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post 1518817221 09-08-2017, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By hiyooo⏩
It helps but don't rely on it. It is like a band-aid, and you're not healing the wound. My friend IRL is currently in deep depression, he's on all kinds of meds. He seems normal and energetic to most people when he's on meds 24/7, since I have known him for a long time, he's legit fked inside when he's off the meds. He had a phucked up life though, his best buddy committed suicide in high-school, divorced, list goes on, and on. "Tough love" doesn't work on everyone, he calls me to hang out when he needs a taste of it. He's legit living a medicated life, don't be this person OP. It's like being an addict...
Wut... So you acknowledge that he's a lot better when on the meds and actually fuked without them. Yet you think he's an addict for using meds that help him live somewhat normally? How do you suggest he should "heal the wound" then? Seriously you sound kind of fuked to judge him like this. I've come to accept that some people are genuinely fuked, or for people that find the right meds to help them, that is awesome and I'm happy for them. Not everything is solved through exercise, diet and sleep for goodness sake.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
U mad?
Nope but you must be rustled enough to neg me. lol
Gotta have thicker skin if you're going to claim to be supreme rustler.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
I'm not talking about contacting a therapist.

I'm talking about contacting an actual Dr with qualifications who can tell OP what to do instead of some miscer.

And of course it's an option. He can get an appointment on Monday morning.

Edit: Also please don't underestimate physical exercise as a therapy for depression. Even 5 minutes of intense exercise bike can lift mood tremendously.
Well people have been telling him that forever too. He just ignores any practical advice, I'm just throwing chit at the wall to see what sticks. And if you'd read my posts you'd see that I said that physical exercise is also helpful, but he said he's tried that and it wasn't enough. It can improve your mood but real depression goes way beyond just a bad mood.

If you're really down in the ditches you need something more substantial. But sure, anything that improves his situation is obviously gonna be helpful, not trying to shoot the idea down. If he really wants to get better he should attack this thing from every possible direction but I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen.
Originally Posted By hiyooo⏩
It helps but don't rely on it. It is like a band-aid, and you're not healing the wound. My friend IRL is currently in deep depression, he's on all kinds of meds. He seems normal and energetic to most people when he's on meds 24/7, since I have known him for a long time, he's legit fked inside when he's off the meds. He had a phucked up life though, his best buddy committed suicide in high-school, divorced, list goes on, and on. "Tough love" doesn't work on everyone, he calls me to hang out when he needs a taste of it. He's legit living a medicated life, don't be this person OP. It's like being an addict...

TL;DR

- OP you're not alone
- Seek professional help srs
- Don't rely on drugs 100%
Yeah that's what I said. You use the drugs as a springboard to change your living situation for the better so that you can then ditch the medication when you're in a healthier place. That's how it's supposed to be used, the thing is doctors don't communicate this so people just end up taking them for life. It's tragic but as we can clearly see from OP some people don't have the grit to make a change on their own. In that case it's better than nothing.

Of course there are also the people who are chronically depressed and want to kill themselves but are so apathetic they don't have the motivation to go through with it. Then they go on anti-depressants which doesn't give them back the will to live, but does give them just enough initiative to go through with it so they end up killing themselves once they start medicating. Pretty ironic, more common than one might suspect too. So yeah, obviously should be a last resort
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Originally Posted By TimboSlice36⏩
Nope but you must be rustled enough to neg me. lol
Gotta have thicker skin if you're going to claim to be supreme rustler.
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Originally Posted By SteadyWayfarer⏩
Wut... So you acknowledge that he's a lot better when on the meds and actually fuked without them. Yet you think he's an addict for using meds that help him live somewhat normally? How do you suggest he "heal the wound" then? Seriously you sound kind of fuked to judge him like this.
We have been friends for decades, and sure to you I sound judgemental and phucked. Neg me if you want, idgaf. He and I had conversations about this all the time. He knows when he needs someone to talk to, I am there 24/7. Sometimes they just need someone to listen and vent, I keep my mouth shut when he needs that. He was the one who said that to me, not me. "I need meds because I feel normal with them, without them I feel suicidal." I am not gonna go into detail about his personal life, every case is different. OP has his own unique problems, we don't know the root cause of it. That's why he needs professional assistance, not misc.
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Originally Posted By UnclRuckus⏩
Well people have been telling him that forever too. He just ignores any practical advice, I'm just throwing chit at the wall to see what sticks. And if you'd read my posts you'd see that I said that physical exercise is also helpful, but he said he's tried that and it wasn't enough.
No - you said people have been telling him to see a therapist forever. That's not the same thing as seeing a GP.

It's unlikely someone will seek out a therapist independently in the UK. That would probably mean private therapist etc and you'd just think to yourself 'fuk that, can't be bothered'.

But if you see a GP, they will make a decision on whether or not to refer you to mental health specialists and they will in turn decide on what therapy you may/may not need (CBT/Counselling). The GP may also prescribe antidepressants and although the internet wears a tin-foil hat about those, if you go to the websites where people leave reviews about such meds, you will see that a LOT of people benefit from them. Not all, but a LOT.

All OP has to do is phone his GP on monday.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
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Lel. Go have a bath you bum.
lol at referring to yourself in 3rd person..full autist mode
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Originally Posted By hiyooo⏩
We have been friends for decades, and sure to you I sound judgemental and phucked. Neg me if you want, idgaf. He and I had conversations about this all the time. He knows when he needs someone to talk to, I am there 24/7. Sometimes they just need someone to listen and vent, I keep my mouth shut when he needs that. He was the one who said that to me, not me. "I need meds because I feel normal with them, without them I feel suicidal." I am not gonna go into detail about his personal life, every case is different. OP has his own unique problems, we don't know the root cause of it. That's why he needs professional assistance, not misc.
Fair enough, you seem like a good friend, and at least you are there for him.
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Originally Posted By TimboSlice36⏩
lol at referring to yourself in 3rd person..full autist mode
Not impressed either.
Jesus man let it go.
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Originally Posted By NotANun21⏩
That is what I'm saying, I don't trhink depression can be fixed man

Look at all these people that have killed themselves recently, Robbin Williams his story especially

Battled depression all of his life, fighting the good fight, trying to keep his head above the water, made the world laugh, but just couldn't take another trip down to rock bottom and that was the end just like that

I'm trying to give myself a chance to beat this but I'm tired, fcking exhausted from trying man... trying so hard and getting nowhere with anyone... that and I think the world is just chit, humanity is garbage and I can't accept that in my head - I can't accept that people who are supposed to be there for me aren't - my parents, but also in the professional sense. I was told growing up if you are sick you go to the doctor/hospital and they make you better then you learn actually some people aren't consdiered worthy of help and the world actually revolves around how much money you have the potential to earn or how rich your parents are... bullchit
Have you really done everything in your power to live your life to the absolute best of your ability? Or are you jacking off and wallowing in self pity? You have one decision - either you live, or you die. If you're going to live, you better live life to the fullest based on your parameters, doing everything in your power to fix your chit no matter how uncomfortable it is because you know the result is worth the suffering. Life is full of problems for everyone, its sink or swim. But your life is your responsibility, absolutely nobodies else.

If you are seriously considering suicide, I suggest calling one of those hotlines.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
Jesus man let it go.
I was just flinging your chit back at you but it's dropped.
Not even sure if you noticed but my first reply to you in this thread was a copy/pasta of your reply to UnclRuckus that was just trying to seriously help the OP.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
No - you said people have been telling him to see a therapist forever. That's not the same thing as seeing a GP.

It's unlikely someone will seek out a therapist independently in the UK. That would probably mean private therapist etc and you'd just think to yourself 'fuk that, can't be bothered'.

But if you see a GP, they will make a decision on whether or not to refer you to mental health specialists and they will in turn decide on what therapy you may/may not need (CBT/Counselling). The GP may also prescribe antidepressants and although the internet wears a tin-foil hat about those, if you go to the websites where people leave reviews about such meds, you will see that a LOT of people benefit from them. Not all, but a LOT.

All OP has to do is phone his GP on monday.
Yeah that's what I said but other people told him to see a doctor before that. A few people ITT said to get his bloods done, he's talked about doctors visits before too. I even gave him an alternative to going to the GP because he said they'd dismissed him in the past and I awared him on private blood tests you can have run.

And considering how I already made the case for antidepressants in certain scenarios ITT, and as dismissive as you are about the therapies I suggested that have a much better track record than antidepressants with way less risks and downsides, it's pretty ironic you're talking about tinfoil hats.

I'm not saying he shouldn't call his GP. He should, but he wont. I tried to give him other options because eventually maybe he'll realize that he's shot down a hundred different solutions to get out of the pit he's dug for himself and see that the problem isn't the world around him, it's him. But by now I doubt it, I'm beating a dead horse and so are you. Lots of people have stretched out their hands ITT but he's not interested in replying to anything other than people who will validate his feelings of misery and self-pity.

So it goes

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I've no transport man I let my car tax and MOT lapse

When's freshers in Bradford?
Join the Footy Team there mate huh??

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Originally Posted By SteadyWayfarer⏩
Fair enough, you seem like a good friend, and at least you are there for him.
Indeed, yer. You can not beat having good friends from Skwl, Work etc - that is where I meeta lot of my bessy ones
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Your entire day is framed by what you do in the first 20 minutes. Wake up at 5. Stay away from phone. Listen to some tony robbins. Some music that pumps you up. Pray read walk jog lift whatever you know makes you your best.

Every single emotion is controllable and you can determine what that emotiin means to you and how you react.
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Originally Posted By vakrka⏩
Your entire day is framed by what you do in the first 20 minutes. Wake up at 5. Stay away from phone. Listen to some tony robbins. Some music that pumps you up. Pray read walk jog lift whatever you know makes you your best.

Every single emotion is controllable and you can determine what that emotiin means to you and how you react.
Takes a lot of work but it's so worth it
To a degree yer - but s'pose your Kettle breraks and your Razor acts up and you loose your Work-files - u can hardly alight this to the rest of a bad day I would say!!!!!!
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Originally Posted By MatthewChav⏩
To a degree yer - but s'pose your Kettle breraks and your Razor acts up and you loose your Work-files - u can hardly alight this to the rest of a bad day I would say!!!!!!
They dunnae have kettles they wouldn't have a clue

Glad you bumped this btw because today is another one of those bad ones... turned down a 21st birthday tonight to sit in and be miserable, just so angry all the time and I know if I go out I'll drink more than i do at home because of this chit that's on my mind and I'll end up in lock up

Just want to punch something or wrap myself up in tinfoil get inty microwave and blow myself tae fuk
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Keep holding on until you make it till the end of that therapist list again. You made it the first time, it will happen again. I am sure this will help you you just need to keep holding on
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Originally Posted By NotANun21⏩
They dunnae have kettles they wouldn't have a clue

Glad you bumped this btw because today is another one of those bad ones... turned down a 21st birthday tonight to sit in and be miserable, just so angry all the time and I know if I go out I'll drink more than i do at home because of this chit that's on my mind and I'll end up in lock up

Just want to punch something or wrap myself up in tinfoil get inty microwave and blow myself tae fuk
Why do you seem to completely gloss over the good advice people give you. After reading this thread, you should have a good grasp on what you should pour your energy and efforts towards if you want to get better
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OP if you don't see a GP next week then you can fuk right off.
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Originally Posted By SteadyWayfarer⏩
Why do you seem to completely gloss over the good advice people give you. After reading this thread, you should have a good grasp on what you should pour your energy and efforts towards if you want to get better
Cos half of the kunts who reply don't read everything, or aren't familiar with the whole story from my other threads

So they repeat stupid chit that I already responded to weeks ago - lost my temper with them doing it in my last emo thread (https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=174693621)
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Originally Posted By NotANun21⏩
Cos half of the kunts who reply don't read everything, or aren't familiar with the whole story from my other threads

So they repeat stupid chit that I already responded to weeks ago - lost my temper with them doing it in my last emo thread (https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=174693621)
Should add recaps in your threads.
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Originally Posted By NotANun21⏩
and I think I'm starting to accept that it never will
Serious... have you had your T levels checked? Many young men seem to be having declining T levels.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
OP if you don't see a GP next week then you can fuk right off.
I've told a GP in the past that I was suicidal and they just let me leave out the door after signing me off a job I didn't have (at the time) and putting me on a waiting list for a therapist I never got to see, so you gotta forgive me if my faith in them isn't the highest now

They also gave me two leaflets, one titled "stress and anxiety" and the other "Depression" with your generic cookiecutter advice like "don't kill yourself lol"

Proof wit ya name so I can put to bed the rumour that I'm not fcking trying, got stacks of letters of me trying dated 2014-2017 and having my appointments cancelled and moved too if you want pictures of those (I'd have to censor them)



To be fair it's not you that's giving me a hard time Busta mate, but you I'm quoting so...
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Originally Posted By BetaNerd⏩
Should add recaps in your threads.
then the same kunts would be in them with the tl;dr

Some people manage to keep up no problem, their advice I do my best to take every single time where applicable
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[QUOTE=NotANun21 post_id=1518910811]I've told a GP in the past that I was suicidal and they just let me leave out the door after signing me off a job I didn't have (at the time) and putting me on a waiting list for a therapist I never got to see, so you gotta forgive me if my faith in them isn't the highest now

They also gave me two leaflets, one titled "stress and anxiety" and the other "Depression" with your generic cookiecutter advice like "don't kill yourself lol"

Proof wit ya name so I can put to bed the rumour that I'm not fcking trying, got stacks of letters of me trying dated 2014-2017 and having my appointments cancelled and moved too if you want pictures of those (I'd have to censor them)

[img]https://i.imgur.com/3a1pnWi.jpg[/img

To be fair it's not you that's giving me a hard time Busta mate, but you I'm quoting so...[/QUOTE]Welp, that GP was an absolute fukking autist. I know for a FACT you should have got better service than that.

Go the fuk back. Let it all out and burst into tears in front of them if you feel like it.

They will get the message.

Go back bro. Go back next week.
fist yourself
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