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post 1586125231 08-17-2019, 12:46 PM
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the class warfare goes on.

truths:

-no one should be expected to pay more than the tag price of a restaurant meal
-waiters shouldn't have to rely on how charitable customers are feeling any given day
-"tipping incentives better service" is complete horse**** meant to shift the responsibility of customer service entirely to waiters, while managers/owners inexplicably are absolved from doing a crucial job in the industry due to societal norms
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post 1586125831 08-17-2019, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By optimus1
It is like a cab driver, etc. Any legit service job involves tipping. If you take an uber, you tip. If you go out to a restaurant, you tip. If you don't like tipping, don't go out to eat u cheap fuks.
lol lol'ed when uber and lyft started adding tips to the app

nope, sorry
post 1586127761 08-17-2019, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted By optimus1
The reality is that the tip is part of the meal price nowadays. If you cannot afford to/don't want to tip at least 17% then you shouldn't be going out to eat. The servers are paid like **** and unless they seriously fuk up the order, they get a 17%+ tip.
what skills does a server have to justify greater pay?
post 1586128321 08-17-2019, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted By optimus1
It is like a cab driver, etc. Any legit service job involves tipping. If you take an uber, you tip. If you go out to a restaurant, you tip. If you don't like tipping, don't go out to eat u cheap fuks.
this is the number 1 excuse given by institutionalized panhandlers aka waiters..'if you don't like tipping, don't go out'...

that's not for the lowest levels employees to decide. that is for the owner to decide. I'd like to see the owner of the business tell me that I shouldn't return if I don't like tipping. he of course would never do that as he realizes that without customers he'd be out of business. but these parasite panhandlers with no skin in the game have no issue spouting that garbage
post 1586129411 08-17-2019, 02:08 PM
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I hope that he gets sued for posting that.
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post 1586129571 08-17-2019, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
If I get fukked up service or the server is dumb i make sure to leave a 1 dollar tip.

Tipping is for good service.


Also restuarants should not be able to take a portion of tips for profit, which they do try in my area. Even know of a bar that unionized over it. The owners were pissed.

I understand if a portion goes to the cooks though.
This. Ive worked in 2 restaurants. In both the owners would steal part of the tips.
post 1586129721 08-17-2019, 02:15 PM
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He would have my vote if I lived there. A real man of the people. Jail for non-tippers 2020
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post 1586140071 08-17-2019, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted By NextPound
Nope. Would rather support raw capitalism rather than have the food establishment raise all the prices due to having to pay the servers a higher wage and get communist level of service because there is zero incentive to perform service at superior level. Have you been out to the average restaurant in Europe? It’s awful.

What you guys don’t seem to understand is the overall cost is still the same, but in a tipping system, the customer has way more control. Would much rather have the market price out the product than forcing some communist system onto it.
Of course i've been to a restaurant in Europe, have you?

If anything there is more incentive, they get paid more and they still get tipped if the service is excellent. It isn't like we just don't tip we probably tip 80% of the time, it's just nobody will have a panic attack if you don't like they seem to in USA.
post 1586143361 08-17-2019, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted By TappingTheZen
Of course i've been to a restaurant in Europe, have you?

If anything there is more incentive, they get paid more and they still get tipped if the service is excellent. It isn't like we just don't tip we probably tip 80% of the time, it's just nobody will have a panic attack if you don't like they seem to in USA.
no one tips in europe unless they're braindead americans or have been influenced by braindead americans.
there is no tipping culture so there is no expectation of a tip.
post 1586143411 08-17-2019, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422
Agree. The tip should be about the quality of the service, not the quality of the food. If the food is bad then send it back or ask to speak with the manager. Bad food doesn't get fixed by stiffing the waiter.



Pretty much my usual method.



And also understandable. I will still tip a couple of bucks even if my bill is under $10.

Senator shouldn't have outed the person by name.

The people I give the best tips to aren't servers though.

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post 1586144111 08-17-2019, 06:09 PM
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I've never once heard a server talk aboutwhat exactly they do to earn the tip other than "servers don't get paid much so therefore you need to throw me some money cuz."
post 1586144981 08-17-2019, 06:28 PM
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i can't believe i'm going to say this on page 4 of a tipping thread.

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post 1586145881 08-17-2019, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Burgerbuger
Tipping isn't a requirement. Maybe the customer is an *******, maybe he/she wasn't.

That person should sue the Senator for slander.
Waste of money to spend on a lawyer.
What he should do is...
A. Tell us all what Ashley the waitress did to piss him off.
B. Publicly call out the senator for cheating on his wife with Ashley the waitress.
C. Make a misc account for reps.
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post 1586145981 08-17-2019, 06:47 PM
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hope he sues the senator lol
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post 1586147671 08-17-2019, 07:31 PM
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tipping is retarded. i worked min wage jobs before and serving. serving was literally the easiest thing i've done in working life.

but servers think they should have the take home income of someone making 6 figs

i know servers making 6 figures working 5 hour nights 7x a week at an upscale steakhouse. and the thing is, they don't even declare their tips so their take home pay might be closer to someone who makes 130k or 140k.

there's no reason a minimum skill no intelligence job should require so much. just get rid of waiters and replace them with a conveyer belt or some ****
post 1586148181 08-17-2019, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted By optimus1
The service industry is based on tips. Whether or not you believe that is a good thing is up to you. But not tipping only hurts the individual that is making poverty wages, it will not affect the restaurant and certainly won't change the service industry. Like I said, if you don't want to tip, don't go out to eat, or order takeout. But sitting down at a table with a waiter and then not tipping or doing a chit tier tip is just being cheap and is directly hurting another person's income for that day.
waiters aren't making "poverty wages" unless they work in the boonies and get 1 customer/hour
post 1586150791 08-17-2019, 08:29 PM
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<----Worked in a high end restaurant for 10 years (server, bartender, bus boy, line cook, dish, Part time manager, full time manager).

T.I.P. meansTo Insure Promptness.It is also totally optional. That being said, the vast majority of servers depend on the kindness of strangers for their income because the IRS wants you to claim 100% of your tips but you only legally have to claim like 8% (or all non-cash tips that are traceable). The more you tip in non-cash, the more the server MUST claim at the end of each shift and that means the more money comes out of each pay check. Often times, each pay check is good for MAYBE a half tank of gas and if you made a lot of tips in the prior 2 weeks, then your check will be void.

It's up to the establishment to pay the server more but if you ask me, that isnt much incentive to give excellent service. Plus, if you pay them more + tips, then you end up with the same service you get at waffle house or applebees. I'm sure there are plenty of stores that pay there servers much more AND they still give great service, but that is DEFINITELY not the rule. it is the exception.

Lastly, that senator is an absolute virtue signalling dick for that move. I hope he gets in serious trouble for it. But that guy who left the chitty tip is also a dick (assuming that the server did a good job though. If the server was terrible then that is his/her problem)
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This incident is now being classed as bullying

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