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post 1562901761 10-04-2018, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted By EmmaW4tson
You'll get the worse of the people who were going around in groups killing, looting and pillaging. The best and most hardened of these guys will start looking for better areas to plunder and they will follow groups of people into the wilds, inc Alaska. Winter is your only salvation but how many of those would you survive up there?
BRO, it's not even remotely possible to get to Alaska from a major city in the US or Canada in this imaginary situation. It's over 3000 miles in a straight line from Chicago to the center of Alaska. Imagine walking from your house to Iran. Not going to happen. Plus Alaska is SO big no one could ever plunder a meaningful amount of it.

Unfortunately Alaska already seems to have a ton of unsavory characters in it, for whatever reason (source: watching Alaska State Troopers). But they're in the towns and don't appear to have any ability to survive without assistance.
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Originally Posted By Destor
Red has a point, strength in numbers (big numbers) is going to be your only real hope for survival. Even if you're extremely well armed, if you're solo or with a small group, you're on the defensive against other groups who will surely be similarly armed and very determined. If you have a lot of resources like dude above with the acreage, you're an absolutely massive target


The only other feasible option would be going 100% offense and staying mobile
Actually the consensus is the most effective way to survive some kind of major upheaval of civilization would be a resident in some small town where farming/ranching is common. Watch the TV show Jericho (precisely about this kind of stuff). Basically a down with 3-7K people in the midwest is your best bet. Show should still be on Netflix.
post 1562905531 10-04-2018, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah
cash? wtf would anyone want cash for
More for purchasing more airplane fuel if necessary in flyover states where rioting is less likely to happen.

There will still be order in small town Nebraska or Wyoming. Cash will still be accepted. Your credit cards will not.
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post 1562905991 10-04-2018, 06:05 PM
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Finding water would be easy as fuark and in this situation I'd have no problem eating anything I need to. Plus I did well in scouts. Yeah I'm good.
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post 1562908171 10-04-2018, 06:35 PM
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Amusingly, people think no running water, no gas, no electric, no tv, no hot showers, no playstation, would be the end of civilization.... when in reality, most of human history were without these things.

Yes people would freak out, but it wouldn't necessarily be the end.
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post 1562908251 10-04-2018, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
I think everything would be civil and neighbor would help neighbor, until about the 1 week mark, at which point people will start to worry that things aren't going to go back to normal and that they themselves might not make it. That's when you stop giving away water to your friends/acquaintances who ask for it. You start carrying a gun at all times. You start watching people suspiciously. Around the 1 week point is when I think violence begins. Small groups will want to take what others have. I'd probably die in a gunfight at this point.

I might head for federal state park lands before this point. Driving until I run out of gas, then on foot.
Lol, maybe in poverty US. In Japan they'd probably help each other out and rebuild their society in a week.
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I'd probably die after two days because I NEED TO SHOWER DAILY or I can't even. If I could take a bath of some sort, I'd be good to go.
Starbucks keeps making pumpkin spice lattes even in the apocalypse, right?

Otherwise I literally couldn't even.
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post 1562908261 10-04-2018, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
If right now, all of you water taps stopped working, the electricity went off (and stayed off), natural gas stopped working, and police/law enforcement ceased to be effective at controlling the population, could you survive for 6 months?

Assume no gasoline because the pumps at the stations are dead from lack of electricity and will soon be looted anyway. Stores only have enough food until the looters are done with them in the next 24-48 hours. You don't know what has caused all of it or how long it will last.

Can you survive right now with what you have and know? Can you survive where you are? If not, what would you do? Where would you go? Really think about it... what if this were to happen today, maybe within a minute of you reading this, would you be fuarked? Or would you find a way to make it? How??

I'd be fuarked. I can survive a week maybe. After that, I have no idea what I'd do for clean drinking water. Maybe I could rig up a still-like system and boil some stream water using a wood fire.
I would probably be dead in a few weeks I have two sisters so I would have to protect them from a bunch of rapist and crazies ;__;
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post 1562909791 10-04-2018, 06:59 PM
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Would cannibalize my children within 30 minutes and then die of thirst 3 days later srs
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post 1562910331 10-04-2018, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted By SippyCups
Would cannibalize my children within 30 minutes and then die of thirst 3 days later srs
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post 1562910501 10-04-2018, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Deathguard
Amusingly, people think no running water, no gas, no electric, no tv, no hot showers, no playstation, would be the end of civilization.... when in reality, most of human history were without these things.

Yes people would freak out, but it wouldn't necessarily be the end.
People didn't live in major cities and suburbs then - population density was much much lower. There was also more arable land available and people had the skills to live off of it. Without water / gas / electric / food deliveries, literally half of everyone in every major city would be dead within a couple of weeks.
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post 1562915071 10-04-2018, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah
cash? wtf would anyone want cash for
Depends on the scenario, doesn't it? If it's full on zombie apocalypse or Mad Max scenario, then no, cash might not do you any good. But even then, there's always someone trying to make a profit in a disaster, at least at the onset. Trade your cash for something he has.
Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja
People didn't live in major cities and suburbs then - population density was much much lower. There was also more arable land available and people had the skills to live off of it. Without water / gas / electric / food deliveries, literally half of everyone in every major city would be dead within a couple of weeks.
This. The population is way too high and the knowledge base for living like that way too low.
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post 1562920891 10-04-2018, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted By EmmaW4tson
You'll get the worse of the people who were going around in groups killing, looting and pillaging. The best and most hardened of these guys will start looking for better areas to plunder and they will follow groups of people into the wilds, inc Alaska. Winter is your only salvation but how many of those would you survive up there?
Lolol a buncha city clowns coming to the wilderness and u think we wld have to worry?

Brb hava house full of loaded guns with 1000s of rounds of ammo.

Brb know the geography inside out and theres only 1 road for 500 miles here and in general,all the north.

Brb anyone coming up here for trouble would be turned in bear and wolf food with ease.tottally srs.

Brb lived 32 winters here so whats another 32?
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post 1562921761 10-04-2018, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M
1 of which is good for like 10,000 gallons in it's lifetime.
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post 1562922211 10-04-2018, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted By WhirlwindTobias
Lifestraw.
I think you need fresh water to prime it though. So once that's gone, you can't use them.
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post 1562922281 10-04-2018, 10:28 PM
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this is my dream scenario srs
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post 1562922631 10-04-2018, 10:40 PM
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So I've done a tonne of long distance walking and wild camping in a bivvy bag. I own an ice axe and a knife bigger than proudmanlets shaft. I've gone days eating only rice, couscous, and bread for breakfast. Turned my phone off for over a week. I'd have a fighting chance mentally.

I'd have hunting experience if it weren't illegal (thanks Europe), and I'd finally get to make fire (thanks for making fires illegal in NP's too) so I've got no qualms with killing for survival.

I've never used bottled water for hydration, only ever had problems finding water when walking along summit. I have several water bottles so I'd be able to stock up on 5-6 liters at a time.

Humans are the defining factor in this.
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post 1562922931 10-04-2018, 10:50 PM
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I love survival chit.

I was taught at a young age. I definitely could.

The only that would be unaccounted for is looters and chit while you sleep, that makes the situation much more precarious and dangerous. Youd need some legit shelter
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
holy crap @ demonic ritual, lol.

I've found an ampitheater in the forests west of lake tahoe but nobody was there. It was a giant boulder with logs arranged like benches in front.

Luckily illegal growers catch you early and give you a warning. Kinda stupid that you have to worry about a criminal syndicate while trying to enjoy nature. You don't wanna be anywhere near those chemicals they use anyways tho.
Someone should make a thread "things encountered in the wilderness" or something. I've come across a lot of strange things. I've found a graveyard I guess you'd call it with dozens of dead charred rats like they were grilled or something hung in fishing string red braided wire nooses. I was with a girl actually and it killed the mood.

Another time I was camping in north central Florida with a friend and his younger brother. We were in the tent sleeping and I woke up hearing a distinct 2 feet walking up to our tent rolling feet heel to toe to try to creep. The steps stop next to my head and I turn to my back and look up to see a large silhouette standing above me. I let out an involuntary scream and the "person" ran away. After that I dont go into the forest anymore without a piece.
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I've already planned out how to obtain a harem of women in this situation.
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cash would only be good for burning in a shtf situation
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M
I have about 6 months worth of MREs in a crawl space in my home srs. A famine doesn't seem likely, but you never know and they are easy to take hiking or whatever. I get water from a well so that isn't too hard. Assuming it didn't work for some reason I have a couple of water filtering options from hiking. 1 of which is good for like 10,000 gallons in it's lifetime.
I don't think food will be much of a problem but it really depends on how long this apocalypse lasts and dealing with marrauders and scumbags trying to steal stuff kill you. I think that after about the 6 month mark I probably would have killed myself especially if there seems to be no end in sight. I mean, what if it lasts 10 years? I don't want to live like the movieThe Roadwhere I have to scrounge for food and hide from gangs of cannibals.


The only people that will truly survive are the rich that live on the coasts that can just sail their 100' yacht full of food and fuel to the middle of the ocean, and if they run out of food they can just fish. I don't even think doomsday preppers would be safe even the ones with a cashe of weapons stockpiled. they WILL run out of ammo eventually by simply missing their target, and the bodies piling up around their homes will be a sign to stay away, but also a sign that they have food and people will get desperate to take it, and probably form a large clan to overrun your house.
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Would just form a post-apocalyptic gang and command them to rob families and old people for all their chit, leaving them to die of thirst and hunger in the process while we prosper and make territory gainz
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Originally Posted By Caeculus
Another time I was camping in north central Florida with a friend and his younger brother. We were in the tent sleeping and I woke up hearing a distinct 2 feet walking up to our tent rolling feet heel to toe to try to creep. The steps stop next to my head and I turn to my back and look up to see a large silhouette standing above me. I let out an involuntary scream and the "person" ran away. After that I dont go into the forest anymore without a piece.
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Originally Posted By Layne205
This is literally the worst plan I've ever heard. BRB apocalypse is here, I'm gonna pop out to Wallgreen's. Stores will be occupied by people willing and able to kill everyone who comes around. The only way you'll survive is if one of them is gay and wants to tie you up for a sex slave.
What dumbass would try to kill me when I have 17 rounds + 2 extra mags You try killing me, I will kill you, let's have a mutual agreement to not fuk with each other.

Do most people even conceal carry?
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Well the first order of business b if to grab your nuts and get ready to fight for survival

Next step is to prey on the weak. Many of the weak will be dead soon anyway so you have to take from them and build your stash while the gettin' is good
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I do a decent amount of backpacking and fishing in the mountains that are within a few hours walk of my house. If I can master my magnesium fire starter or get some kind of protected fire going, and make sure to retrieve all fishing lures (the water is very clear and not all that deep typically), I would think I could survive nearly indefinitely provided I can get into the wilderness without being attacked on the way. I think I have a few hundred 9mm rounds for my ruger as well.

Would probably die of illness or something eventually.
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