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Thread: Ronnie Coleman might not ever walk again

post 1564407761 10-23-2018, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted By PKneyr⏩
I don't get how ppl get injured with DL...I feel it in my hamstrings mostly, never had back pain. Squats are what **** people up, back,knees and shoulders all in 1 recipe lol
This. Squatting is way more risky for your back than dl. I have degenerative disks and DL does not aggravate them. Squatting will put me out of the gym for a week.

edit: In fact DLing actually helped alleviate my back pain due to degenerative disks. Strengthening that core goes a long way. Doing ****ty form on any lifts will **** you up over time. So if you're going to do these compounds, you better pay close attention to form.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You're serious?
Very srs

If you kept up with him recently it was obvious he was getting surgery done to relieve some back pain from years of lifting

Now hes had several and cant walk

If you have seen how orthopedic fukkups work

They always try like 3 surgeries afterwards to fix it, then like 75% of the time it ends in amputation

Several of my old tradie coworkers are now missing toes and feet and fingers
post 1564408361 10-23-2018, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By batmanman⏩
Very srs

If you kept up with him recently it was obvious he was getting surgery done to relieve some back pain from years of lifting

Now hes had several and cant walk

If you have seen how orthopedic fukkups work

They always try like 3 surgeries afterwards to fix it, then like 75% of the time it ends in amputation

Several of my old tradie coworkers are now missing toes and feet and fingers
He's had 8 back surgeries. You dont get that many to relieve "some" back pain.
post 1564408491 10-23-2018, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
CalmWind described the details better than I did with the degenerative nature of putting heavy stress on the back over time.

But to simplify it a bit, just looking at it from a common sense standpoint - does it really seem reasonable to think that the human lower back is meant to take the brunt of 400-1,000lb lifts, good form or not? Let alone doing it multiple times per week for decades?

I think it's safe to say that that's horrible for your back whether or not you feel pain in the moment of doing it. I mean, look at athletes/entertainers/lifters of any kind who were particularly brutal on their bodies with lifting for a long time - football players, wrestlers, bodybuilders, powerlifters, strongmen - you name it, they all end up absolutely rekt prematuerly. Even The Mountain, who is 29 - I repeat, 29, not even in his 30's yet - talks about how he's in constant pain from what he puts his body through from lifting. Yet people brush it off like it won't/can't happen to them, lol.
Didn't know that about the Mountain.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
He's had 8 back surgeries. You dont get that many to relieve "some" back pain.
You do get that from not heeding doctors' advice though, lol. I don't know the extent of his surgeries though. Fusion?
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christ.

didn't the surgery replace some of his spine?
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
CalmWind described the details better than I did with the degenerative nature of putting heavy stress on the back over time.

But to simplify it a bit, just looking at it from a common sense standpoint - does it really seem reasonable to think that the human lower back is meant to take the brunt of 400-1,000lb lifts, good form or not? Let alone doing it multiple times per week for decades?

I think it's safe to say that that's horrible for your back whether or not you feel pain in the moment of doing it. I mean, look at athletes/entertainers/lifters of any kind who were particularly brutal on their bodies with lifting for a long time - football players, wrestlers, bodybuilders, powerlifters, strongmen - you name it, they all end up absolutely rekt prematuerly. Even The Mountain, who is 29 - I repeat, 29, not even in his 30's yet - talks about how he's in constant pain from what he puts his body through from lifting. Yet people brush it off like it won't/can't happen to them, lol.
These are competitive athletes who push themselves to the extreme, ofc they will have issues in their later days. Lifting moderate numbers, like 200kg DL, 160kg squat and a 120kg bench won't cripple you lol...How are you going to mention 400 and 1000 lbs in the same sentence, 400lbs DL is nothing for our bodies.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
He's had 8 back surgeries. You dont get that many to relieve "some" back pain.
yeah, you get that many because they ****ed up what should have been a 1 or 2 surgery thing

example: middle aged woman I worked with went to get a bone spur fixed near her heel Surg #1

she woke up and her toe hurt like a biitch

finally 2 months later doctors admit her toe has been broken all this time and they "didn't catch it"

Surg #2 goes in to get her toe bone replaced with like a titanium bone or something

wakes up and toe is still fukked, turns out they put it in upside down

Surg #3 gets toe bone put in the correct way

starts healing, not healing correctly

surg #4 to fix god knows what that didn't heal correctly

starts healing again, gets infected

surg #5 to remove infected tissue

not much toe left, cant walk

surg #6 amputation

now she has no big toe

this happens a lot and I see the same thing being true with Ronnie
post 1564409651 10-23-2018, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted By batmanman⏩
yeah, you get that many because they ****ed up what should have been a 1 or 2 surgery thing

example: middle aged woman I worked with went to get a bone spur fixed near her heel Surg #1

she woke up and her toe hurt like a biitch

finally 2 months later doctors admit her toe has been broken all this time and they "didn't catch it"

Surg #2 goes in to get her toe bone replaced with like a titanium bone or something

wakes up and toe is still fukked, turns out they put it in upside down

Surg #3 gets toe bone put in the correct way

starts healing, not healing correctly

surg #4 to fix god knows what that didn't heal correctly

starts healing again, gets infected

surg #5 to remove infected tissue

not much toe left, cant walk

surg #6 amputation

now she has no big toe

this happens a lot and I see the same thing being true with Ronnie
Except back surgery isn't as simple as that.
post 1564409711 10-23-2018, 09:33 AM
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Had pretty extensive shoulder surgery in March of 17, doc told me the next step was replacement... Really hard to hear that at the time, but glad it didn't come to that.

That was from my quest to bench 405 for reps.

Honestly, I look exactly the same now. Once you have a solid base of mass, you can maintain it working hard in the 10-12 rep range. I didn't realize that at the time, really could have used that info 10 years ago.

Can't even imagine what he must wake up feeling like everyday. Get well soon champ.
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post 1564409741 10-23-2018, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By repsDTGdaily⏩
You do get that from not heeding doctors' advice though, lol. I don't know the extent of his surgeries though. Fusion?
I don't know the details. I know it involved plates, and screws.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Except back surgery isn't as simple as that.
exactly, so even more chance for the surgeon to screw up
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Originally Posted By gharlow⏩
Had pretty extensive shoulder surgery in March of 17, doc told me the next step was replacement... Really hard to hear that at the time, but glad it didn't come to that.

That was from my quest to bench 405 for reps.

Honestly, I look exactly the same now. Once you have a solid base of mass, you can maintain it working hard in the 10-12 rep range. I didn't realize that at the time, really could have used that info 10 years ago.

Can't even imagine what he must wake up feeling like everyday. Get well soon champ.
He said he lives with constant pain, but he's somehow used to it.
post 1564409991 10-23-2018, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By batmanman⏩
exactly, so even more chance for the surgeon to screw up
Who says they screwed up? There are no guarantees that they will be successful.
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Originally Posted By SeymourGains⏩
Tell us more srs

There was this one teched out old guy in his 60s with a walking stick that hobbled around the gym i use to go to. He loaded up 8+ plates on chest supported tbar rows and use to do half reps but still trained hard. Saw him on his knees leaning in a bench one day almost unable to breath too.

Probably had a stroke by now or something srs
One guy could hardly walk due to fukked knees. Still came to the gym though. Eventually he needed a hip replacement too which went badly wrong. Apparently he woke up in absolute agony before the operation was finished and to make matters worse they had replaced the wrong hip.

Another dude who's always been huge and shredded can no longer walk without calipers but still trains upper body. His legs legitimately look like those of 9 year old polio victim.

Supplement induced bone rot is no joke.
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he trained with insane volume and insane weights with sketchy form for decades. he paid the price for sure, but at the same time has gone down as one of the greats
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Ronnie claims to have first developed problems in high school, and the heavy weights and grinders obviously didn't help. But it's pathetic to see absolute nobodies talk chit about him. 10 surgeries sounds like hell, but it still could have been worse.

His legacy will literally live forever, and that's all he cared about.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
i see people doing deadlifts and i shake my head. they don't know the damage they are doing to their spines. i know what back pain is like.... i've seen strong, tough military men, tough guys, fall to the knees, tears falling from their eyes in silent pain, unable to even move an inch, due to severe back pain. all you need to do is have bad form, and boom, you ruin your back. its such a risky thing to do
lol
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Guy has had so many issues from lifting that heavy, so many surgeries and Im sure every single time the doctor told him he needs to stop lifting so much and Im sure every time he didnt listen.

Sucks for him, but listen to your doctor.
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A HUGE portion of surgeons will push unnecessary surgery. Not saying he didn't need any but docs will exaggerate outcomes so you get the surgery and then often times the fine print says "btw you might not walk again" had several family members consider surgery for back pain but decided against it. Wonder if stem cell injections would be an option for Ronnie.
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Makes me envy 130lb 6ft twinks who will never put their joints or muscles under any kind of stress. These are the same people you see jogging in their 80's in winter.
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Blames the surgeons but doesn't mention that he's lifting heavy as soon as he's discharged against doctor's orders. He has an addiction that is destroying his quality of life and still somehow doesn't see it.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
Makes me envy 130lb 6ft twinks who will never put their joints or muscles under any kind of stress. These are the same people you see jogging in their 80's in winter.
Wouldn't be so sure of that, lol. Every day tasks could be stressful enough where they definitely don't look into their form when they go to pick a 40 lb box up off the floor.
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Originally Posted By Chocolatebearo⏩
Lesson and moral of the story: dont use steroids.
more like don't use barbells

i've seen at least 20 posts of natties destroying their backs on here over the years doing DLs. not sure how many were permanent injuries

i work with a guy with a fukked back and his life is absolutely miserable.

everything feels so much more natural when your hands can move in independent planes from each other. even chinups feel way better on your shoulders if you use rings
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
Good luck convincing 90% of posters on here to switch to DB's for most of their heavy work in order to preserve their bodies better lol. They'll just make soyboy jokes and chit on you for being "jealous" of their BB #'s.

The weird thing about it is, almost none of the hardcore BB backers deny that the fixed plane of motion weight machines/Smith for most lifts are horrible for your joints due to how unnatural the movements are. Despite that, they fail to comprehend that BB lifts fall in between the stress on the joints of stationary machine work and DB's/other single arm controlled lifts.
at some point you realize that you only get one body and you can't fukk it up. i have chitty knees from soccer but they don't hurt when i walk around, fukk sloots etc. so i have zero interest in building legs with anything other than cycling. don't care if dyel bird legs. means nothing compared to not limping around when i'm older. fukk that

it's not just bodybuilders. i do lots and lots of walking and i see tons (literally) of fat people every single day who have a thought process of "i'm fat, better start running" when they really should 1) fix their diet before exercising at all and 2) start walking and 3) not run until they lose weight and 4) not run on pavement ever even if they are lean
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That's ****ing scary man !

So what's the solution here boyos ? I've had my fun with 'heavy' lifting anyway. Going to focus on being fit tbh.

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Originally Posted By Loochi⏩
That's ****ing scary man !

So what's the solution here boyos ? I've had my fun with 'heavy' lifting anyway. Going to focus on being fit tbh.

In b4 cuck etc etc
personally, i lift in high rep ranges with dumbbells and don't do anything that feels like it's hurting the joint instead of the muscle. modify ROM and grip to make sure it feels comfortable throughout the whole movement

the reality is that you could be in the 99.99 physique percentile just being 12% and doing casual lifting of any kind
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