No one that ever became a person of importance "lived in reality."

A positive mindset, aka your reaction to the madness that is life, is the only thing you can truly control.

truuu

this is absurdly false.

A lot of people that end up "important" do so by a combination of luck, skill/talent, effort, and opportunism.

Being delusional about their life would only lead to bad outcomes. For every delusional fool that might somehow benefit, 100 others waste their lives because they didnt live with the facts of life. those are the starving artists etc

so you think the only options in life are to live in blind delusional, or LDAR?

How about just taking an honest assessment of yourself and your life and determine the best course of action? Which probably wont be LDAR, but it also wont be live with with irrational positivity that has no basis in reality

He doesnt have any evidence behind his claim that "nobody important lived in reality". what kind of baseless, nonsense claim is that?

People who become of importance typically have big advantages over other people. thats why they become who they are, for example just being smarter than most people, or having a lot of opportunity through dumb luck. delusion and denying reality is not a good thing

Disagree entirely op

Mindset is crucial to work ethic. Even if you will work hard at something whether you want to or not, mindset is the difference between doing it with a smile vs with a frown. That can be the difference between failure and getting promoted or a sloot taking notice of you.

No, as long as he says "meh I'll most likely fail but I'm going to do my best", there's nothing wrong with that.

If you are starting a business for example, the fact is your ARE most likely to fail, because something like 80%+ business fail within a few years. thats just an acknowledgement of the odds.

That shouldnt stop you from trying though.

however blindly believing you are destined to succeed, and then making bad bets because you are delusional, is potentially damaging

The irony in this post is on another level.

its not either or. You can acknowledge reality and still make the most of things and do your best.

You can hate your job and still make the most of it.

You can understand that most likely when you approach a girl you will get rejected, but still do your best.

I feel like too many people think lying to yourself is the only way you can be positive and thats not true. you can do the best you can while still living in reality

Opportunism, effort, and even luck are all dependent to some degree on mindset LMAO.

None, because I have neither the desire nor the ability to run a successful business and I understand that.

Too many people who dont have what it takes, waste their time/money/efforts anyway because they ARENT living in reality

true, yea brb going to the casino with a positive attitude will change the odds of luck.

Effort has nothing to do with mindset. You can do your best regardless of hown you feel about things.

Opportunism just means do your best when the time comes, but whether or not your best is enough is anybodys guess.

thats reality for your a$$

to be or not to be.. that is the question

cliche as fuk, but prob the biggest question in life. srs

How is my claim baseless nonsense? Just because I've never started a business doesnt mean the fact that most businesses fail is wrong.

Again mindset doesn't matter if nothing is happening and you only face failure. Some people literally never have positive experiences.

Mindset does not make your reality. I dont care what fairytales you tell yourself at night, they dont change a goddamn thing about reality.

Like I said which you ignored as an example: if you are starting a business you should.

1. understand and acknowledge the fact that odds are you wont succeed.
2. Do your best anyway.

what the hell is wrong with this. you think everyone should ignore cold hard facts and data?

Thats just fuking life, its nobodys fault. most people fail. How many people ever get where they really want to be? its rare. jesus christ dude, you're almost 40 and dont undertand the way life works.

Low iq post

This is like asking If a guy asks out 100 women and gets rejected every time it's his fault

Not taking the bait dude

Businesses fail for all types of reasons, each circumstance is different. I know its not simply because people dont try hard enough. Even the most successful entrepreneurs usually have more failures than successes.

Because I like arguing with idiots, with apparently

If you put yourself out there, thats all you can do. You cant control how the woman ultimately feels.

Lol you’re in it with them now and it’s entertaining. Their belief system is so rooted that challenging makes their heads explode. Like “how can you not see the FACTS?”

the misc needs training in critical thinking and basic logic

Yea, fuk me for being grounded in facts, logic, data, and reality amirite.

blind positive delusion instead.

I read a book on this stuff, its called "brightsided". Basically about how American culture has brainwashed people to think exactly as you guys thinking, rather than see the world the way it actually is. highly recommend.

i get what you're saying. but how can you not see that you may have been rejected because of the things you did

and if you did things differently you may have not been rejected.

i think thats the point and the only point that is being made

lack of belief in self is the ultimate poosy repellent, and women are testing you on it. srs.

thats why you need to make an accurate assessment of yourself. it could be that you did something wrong. it could be that you did everything fine and it just didnt work out for whatever reason.


live. in. reality.

A person who doesn't even go to the casino isn't even in the game. A person who goes to the casino, by the sheer act of placing themselves in that position, is ENABLING luck to enter the picture. No one is suggesting that thinking happy thoughts increases your luck LMAO.There is no way in hell that anyone who is aloof about whatever task they are doing task is putting in as much effort as someone who is cultivating a positive mindset about that same task. You might be able to "do your best", but people who succeed are doing MORE than their best.Wrong. Opportunism first and foremost means being able to actually recognize the opportunity when it actually comes. That requires having visualized success beforehand and therefore preparing yourself for that moment. Most people miss opportunities all the time, or they literally don't even see opportunities until hindsight hits them and it's too late. The people you see who seemingly always benefit from opportunism create those opportunities for themselves.

Lol knew it. Delusional was what I’m getting. I haven’t even been mean at all; just tired of this same topic over and over. And you said it, the echo chamber...it’s all they’re interested in.

Brb finding a book that someone wrote that confirms my bias.

I wonder if I’m successful at my job because I’m intentional about my attitude and how approach it...nah...it’s all luck. Good thing I live in reality.

Your concept of reality is a little flawed as well, because for you it seems to simply mean the current status quo.

I'll give you an example that shows that mindset matters. I was never very good at math, it was my weakness throughout my academic life. However, it was necessary given the nature of my field. I could never become a theoretical physicist or engineer, but through countless hours of reading and listening to lectures on my own time, I got to the point where I achieved enough mastery over the subject that I've now published peer-reviewed articles that utilize econometric modelling and equations. Had I simply said it's all genetics, it never would have happened. No doubt my ability to devote that time to learning the material is partially based on a privilege that I had no control over, but the point I'm making is that within certain bounds change and improvement is possible, and those changes can have large outcomes.

I understand that you feel it's impossible for you to succeed at dating because you're 5'3 and have an average face. You can't change that, but you could make other improvements that would give you a modicum of success.

I think we actually agree more than it seems.

I am a 100% cold hard realist. I dont believe in ANY wishful thinking whatsoever. if its not supported by hard facts and data, its nonsense to me.

by the same token, absolutely I agree that people should make the most of things and do the best they can. I just dont want people thinking that walking around with completley irrational positive attitudes somehow will defy the reality of their life situation because it wont.

anyone who believes it does should use that to solve world hunger and poverty