have left the USA? On its own with no military comparable to today..you didn't have an army at all in the first years of ww1.
I've been to Normandy and seen all of the stuff and it is horrendous to even try and think what they went through even though your thoughts are nowhere near the truth.
To say D-Day was the German's worst defeat is a load of rubbish. Their biggest and most important defeat was in Russia, then they lost superiority of the skies over Europe, got evicted from North Africa (bye bye oil supplies) and then it was sh!t or bust at the Bulge. D-Day was up to us to get ashore, the others were straight forward offences that they tried whatever it took and failed.
Died on the Western front - 120K
Died on the Eastern front - 1.8M
Hitler threw everything he had Russia, the western front was more of a nuisance but his ego got in the way and he paid for it.
Actual figures for D-Day in full:
73K Ameribrahs
61K UK Alphas
Sorry we were 12K short after 5yrs of fighting.
Absolutely pissening how little you know or care to know about what actually went on.
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07-05-2017, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Every country I've been to seems to be worried about only what's going on their own country...just like we do for the most part.Economically.. china
Socially.. anywhere but America lol, for a rich country the number of homeless you have is embarrassing
Politically.. can't even deal with North Korea.. domestic politics a fukk fest (as are ours)
Business.. somewhat..who was China, India, uk, Germany,
Athletically.. plays sports no one else cares about. Worlds most popular sports rugby, football, cricket. USA suck at them all.
Academically..your Harvard, our oxbridge, same difference, not sure it's measurable..
Anything else?
Socially.. anywhere but America lol, for a rich country the number of homeless you have is embarrassing
Politically.. can't even deal with North Korea.. domestic politics a fukk fest (as are ours)
Business.. somewhat..who was China, India, uk, Germany,
Athletically.. plays sports no one else cares about. Worlds most popular sports rugby, football, cricket. USA suck at them all.
Academically..your Harvard, our oxbridge, same difference, not sure it's measurable..
Anything else?
07-05-2017, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Bentley41⏩
If that was true then it wouldn't be such a huge shock for the 5% of americans who actually leave the country and discover that other nations have their own music/cinema/food/sport cultures. The only true global American cultural export is fast food.but the world does revolve around the United States. Economically, socially, politically, business-wise, athletically, academically etc.
Originally Posted By Bentley41⏩
We didn't learn about it at all in school, there's simply too much history to focus on one small battle. The Norman invasion, Tudors, Armada, civil war, industrial revolution, Empire, WW1/2, that's what kids learn. 1776 was one theatre in a series of wars against the French that culminated in defeating Napoleon. If anything it's seen as a French victory here not an American one. Of course it's a huge deal to Americans since they only have 250 years of history.Do they even teach about the Alpha US of A over there? Like "hey a bunch of Alpha scrappers declared independence against our will today"
07-05-2017, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted By nzgs⏩
With only one decade in the history of America where they've not been fighting be it among themselves or over seas, I'd say War is their biggest export, fast food (as we know it) has only been around for about 70yrs.If that was true then it wouldn't be such a huge shock for the 5% of americans who actually leave the country and discover that other nations have their own music/cinema/food/sport cultures.The only true global American cultural export is fast food.
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07-05-2017, 10:15 AM
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07-05-2017, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By KRC63⏩
savageYea because you guys were doing fuking swell against the Germans in WW2. They blitzkrieged you toothless losers faster than the muslims invaded your country and slept with your wives
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