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post 1561052931 09-11-2018, 07:54 PM
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are you jason blaha's alt acc lmao
post 1561057741 09-11-2018, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By KingKringe⏩
are you jason blaha's alt acc lmao
So because I agree with a YouTuber's fitness philosophies means that it must be me in disguise?

I must be a lot of people at once then.
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I like wide and narrow neutral grip the most but work conventional wide and reverse narrow in as well.

I really like single arm with supination. You get a nasty stretch at the top and can really pull the elbow in tight at the bottom.
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post 1561059491 09-11-2018, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted By PiscesNinja⏩
Imagine you need to pull yourself up onto a ledge. Are you going to use a narrow grip, or a wide grip?
Answer is easy..

wide grip for maximum lat penetration
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post 1561059551 09-11-2018, 09:44 PM
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because wide grip works your rear delts too and I can't be ****ed to add in face pulls or rear delt flyes to my workout
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Originally Posted By PiscesNinja⏩
It does though.

Say you can do 5 wide grip pull-ups, but you can do 7 close grip.

That's an extra 40% volume, AND through a longer range of motion.

Keep in mind the biceps are a smaller muscle.



That is one of the dumbest posts I have ever read.

You really don't think new data on exercise science has come out since the 70s!?

Also I guess it's impossible to know about things that aren't in line with your goals. Must mean I don't know what a squat, bench press, or deadlift is because I'm not a powerlifter.

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post 1561063541 09-11-2018, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted By PiscesNinja⏩
You really don't think new data on exercise science has come out since the 70s!?
So Jason Blaha's exercise science data has disproved Newtonian mechanics . lol
post 1561066761 09-12-2018, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
I like wide and narrow neutral grip the most but work conventional wide and reverse narrow in as well.

I really like single arm with supination. You get a nasty stretch at the top and can really pull the elbow in tight at the bottom.
Stretch at the top? You mean the point of the movement where the lats arecontracting the most?
Originally Posted By irollurmom⏩
because wide grip works your rear delts too and I can't be ****ed to add in face pulls or rear delt flyes to my workout
You really don't think close grip pull-ups work your rear delts? What about rows?

I'm not sure what you're doing if you're not working your rear delts, but it sure isn't pull-ups.
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It's about the virtual middle finger, not the quantity of rep points deducted.
Originally Posted By NRBK⏩
So Jason Blaha's exercise science data has disproved Newtonian mechanics . lol
Are you going to elaborate on that, or are you just going to walk into this thread, fart and walk out?
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Originally Posted By hughgainz⏩
What on God's green earth are you saying... 180 degrees is 180 degrees... it doesn't matter where you start it... also, no one's arm can actually bend 180 degrees...
Over 50% of the world’s population can bend their elbow 180 degrees. Women.
This is the misc, how are people unaware of the number one tranny test? I can, of course, understand how you kunts are unaware of women, however.
post 1561069511 09-12-2018, 02:40 AM
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Blaha could quote every scientific journal ever written and I still wouldn't listen to word that dumb muppet has to say.

Guy has been working out for how many years and still looks like absolute dog chit.
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Originally Posted By JPeeper⏩
Blaha could quote every scientific journal ever written and I still wouldn't listen to word that dumb muppet has to say.

Guy has been working out for how many years and still looks like absolute dog chit.
Blaha's big as phuck. He simply has excess bodyfat and chit insertions/genetics
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Originally Posted By PiscesNinja⏩
Blaha's big as phuck. He simply has excess bodyfat and chit insertions/genetics
I can't for the life of me fathom why you are not red.
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I prefer chin-ups to pull-ups. If I do do pull-ups, they are with a grip just outside of shoulder width. Wide-grip murders my shoulders, elbow and biceps - must be that lever length of piece.
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Originally Posted By PiscesNinja⏩
Stretch at the top? You mean the point of the movement where the lats arecontracting the most?
When you have a single handle instead of a bar that one hand can stretch much higher and you can feel the whole side of your back stretch, especially if you pronate your hand.

Same thing at the bottom. Since its just one handle you can pull the elbow down further, almost to the hip. If you supinate while doing this it is easy to pull the elbow right against you body and squeeze.
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Originally Posted By KingKringe⏩
are you jason blaha's alt acc lmao
The writing style does have similarities.
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I've seen good results from wide grip pull-ups but it did take me a while to open up my shoulders and back enough to use everything effectively. Lack of ROM was causing me to mostly use my arms for a long time and I was terrible at them
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Originally Posted By PiscesNinja⏩
Blaha's big as phuck. He simply has excess bodyfat and chit insertions/genetics

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Originally Posted By PiscesNinja⏩
It does though.

Say you can do 5 wide grip pull-ups, but you can do 7 close grip.

That's an extra 40% volume, AND through a longer range of motion.

Keep in mind the biceps are a smaller muscle.



That is one of the dumbest posts I have ever read.

You really don't think new data on exercise science has come out since the 70s!?

Also I guess it's impossible to know about things that aren't in line with your goals. Must mean I don't know what a squat, bench press, or deadlift is because I'm not a powerlifter.

Negged.
When it comes to hypertrophy the goal isn't making an exercise easier or moving more weight or more reps. There is a reason why IFBB pro's talk about a 'mind to muscle connection' and how they feel certain grips or exercises more in certain places. The goal is making the movement as hard as possible with the least amount of weight and progressing from that point. The true key to bodybuilding is literally holding a weight/form of resistance and contracting the desired muscle. If weight mattered everyone winning bodybuilding shows would be top tier power-lifters.




I get more lat development out of 6 sets of 10 reps with an 'assisted' pull up (pin in 50/60lbs worth of plates) hands wider then shoulders. Then I do with 10 sets of 10 reps on a pullup or chinup with a neutral or shoulder width grip. By your logic doing 4 more sets and all of them unassisted should be more effective at building muscle... But its not.





The problem with the 'exercise science' crowd is none of them are on a stage winning shows left and right. And I'm not aware of any of them that are coaching Mr Olympia competitors either. Maybe offering nutrition guidance but as far as lifting.....
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