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Excited over an interpretation of radio waves. yeah, ok.
I'm sure there's water there but I'll wait until we pull samples before I gush about it. Can't even send an expedition to center of the South Pole, but we finding water on Mars.
I'm sure there's water there but I'll wait until we pull samples before I gush about it. Can't even send an expedition to center of the South Pole, but we finding water on Mars.
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07-25-2018, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By sg1976⏩
On the projection in the skyWhere is Mars?
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07-25-2018, 02:28 PM
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07-25-2018, 02:32 PM
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lol @ "if there's water then there is probably alien life as well"
what if aliens don't need water to live? what if they don't have water in their composition? what if they drink sulfuric acid and eat mercury? What if they don't even drink or eat, and all they need is the sunlight or some other sh*t?
lol, fukkin scientists, when will they learn?
think about it
what if aliens don't need water to live? what if they don't have water in their composition? what if they drink sulfuric acid and eat mercury? What if they don't even drink or eat, and all they need is the sunlight or some other sh*t?
lol, fukkin scientists, when will they learn?
think about it
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07-25-2018, 02:43 PM
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saw on tv the other day what hubble has found
basically, there are more stars we know of, than grains of sand on all the beaches on earth
lol if you think we are the only ones around
basically, there are more stars we know of, than grains of sand on all the beaches on earth
lol if you think we are the only ones around
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Scientist will now claim there's life on Mars, but not in a womb , smh
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Feel like I've heard this story before and nothing ever comes from it. It's like NASA doing just enough to keep that budget up.
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07-25-2018, 03:29 PM
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Is it a misnomer to assume all life requires water?
I know life as we know it does, here on earth
But i find it presumptuous to assume alien life forms need to subsist on water
I know life as we know it does, here on earth
But i find it presumptuous to assume alien life forms need to subsist on water
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in for cave dwelling humanoid race
according to my many years of knowledge and research, we can assume that one of the species living inside mars is the dwarves, the goblins, the reptilians, the mind flayers, the drow aka dark elves, and many more. my money is on reptilians.
according to my many years of knowledge and research, we can assume that one of the species living inside mars is the dwarves, the goblins, the reptilians, the mind flayers, the drow aka dark elves, and many more. my money is on reptilians.
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
I used to want to see another life form.. then that stupid movie Prometheus ruined Itsaw on tv the other day what hubble has found
basically, there are more stars we know of, than grains of sand on all the beaches on earth
lol if you think we are the only ones around
basically, there are more stars we know of, than grains of sand on all the beaches on earth
lol if you think we are the only ones around
Scared the chit outta me
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
It's just chemistry. Most of the chemical reactions and physics we observe on Earth apply to the entire Universe and water is a necessity for the basic chemical reactions to produce energy etc.Is it a misnomer to assume all life requires water?
I know life as we know it does, here on earth
But i find it presumptuous to assume alien life forms need to subsist on water
I know life as we know it does, here on earth
But i find it presumptuous to assume alien life forms need to subsist on water
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Originally Posted By FatalTragedy12⏩
Yea, i think id buy more where theres water, theres prob lifeIt's just chemistry. Most of the chemical reactions and physics we observe on Earth apply to the entire Universe and water is a necessity for the basic chemical reactions to produce energy etc.
More than if theres not water. Theres no life
Water is not an essential ingredient for Life, scientists now claim
Press Release From: Current Opinion in Chemical Biology
Posted: Friday, November 26, 2004
image Billions of dollars are pumped into extraterrestrial exploration each year in the search for the ultimate prize - the discovery of life on other planets. But are we looking in all the right places? Prof Steven A Benner, who is working with NASA on the design of the next generation of Mars probes, believes that life could flourish without any need for water. In the December issue of Current Opinion in Chemical Biology, he and his colleagues at the University of Florida describe how organisms could survive in exotic environments such as on Saturn's moon Titan.
Benner and colleagues identify just two absolute requirements for life to exist: a suitable temperature range to allow chemical bonding, and an energy source (for example, the sun or radioactive decay). This contrasts with the common belief that life absolutely requires liquid water. Indeed, the authors speculate on the possibilities of life emerging in cold, icy environments, just like that of Titan, which meets both requirements and many 'weaker' ones. "Life may even exist in more exotic environments, such as the supercritical dihydrogen-helium mixtures found on gas giants," speculates Prof Benner, referring to the large gaseous planets such as Jupiter and Saturn. He even wonders if we may have missed exotic forms of life here on Earth. "This question is not as absurd as it might seem," says Benner. "Just 50 years ago...life in the deep ocean was not known."
Titan, currently being studied by the Cassini space probe, is perhaps an ideal place to look for life. The stunning pictures and data already sent back from the moon suggest a world of yellow clouds and oily black methane lakes, an environment that is thought to resemble that of the Earth billions of years ago. This puzzling moon is too cold for large quantities of liquid water to exist, however, which for many probably rules out life. Humans and, indeed, simple bacteria are mostly made up of water, so it is difficult to envisage life without it. But Benner believes this focus on water can blinker the search. "Why not use the hydrocarbons that are naturally liquid on Titan as a solvent for life directly?," he muses. "In many senses, hydrocarbon solvents are better than water for managing complex organic chemical reactivity."
We will soon know more. Next month, the European-built Huygens probe will detach from Cassini and touch down, or perhaps splash down, on Titan's surface. "The Huygens mission will be the first real input into this field for some time. Its potential for providing an 'Aha!' experience with respect to weird life is enormous," says Benner.
All life on Earth is widely supposed to have descended from a common ancestor. One consequence of this is that every organism uses the same general biochemistry. For example, all forms of life make use of proteins made from the same set of building blocks. But this may not be the only way to do things. Could creatures exist elsewhere in the Universe with a completely different biochemistry? Experiments in recent years have partly addressed such questions by re-engineering protein and DNA systems. For example, alternative amino acids to those found in living systems are capable of standing in for their natural counterparts. Professor Benner and colleagues now provide a wide-ranging exploration of just how far the chemistry of life can be pushed. "Is water necessary? Is carbon essential? Why not silicon?," asks Benner. One of the leading theories on the origins of life supposes that the earliest organisms used RNA instead of DNA to pass on their genetic information and to catalyse reactions. If this is correct, it demonstrates that alternative biochemistries are indeed possible. Benner suggests that 'RNA organisms' might still exist. Because such life forms would not need the biochemical machinery to produce proteins, they would be much smaller than bacteria, hinting at possible environments we might look for them in. "Many minerals have pores that are smaller than one micron across. These might hold smaller RNA organisms," says Benner.
While more exotic worlds might well harbour life, Mars remains the best bet. "There was water on Mars when there was life on Earth," Benner points out. "This would not be particularly weird life, of course, in that it would be living in water, but it could easily be weird by Earth standards." However, Benner concedes that "a simple 'We don't know' is often the best answer for some questions. "Until life is encountered elsewhere, or aliens contact us, we will not have an independent second dataset. We may not even then, if the alien life itself shares an ancestor with life on Earth."
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Prof. Steven A Benner, Department of Chemistry, University of Florida
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=15568Press Release From: Current Opinion in Chemical Biology
Posted: Friday, November 26, 2004
image Billions of dollars are pumped into extraterrestrial exploration each year in the search for the ultimate prize - the discovery of life on other planets. But are we looking in all the right places? Prof Steven A Benner, who is working with NASA on the design of the next generation of Mars probes, believes that life could flourish without any need for water. In the December issue of Current Opinion in Chemical Biology, he and his colleagues at the University of Florida describe how organisms could survive in exotic environments such as on Saturn's moon Titan.
Benner and colleagues identify just two absolute requirements for life to exist: a suitable temperature range to allow chemical bonding, and an energy source (for example, the sun or radioactive decay). This contrasts with the common belief that life absolutely requires liquid water. Indeed, the authors speculate on the possibilities of life emerging in cold, icy environments, just like that of Titan, which meets both requirements and many 'weaker' ones. "Life may even exist in more exotic environments, such as the supercritical dihydrogen-helium mixtures found on gas giants," speculates Prof Benner, referring to the large gaseous planets such as Jupiter and Saturn. He even wonders if we may have missed exotic forms of life here on Earth. "This question is not as absurd as it might seem," says Benner. "Just 50 years ago...life in the deep ocean was not known."
Titan, currently being studied by the Cassini space probe, is perhaps an ideal place to look for life. The stunning pictures and data already sent back from the moon suggest a world of yellow clouds and oily black methane lakes, an environment that is thought to resemble that of the Earth billions of years ago. This puzzling moon is too cold for large quantities of liquid water to exist, however, which for many probably rules out life. Humans and, indeed, simple bacteria are mostly made up of water, so it is difficult to envisage life without it. But Benner believes this focus on water can blinker the search. "Why not use the hydrocarbons that are naturally liquid on Titan as a solvent for life directly?," he muses. "In many senses, hydrocarbon solvents are better than water for managing complex organic chemical reactivity."
We will soon know more. Next month, the European-built Huygens probe will detach from Cassini and touch down, or perhaps splash down, on Titan's surface. "The Huygens mission will be the first real input into this field for some time. Its potential for providing an 'Aha!' experience with respect to weird life is enormous," says Benner.
All life on Earth is widely supposed to have descended from a common ancestor. One consequence of this is that every organism uses the same general biochemistry. For example, all forms of life make use of proteins made from the same set of building blocks. But this may not be the only way to do things. Could creatures exist elsewhere in the Universe with a completely different biochemistry? Experiments in recent years have partly addressed such questions by re-engineering protein and DNA systems. For example, alternative amino acids to those found in living systems are capable of standing in for their natural counterparts. Professor Benner and colleagues now provide a wide-ranging exploration of just how far the chemistry of life can be pushed. "Is water necessary? Is carbon essential? Why not silicon?," asks Benner. One of the leading theories on the origins of life supposes that the earliest organisms used RNA instead of DNA to pass on their genetic information and to catalyse reactions. If this is correct, it demonstrates that alternative biochemistries are indeed possible. Benner suggests that 'RNA organisms' might still exist. Because such life forms would not need the biochemical machinery to produce proteins, they would be much smaller than bacteria, hinting at possible environments we might look for them in. "Many minerals have pores that are smaller than one micron across. These might hold smaller RNA organisms," says Benner.
While more exotic worlds might well harbour life, Mars remains the best bet. "There was water on Mars when there was life on Earth," Benner points out. "This would not be particularly weird life, of course, in that it would be living in water, but it could easily be weird by Earth standards." However, Benner concedes that "a simple 'We don't know' is often the best answer for some questions. "Until life is encountered elsewhere, or aliens contact us, we will not have an independent second dataset. We may not even then, if the alien life itself shares an ancestor with life on Earth."
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Prof. Steven A Benner, Department of Chemistry, University of Florida
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Yeah, I'm aware. We have a universe to explore and "follow the water" is the best way to find life as we know it.Yea, i think id buy more where theres water, theres prob life
More than if theres not water. Theres no life
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=15568
More than if theres not water. Theres no life
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=15568
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