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post 1561051831 09-11-2018, 07:37 PM
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Honestly man youre fine. I did rfl diet for most of my cuts and my continued cutting down. Calling it an eating order is extreme. The key is you need to be able to then transition after it into a decent diet and not just binge back up.

Id recommend reading the book and not winging it so much. But Lyle has pretty much said he didn't notice much between dirty refeeds and clean refeeds. Id recommend finding his recommendations for it macros wise and stick close as you can until you get the hang of the diet.

Also check out his forum for a lot of good info. Just google lyle forum and you'll see it.

Feel free to ask questions. I've down stints of RFL maybe 20-30 times.
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post 1561053691 09-11-2018, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted By ssg10587⏩
Honestly man youre fine. I did rfl diet for most of my cuts and my continued cutting down. Calling it an eating order is extreme. The key is you need to be able to then transition after it into a decent diet and not just binge back up.

Id recommend reading the book and not winging it so much. But Lyle has pretty much said he didn't notice much between dirty refeeds and clean refeeds. Id recommend finding his recommendations for it macros wise and stick close as you can until you get the hang of the diet.

Also check out his forum for a lot of good info. Just google lyle forum and you'll see it.

Feel free to ask questions. I've down stints of RFL maybe 20-30 times.
thank you bruh, this is what I was looking for itt,
Question, should I up my vitamins and fish oils?
And ya i see a pizza and alcohol is a no go haha, planning up something nice so when I do I'll post it itt.
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post 1561056031 09-11-2018, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
thank you bruh, this is what I was looking for itt,
Question, should I up my vitamins and fish oils?
And ya i see a pizza and alcohol is a no go haha, planning up something nice so when I do I'll post it itt.
Lyle recommends 10 grams of fish oil (of the regular dose ones) and more potassium.

I do fish oil, multi and iodine then zinc before bed.
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post 1561056221 09-11-2018, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted By ssg10587⏩
Lyle recommends 10 grams of fish oil (of the regular dose ones) and more potassium.

I do fish oil, multi and iodine then zinc before bed.
thanks bruh, ima look for good clifs of his book and that forum tonight.
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post 1561058861 09-11-2018, 09:31 PM
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Also any coffee limits?
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post 1561059221 09-11-2018, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
Also any coffee limits?
Nope. You can do intermittent fasting with it or not, whatever you prefer.

Coffee and tea are unlimited. Some sugarfree gum is okay but try to keep it limited. And try to get a good amount of leafy greens as low calorie and will help w fullness.
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post 1561059391 09-11-2018, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted By ssg10587⏩
Nope. You can do intermittent fasting with it or not, whatever you prefer.

Coffee and tea are unlimited. Some sugarfree gum is okay but try to keep it limited. And try to get a good amount of leafy greens as low calorie and will help w fullness.
ight bruh, I'm eating 1 pound chicken some sugar free jello low fat cheese and coffee. Ganna get some greenies tomorrow
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post 1561068351 09-12-2018, 01:50 AM
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Alright so refeed, breaking psmf to go back to normal lean bulk diet. 132 fat 2500 cals 160 carbs, maybe up that to 200, and like 160 grams protein

Would be shrimp alfredo, and 2 lobster tails and patato with butter and cheese from red lobster. Thoughts ?

Edit their website says there lobster tails have a good bit of fat, 34g a piece, that true?
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post 1561074931 09-12-2018, 05:39 AM
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What up boisss, ending day 2 with a protein shake. Bed time more on this later today
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BBQ sauce and low fat cheese on PSMF

lmao
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
BBQ sauce and low fat cheese on PSMF

lmao
you're a rustled *******, did you check the nutrition in the bbq sauce.

Edit: you weren't rustled until I said your opinion means nothing to me = rustled
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
you're a rustled *******, did you check the nutrition in the bbq sauce.

Edit: you weren't rustled until I said your opinion means nothing to me = rustled
If thinking that helps you cope, go for it

I'm over here having a good laugh at how stupid and cringey you are. Getting pure joy out of this thread

"I'm going to refeed at red lobster". lmao. I can't get enough. Is your grandma taking you there?
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
you're a rustled *******, did you check the nutrition in the bbq sauce.

Edit: you weren't rustled until I said your opinion means nothing to me = rustled
you really are a stupid *******, the dude you are talking to has more experience and is bigger than half the people itt put together. And the other guys who have actually been shredded have called you retarded as well but some how you think you're gonna prove everyone wrong
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Shutting this down.

The extreme negativity, mysogany, hate, and pure idiocy a lot of you "men" post here daily truly makes me cringe Irl.

The reality here is: OP found a crash diet he loves and wanted to try. Did it in an unconventional venue, and it will be a success. Good for him! Don't be such a negative ******* for the sake of beig a dick...

The insane amount of comments degrading bhicks3712 also has to stop. I'll begin mass banning for those comments when I see them. So knock it off.

OP has more life experience than the vast majority of the misc, with the average age being around 22, and knows his dietary requirements better than anyone here. Who the fuk are you to tear him down? Get a life. Truly.


OP. I wish you the best of luck. It sounds like you've found a winner.
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
you're a rustled *******, did you check the nutrition in the bbq sauce.

Edit: you weren't rustled until I said your opinion means nothing to me = rustled
He's just frustrated at your willful idiocy. You don't see it, of course, but when you're done spinning your wheels, maybe you'll actually listen to some of the people here giving you good advice.

I don't personally hold a thing against you, you seem young and stupid but I've been both in the past, possibly even now (not young but ignorant), so that isn't a particularly damning judgement.

Overall you seem completely oblivious and unwilling to make any meaningful sacrifice, even for a short term like a handful of weeks or the two or three months of cutting that you probably need to make actual progress.

Here's the thing: It's going to cause you to fail and we all see it. Jumping into a cut (when you're already lacking mass anyway), expecting a single week will make a difference, even thinking about pizza and beer during this phase, being berated about it and then countering with jello, processed cheese, BBQ sauce and Red fuking Lobster, it's like we're dealing with someone who is functionally retarded -- and at least as far as nutrition is concerned, you are absolutely bottom of the barrel, completely lacking even the beginning of knowledge and Hell bent on doing everything, and I mean everything, completely wrong.

This isn't personal, let's not make it so with the butthurt attacks, I'm not attacking you, I'm attacking your attitude. The good news for you is this, we all learn from failure and you're about to learn a whole lot, potentially. So you do got that going for you.
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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩
you really are a stupid *******, the dude you are talking to has more experience and is bigger than half the people itt put together. And the other guys who have actually been shredded have called you retarded as well but some how you think you're gonna prove everyone wrong
ya guy thanks let's all make this happen, next
Originally Posted By arn710⏩
If thinking that helps you cope, go for it

I'm over here having a good laugh at how stupid and cringey you are. Getting pure joy out of this thread

"I'm going to refeed at red lobster". lmao. I can't get enough. Is your grandma taking you there?
she probably would if I asked her tbh, I'm done with you next *******
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
He's just frustrated at your willful idiocy. You don't see it, of course, but when you're done spinning your wheels, maybe you'll actually listen to some of the people here giving you good advice.

I don't personally hold a thing against you, you seem young and stupid but I've been both in the past, possibly even now (not young but ignorant), so that isn't a particularly damning judgement.

Overall you seem completely oblivious and unwilling to make any meaningful sacrifice, even for a short term like a handful of weeks or the two or three months of cutting that you probably need to make actual progress.

Here's the thing: It's going to cause you to fail and we all see it. Jumping into a cut (when you're already lacking mass anyway), expecting a single week will make a difference, even thinking about pizza and beer during this phase, being berated about it and then countering with jello, processed cheese, BBQ sauce and Red fuking Lobster, it's like we're dealing with someone who is functionally retarded -- and at least as far as nutrition is concerned, you are absolutely bottom of the barrel, completely lacking even the beginning of knowledge and Hell bent on doing everything, and I mean everything, completely wrong.

This isn't personal, let's not make it so with the butthurt attacks, I'm not attacking you, I'm attacking your attitude. The good news for you is this, we all learn from failure and you're about to learn a whole lot, potentially. So you do got that going for you.
get over the pizza and **** ******* gotdamn, lol ****s changed and been moved on from. I don't need to cut, I'm doing this because I want to so 1 week cut wont do **** but make me ready to continue lean bulk. Now you fuks read my post as I finish it, fail, or do whatever I want to do
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Jello, fat free string cheese, and bbq sauce with barely any nutrient were recommended to me by someone who has done this cut multiple times so I'm good thanks
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Originally Posted By PAU1⏩
Shutting this down.

The extreme negativity, mysogany, hate, and pure idiocy a lot of you "men" post here daily truly makes me cringe Irl.

The reality here is: OP found a crash diet he loves and wanted to try. Did it in an unconventional venue, and it will be a success. Good for him! Don't be such a negative ******* for the sake of beig a dick...

The insane amount of comments degrading bhicks3712 also has to stop. I'll begin mass banning for those comments when I see them. So knock it off.

OP has more life experience than the vast majority of the misc, with the average age being around 22, and knows his dietary requirements better than anyone here. Who the fuk are you to tear him down? Get a life. Truly.


OP. I wish you the best of luck. It sounds like you've found a winner.
fuk ya doggie, the man with since right here,


...wait
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
she probably would if I asked her tbh, I'm done with you next *******
Nah. I'm going to keep posting and bumping this thread so everyone can laugh at you

What is your event that you're "cutting" for?
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Nah. I'm going to keep posting and bumping this thread so everyone can laugh at you

What is your event that you're "cutting" for?
cool bruh, more ppl that can learn how to do a good psmf cut and see the results. And nothing now
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
get over the pizza and **** ******* gotdamn, lol ****s changed and been moved on from. I don't need to cut, I'm doing this because I want to so 1 week cut wont do **** but make me ready to continue lean bulk. Now you fuks read my post as I finish it, fail, or do whatever I want to do
Like I said: Functionally retarded.
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
cool bruh, more ppl that can learn how to do a good psmf cut and see the results. And nothing now
lmao so you're just jerking off for no reason now. You're going to look amazing at Red Lobster. All the white trash grandmas are going to be mirin.

I did a proper PSMF round in 2016. Posted before and after pics on my IG. Lost 14 lbs in 12 days and kept losing after.
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
lmao so you're just jerking off for no reason now. You're going to look amazing at Red Lobster. All the white trash grandmas are going to be mirin.

I did a proper PSMF round in 2016. Posted before and after pics on my IG. Lost 14 lbs in 12 days and kept losing after.
that's awesome bruh srs, I dont want to do that long. My goal here is to loose a lil bit of fat and go back to my lean bulk, listen I'm all up for positive advice. Btw red lobster is high end to me bish venmo me money and I'll go somewhere nicer
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Anyway, update on day 3 work out. I drank a proton shake before going and a jello. 2 carbs, 25 protons, like 3 fat. Was worn out but still got a decent work out in. Can notice the fatigue pretty good but pushing threw. Going to drink another protein shake and eat some greenies
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Lol alright bruhs, here is the new deal until I learn/read more. Saturday or sunday will be refeed day. Going to eat high in carbs under 50g in fat and be around 2300 cals for the first day of refeed, 2nd will be half the carbs, 3rd day will be 1/3 the carbs. Then for a week or so eat at maintenance and I will figure out my micros from there then work my way back to a lean bulk. Wish me luck

Edit. Day 3, don't enjoy this but looking in the mirror already is nice. If you can do this diet and not fook up at the ending 100% enjoy because you have solid self control. Ganna keep marching on will post updates
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Do the refeed, then go to your maintenance if you know your "finished cut maintenance aka metabolic adaption maintenance" and bump up calories to normal maintenance within a week or two.
If you don't know your maintenance then go by 14-16kcal/lb (depending on activity) and subtract 10% from that number and then work your way up to normal maintenance within a week or two.

Or you could skip the refeed, go straight to normal maintenance with a high carb/low'ish fat intake while you wait for metabolic adaptions to fade (within a week or two), since you are pretty much glycogen depleted any surplus calories are more likely to go to glycogen replenishment instead of fat gain. But you won't get glycogen supercompensation by doing that route, if you wanted some good post-cut pics.

The goal is to get back to your maintenance kcals asap without overshooting it (assuming you fear fat gain), you don't reverse diet as that is just a waste of time and extends the period you are in a deficit.


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