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post 1546937601 03-20-2018, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
The terms athiest and agnostic are not mutually exclusive.
Yeah bro they're almost mutually inclusive. Almost every atheist I've met was agnostic, as well as many Christians.
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Originally Posted By tyn89⏩
Theist or atheist are equally "arrogant". It's just that atheist makes way more sense. Atheist's position is always asking theist to prove your belief since you are claiming something exist and atheist just don't believe in your statement.

It's the same as someone told you unicorn exists and you don't believe and ask that person to prove it. How is that more or less arrogant?
I don't even believe that atheism makes more sense, are that atheist are smarter, or better (because we are not) I just personally don't believe. That simple.
Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
I think it's just not as trendy anymore to be over the top atheist. And thank fuk for that tbh.
Agreed, I don't go out of my way to bash anyones religion, and have done my share in calling out militant atheist posts. Threads like this are just baiting, so a gaggle of like minded people can virtue signal and profess to one another how much better they are.
post 1546953301 03-20-2018, 03:38 PM
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Good, atheist were anoying as fuk with their attitude, brb im a highly inteligent induvidual while they are fedora wearing, basement dweler virgins who got fooked in life in looks or some other way so they hate on God, Wincel was like this here and he got banned thankfully
Also most atheist are boring, nonspiritual plain joes
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post 1546953381 03-20-2018, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By SnowEh⏩
Yup. It's the same reason to support religion because you feel it is a benefit to society. I don't think an atheist society would turn out the way atheists think it would. They have this believe that all the good things we cherish now in our moderate Judeo-Christian society would also exist in an atheist society. Such as monogamy, family structure, anti- ****philia, charity, ten commandments etc. An atheist society would not have come up with it on their own without the influence of religion. Their laws would be based off primal thought, instinct. How do we know having sex with minors would be illegal? Or cheating on your spouse would be frowned upon? Or society supporting two parent households? Or giving to charity? There is no way to know. You don't have to believe in God and that's never how I would base my argument on. I would base it on results. And clearly a society of moderate Judeo-Christian people has had the best result so far. An atheist would rather live in a moderate religious society than in an atheist society, guaranteed.
Didn't Mohammed marry a 13 year old or something? I kept my comment pretty agnostic but for the record I believe society would get along fine without religion. Charity and being a good person in general are not exclusive to religion
post 1546953611 03-20-2018, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By wisdommaster1⏩
Didn't Mohammed marry a 13 year old or something? I kept my comment pretty agnostic but for the record I believe society would get along fine without religion. Charity and being a good person in general are not exclusive to religion
6-7 years old

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post 1546953641 03-20-2018, 03:42 PM
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It's on the rise still. At least here. It's just that Atheism has become so normal that people don't feel the need to label or talk about it.

Some Mormon's came to my house a couple weeks ago and asked to talk about it. I said I'm not religious and they asked me if any of my neighbours might be interested. I said people up here aren't really religious anymore and they just Bert stared me. Pretty funny.
post 1546953971 03-20-2018, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
Atheists are either very stupid or very angry. The ones that are both are the most unstable people you will meet.

Their attacks on “religious”people always seem to focus on their equivalent in the religious world- stupid and/or angry.
I would say I'm neither. I'm atheist because there have been thousands of religions throughout history and, given the similarities between them, the only reasonable thing to draw from that information is that people like to invent religion and people like to believe fake religion. We know for a fact that the overwhelming majority of religious people throughout history have followed a fake religion. They can't all be right. Yet every religious person thinks their religion is the exception. It's comical.
post 1546953981 03-20-2018, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted By wisdommaster1⏩
Didn't Mohammed marry a 13 year old or something? I kept my comment pretty agnostic but for the record I believe society would get along fine without religion. Charity and being a good person in general are not exclusive to religion
you can thank Christianity for all western societies morals, you can look tribes in Africa and bumfuk nowhere and see what they did/still do, or what fuked up things societies were doing before going Christian srs
inb4 u use some rare cases of catholic priests raping boys as a counter argument
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post 1546954231 03-20-2018, 03:53 PM
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Nope. People are just praying to a god they don’t believe in because the world is ****ed.
post 1546954391 03-20-2018, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted By tyn89⏩
I know right? Because you can't prove that something doesn't exist.....
Sure you can. Non-existence proofs are commonplace in mathematics. You usually go about proving them by assuming the entity does exist, and arriving at a contradiction. For example,

Statement: There does not exist a smallest positive real number.

Proof: Assume there does exist a smallest positive real number. Call this z. The number (z/2) is both a real number and > 0. It is also less than z, so we have found a positive real number less than z, a contradiction. We conclude there does not exist a smallest positive real number.
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post 1546954601 03-20-2018, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Sure you can. Non-existence proofs are commonplace in mathematics. You usually go about proving them by assuming the entity does exist, and arriving at a contradiction. For example,

Statement: There does not exist a smallest real number > 0.

Proof: Assume there does exist a smallest positive real number. Call this z. The number (z/2) is both a real number and > 0. It is also less than z, so we have found a positive real number less than z, a contradiction. We conclude there does not exist a smallest positive real number.
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post 1546954801 03-20-2018, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
you can thank Christianity for all western societies morals, you can look tribes in Africa and bumfuk nowhere and see what they did/still do, or what fuked up things societies were doing before going Christian srs
inb4 u use some rare cases of catholic priests raping boys as a counter argument
But who was Japan?
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post 1546954831 03-20-2018, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Kokanee⏩
The one true god is a stick man named Alfred. Prove me wrong...
Simply responding to the claim "you can't prove something doesn't exist", with a bona-fide proof of non-existence.

Your statement is entirely different. I personally don't even like the word "prove" being used outside of the scope of mathematics and logic...empirical-type statements are not proved, so to speak.
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post 1546955071 03-20-2018, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Simply responding to the claim "you can't prove something doesn't exist", with a bona-fide proof of non-existence.

You statement is entirely different. I personally don't even like the word "prove" being used outside of the scope of mathematics and logic...empirical-type statements are not proved, so to speak.
The fact is that religious people think that the absence of proof against the existence of their god is a reason to believe in it. It isn't hard to prove sorrydemonstratehow devoid of reasoning that sort of thinking is.
post 1546955291 03-20-2018, 04:08 PM
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Atheism isn't a movement and never was. Before social justice was a thing the far-left liked to hate on christians under the banner of atheism. Truth is that very few atheists are SJWs but most SJWs are atheists. In the current political climate those same annoying atheists are now acting under the banner of social justice. It's also because they think it's not politically correct to criticise islam.

I used to listen to the atheist experience podcast years ago, it used to be pretty good, lots of talk about science and separation of church and state, very libertarian. Then some lesbian SJWs started hosting and every episode became rants against conservatives, capitalism, you name it.
post 1546955311 03-20-2018, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
But who was Japan?
western society
Japan
choose one gringo
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post 1546955481 03-20-2018, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Kokanee⏩
The fact is that religious people think that the absence of proof against the existence of their god is a reason to believe in it. It isn't hard to prove sorrydemonstratehow devoid of reasoning that sort of thinking is.
There is misunderstanding here. I am not making any comments about the validity of the above line of thinking. I am simply responding to a claim that "you can't prove non-existence" with a specific proof of non-existence. That's all.
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post 1546956151 03-20-2018, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
There is misunderstanding here. I am not making any comments about the validity of the above line of thinking. I am simply responding to a claim that "you can't prove non-existence" with a specific proof of non-existence. That's all.
I was just messing around. Having said that, I don't like your example. It's like saying "You can prove non-existence because you can prove that the letter ~ doesn't exist in the Latin alphabet." You are ignoring or failing to recognize the context of the other poster's statement. Time to step out of your math bubble. This is coming from someone who studied 3 years of math.
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post 1546982201 03-20-2018, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted By ChristmasFnatic⏩
I remember several years ago, it was discussed a lot on the Misc and on other boards. Many are challenging religion. Now, theres hardly any talks.

I know theres still a lot out there, but it seems theres no more discussion. In fact, there are more talks about religion. Esp how libs are destroying Christian values, etc.. People defending Christianity more than before.
All interesting topics that people care about and wonder about got censored.

It's the death cycle of every board I've been on.

People who wonder about race issues, sexual ones, etc will wonder if religion is real too. If you chase these people off then interesting topics die.

I don't know where the good convos are being held these days though.
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Originally Posted By xbit7⏩
gender is the new religion
Although that's a joke, it's kinda the truth too.

Seeing angels got replaced by UFOs, and now people pretty much don't believe in either.

The idea that supernatural forces guided our lives was replaced by the idea that philosophies and economics could. Almost no one believes that something like Communism or Capitalism will transform the world now. So, it seems that people now believe that unlimited individual freedoms will create happiness.

Religion created chaos, because it's lies.
Economic systems created chaos, because they are lies.
And ideas like gender don't exist, trans people are normal, homosexuals are normal, family isn't necessary, etc are lies and they will create chaos, and are.
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Originally Posted By mirin247⏩
im atheist and ive given up talking to religious people.

it always comes down to:

'god is all around us'
'okay but have you actually seen god?'
'i dont need to see him when i can feel him'
'okay then how do you know he exists?'
'because he made the earth and the stars and the universe'
'okay do you have any evidence?'
'do you have any evidence that he didnt?'

and round and round and round
i feel the same way about atheists.. its not that they stump me or anything i just realized how pointless it is arguing about it. i have other things id rather be doin than debating.
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post 1547002941 03-21-2018, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
western society
Japan
choose one gringo
u were arguing about morality. i was just throwing in an example of a society with similar values with a completely different belief system. Hell, from what I hear they're generally better people than we are.
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
you can thank Christianity for all western societies morals, you can look tribes in Africa and bumfuk nowhere and see what they did/still do, or what fuked up things societies were doing before going Christian srs
inb4 u use some rare cases of catholic priests raping boys as a counter argument
we can also thank Christianity for the inquisition, burning people at the stake, the crusades, countless other wars, and slow downing the progression of science by ~500 years

Western societies morals are not founded on Christianity, they are founded on not being dicks.
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