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Thread: The stock market is on the edge of a cliff - don't say Big Ern' didn't warn you (srs)

post 1563491631 10-11-2018, 10:34 PM
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Jesus the amount of potato in this thread is going to put my state out of business...

Yes the market it is over valued. It has been over valued for a while.

Anyone that claiming to know when it will crash is retarded... OP has said some incredibly retarded chit in this thread...
post 1563492201 10-11-2018, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
Jesus the amount of potato in this thread is going to put my state out of business...

Yes the market it is over valued. It has been over valued for a while.

Anyone that claiming to know when it will crash is retarded... OP has said some incredibly retarded chit in this thread...
Obviously no one knows, but probability exists. What do you think are the chances that the market holds out for at least 36 more months without a major crash? 5%-10%?
post 1563493571 10-11-2018, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Obviously no one knows, but probability exists. What do you think are the chances that the market holds out for at least 36 more months without a major crash? 5%-10%?
25% or so... The market is over valued and I honestly am surprised it hasn't crashed yet....

HOWEVER... After it crashes it will rebound in a couple of years. People will over buy to a new high... It will crash... Rebound... New high... crash... rebound.

Most of us are about 30 years old and will probably see another 5 crashes before we retire. Big fuking deal.

If you are sooo convinced banks now own the retirement game just go buy leveraged shares of financial equities and profit....
post 1563493801 10-11-2018, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted By flexnation⏩
OP is correct. Or I should say that I agree with him, not necessarily correct as no one knows when the crash will happen for sure or how severe it'll be.

Real Estate market is turning hard right now in Portland. Im recommending all my sellers to sell ASAP and all my buyers to hold off from making a purchase unless they're okay potentially being upside down in a couple of years.

We've had a solid wave brahs. Stack cash now and profit later.
im seeing it here in the DFW metro too... and we are usually immune to big waves... its like someone hit the brakes hard in just the last few months... inventory is growing fast, houses dropping prices, and some houses that should sell asap just have us scratching our heads...
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post 1563494691 10-11-2018, 11:49 PM
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OP is a part of the conspiracy ....




THREAD: What will the October surprise be?
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...01&pagenumber=
Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
You can bet every single cent you have and your children too that the Leftist and Globalist Lunatics are cooking up a magic October surprise against the Republicans, especially with things showing their blue wave may be nonexistent or even a red tsunami instead.



Pay someone close to Trump or in leadership of the RNC a couple hundred grand or a million to resign and then conveniently tell a whole big ole whopper of a fish tale story?

Conspiracy to cause the stock market to crash via a massive, coordinated selloff?

Fabricated, computer generated 'recordings' 'leaked' to the press with the RNC or Trump saying something horrible, just horrible I tell ya!?



What's it gonna be?
Don't sell.

That's exactly what the enemy wants to happen.
post 1563496231 10-12-2018, 12:30 AM
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There's no mystery here. Fed raises rates, debt service becomes unsustainable.

Leverage is so often a house of cards. Absolutely everything is overly leveraged these days.

Does anyone really believe we have a fundamentally sound economy?

Student loan debt: 1.5 trillion, higher than 2008
Credit card debt: 1 trillion, higher than 2008
Auto loan debt: 1.2 trillion, higher than 2008
Mortgage debt: 15.2 trillion, higher than 2008
Corporate debt has increased by 2.5 trillion or 40% since 2008
US national debt is 21.4 trillion, highest ever ofc
Trade deficit: 50 billion

The total derivatives market is like 1.2 quadrillion lol

All of this chit is with wages remaining stagnant over the last decade.

What happens when debt balloons while wages stay the same and debt service payments increase due to rates rising?

Make Europe Germany Again
post 1563496411 10-12-2018, 12:37 AM
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post 1563496571 10-12-2018, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted By BloatmaxX⏩
Get a Roth IRA
Invest the Max $5,500 every year
100% in S&P 500 or Total Stock Market
Ignore all market booms and busts
Wait 40 years
This, 100% in vtsax

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post 1563499381 10-12-2018, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
Buy things when they are a good deal and sell them when they are overpriced
But it’s not a good deal yet, the market has barley gone down...
Deserve what get
post 1563499841 10-12-2018, 03:21 AM
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sell so i can buy in at lower rates and reap the rewards when it recovers pls
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Originally Posted By flexnation⏩
OP is correct. Or I should say that I agree with him, not necessarily correct as no one knows when the crash will happen for sure or how severe it'll be.

Real Estate market is turning hard right now in Portland. Im recommending all my sellers to sell ASAP and all my buyers to hold off from making a purchase unless they're okay potentially being upside down in a couple of years.

We've had a solid wave brahs. Stack cash now and profit later.
Real estate in South East UK is crashing hard atm in the luxury homes market. Seeing a ton of houses up for sale £4M+ that just havent moved for a year or so.

Others are £2.5M and less than 6months later up at £1.45M with no bidders.

Others up at £1.75M then selling for £1.2M
post 1563501851 10-12-2018, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Driftbrah⏩
All of you buy now brahs explain this to me.

Everything's been in the red for the past month, why not wait until the market is starting to get consistently in the green again and then invest? That's exactly what Im going to do, everyone says buy now but no one will ever explain to me what's wrong with my plan.
Simple. Market timing never works. The pros can't get it right, and neither will you. You'll wait too long and the market will have recovered.
post 1563501961 10-12-2018, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
OP is a part of the conspiracy ....




THREAD: What will the October surprise be?
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...01&pagenumber=








Don't sell.

That's exactly what the enemy wants to happen.
Lol that conspiracy, like all conspiracy theories, is grade A BS.

We all thought the big sell off would come when Trump got elected... and the S and P roared forward
post 1563502831 10-12-2018, 05:35 AM
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post 1563503021 10-12-2018, 05:39 AM
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My room mate plans to buy a house in a year and it makes no sense to me. Prices have been on the up and up
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post 1563503321 10-12-2018, 05:48 AM
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lol at people who sell right after the market crashes. That's exactly what you're not supposed to do.
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post 1563503521 10-12-2018, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted By A-man⏩
Lol that conspiracy, like all conspiracy theories, is grade A BS.

We all thought the big sell off would come when Trump got elected... and the S and P roared forward
that was because of a once off tax cut for drump's fellow swampers

there is absolutely nothing in the works to prop up this market going forward, expect an absolutely catastrophic death spiral from here, i'm talking dow at the 5000 level

we are headed into a depression that will span into the decades punters, the lost generations future historians will call this period

just absolutely horrifying stuff we are about to witness and worse yet experience
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Waiting patiently for the crash so I can buy all the goodies for 10 cents on the dollar.
post 1563503661 10-12-2018, 05:57 AM
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"Time in the market beats timing the market" is just a general rule. There are conditions when that rule goes out the window and right now is one of them imo. Shiller PE is over 30, 2nd highest of all time. Interest rates are rising quickly meaning debt repayments are going to shoot up and earnings growth is unsustainable. **** is going to go south at some point in the near future.
post 1563503761 10-12-2018, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin⏩
My room mate plans to buy a house in a year and it makes no sense to me. Prices have been on the up and up
Like the market it’s hard to time real estate. One would say buy after we get a correction but we don’t know when the next one will be.
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I'm scared, what do?
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post 1563504271 10-12-2018, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted By PowersKenny⏩
..last year, what about this year...lol..nice try
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
40 years ago, sure. The problem is that the banks want that money now. They've made that very clear and they've spent billions on politicians over the past decade. Do you think they're just going to let you keep it? Or rather, do you think there's any way you can stop them from taking it? The game is rigged against the private investor.
Originally Posted By BloatmaxX⏩
lol I hope you’re trolling
Retirement accounts have been raided in other parts of the world so there is some precedent.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
I'm scared, what do?
If you have money invested..... Don't you dare do a damn thing. Otherwise, buy some stocks!
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Originally Posted By StevieMe⏩
"Time in the market beats timing the market" is just a general rule. There are conditions when that rule goes out the window and right now is one of them imo. Shiller PE is over 30, 2nd highest of all time. Interest rates are rising quickly meaning debt repayments are going to shoot up and earnings growth is unsustainable. **** is going to go south at some point in the near future.
Have had that UTAD area marked since early-mid summer. Wyckoff ftw, though it could still be frauding and this is a nasty af shakeout but either way it's obvious supply entered the market in January

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Here’s the thing guys....people are pulling money out of the stock market now, but corporate earnings are off the charts this year. There’s going to be another run up of the stock market from record-breaking earnings reports over the next 6 months, then there are also going to be huge bonuses distributed in February next year for a variety of industries. These bonuses will drive up asset values even further, and my guess is this is what will finally bring things to a halt.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
I'm scared, what do?
stop limits on any current stocks you have...what are you comfortable losing?
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
Here’s the thing guys....people are pulling money out of the stock market now, but corporate earnings are off the charts this year. There’s going to be another run up of the stock market from record-breaking earnings reports over the next 6 months, then there are also going to be huge bonuses distributed in February next year for a variety of industries. These bonuses will drive up asset values even further, and my guess is this is what will finally bring things to a halt.
You forgot that a lot of the huge buybacks that were approved will start to take effect.

This market has a lot more upside than downside right know with the known risks and tailwinds. If tariffs start getting pulled back and China opens up their economy for US investment we’re gonna fly.

I’ve yet to see anyone identify an iminant risk other than what they or some analyst “feels” could happen. Bull runs don’t stop because they’ve hit some sort of time cap, we’d need some sort of large scale precipitating event. Interest rates are still historically low, banks are healthy and are properly leveraged, they’ll continue to lend.
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