Him being super drunk isnt "over thinking". He possibly had a drinking problem and from what I under he quit. Last time I spoke with him I think he adjusted his standards as well.

literally the exact same for me. Get curved left and ****ing right. Let me go to Asia, Europe or the Middle East. ALL OF A SUDDEN women are fun and dropping panties.










EDIT: OP save up your dollars. We need to do a trip. Like Im not even bs'ing. Hit them foreign lands, and pregame with Tinder and Bumble 2-3 weeks before.

QFT about the teaching part - eventually there will be a time when it's just going to be you and the girl 1 on 1... make your move or bust.

Also, interesting point about the girl finding you - why do you day that/think that ii?

For the amount of girls I've recently got, my success ratio to attempt ratio is high, because I rarely approach, but when I do it's generally success. This means I should just make more opportunities for myself but I dont because I'm a bish. I could probably have a rotation going right now if I put in the extra effort and approached more.

Also, one of my best friends will literally go girl to girl at bar and clubs, trying to take their hand and dance/get a convo going. Some will reject, and when they do he will go to the girls friend or the next girl over in eyes reach from.the orgingial girl and do the same exact thing. Eventually one girl always gives in to dance or talk. He just proving the point that you have to take chances and approach because one will eventually give. Not many people have the the balls to do what he does, especially at that pace/level.

@Zackad etc. So you mean to tell me that as a man who barely has sex once a year, with a subpar woman, I should go out to the club and pretend that I'm not looking to get laid? Bro...I'm not the only guy out there approaching women trying to get numbers.

I've always found this advice to be contradictory. If women have such a strong sixth sense for smelling desperation then they'll know the truth anyways right? So why even bother doing the idgaf routine. Honestly this advice just makes me feel even worse lol Id rather be true to my desires and work on the problem instead of acting like I don't care. So thanks to the 5 people who legitimately posted tactics to help.

I'll admit some nights I overdo but typically when I go out with 2 or more bros I dont even approach cause I'm just fuking around doing our crazy antics. I've only been approached once in over 7 years of doing that.

Crazy that me and otaku are the only guys who go out hoping to get laid, there's gotta be something wrong with us...

Another thing re looks, I mean this section can't be that oblivious. I've been over my bros house when a girl comes over. He literally just sat down and acted awkward the whole time. Even I was doing a better job of making her feel comfortable. Next morning he's lol'ing about how he clapped her cheeks. Don't see why you guys can't acknowledge that nothing matter if you look good enough.

Well, both of you guys have literally been complaining about this same subject here for over a decade and counting. Probably 20 years total between the two of you (I'm not looking at his join date at the moment). I'm willing to bet that in a calendar year I probably walk up to and talk to less women than you guys do, yet I probably get rejected more than you guys do. On paper my rejection rate could be in the toilet compared to both of yours. But you want to know what the difference is? I really do not give a f u c k. Neither of you guys are virgins. You've boned someone before; most likely someone attractive, so I doubt there's anything really stopping that from logically happening again in the future. That being said, you guys constantly stress this. And when you say things like, "I'm volunteering here so I can find someone to sleep with," it is obviously a statement reeking of desperation, and your actions are going to show this. If that is truly one of the main reasons you felt compelled to volunteer your time to help others, you're trash. Volunteer to build up your CV. Volunteer because you genuinely have a spirit of service and you want to help others. Stop volunteering because you want an easy method of getting pussy, because I guarantee you that's a way to label yourself as a creep and a scumbag more than anything else. It's like the guys who hit on women constantly in the gym, but never train. The guys hitting on women in the library, but never studying. The guys in the coffee shop hitting on women, but never getting any damn coffee or food. Go do something or go somewhere primarily for its intended purpose. I'm not saying don't strike when the iron's hot, but hot damn, this dude is literally saying he is volunteering for a way to get laid.How fucking pathetic is that?

That is why these threads are always circular and always contain the same advice you want to call redundant, smug, etc. There is no damned secret to getting women. All you literally can do is be yourself and cast the die. Beyond that, there are no special techniques, no special tactics, no silly "game" or methods, no amount of "coaching" that can help you. Everything you need to get women was granted to you at birth. But you guys choose to dilute your minds with so much bullcrap that you eventually became blind to it. You think we're "good with women" just because we look a certain way, do a certain activity, have a certain career, etc., when in reality that's not the case at all.

I mean, really. Ask yourselves why you want to tag legions of women so badly. What is the true appeal behind that? I don't think I've slept with even half of what this other clown claimed he got off of Tinder just based on the women I've made genuine connections with in person. Why would you want that much of a headache, that much time acting like a jester, and that much time onutter shitthat is ultimately not that important just to say you have boned a lot of women? You guys have both individually made over ten thousand posts here; far more than I've made, and they're most likely just posts going on and on about this same crap. Have either of you guys once stopped to think that, "hey, maybe they keep on repeating themselves because this is literally all it takes?" We can't live your lives for you, dudes. Sometimes to get what you want is going to require you do some deep introspection into yourself and determine and figure out what you really want, and why you really want it. Spend some time away from this forum doing that and maybe, just maybe, you'll find whatever answer it is you're looking for.

op if you find out let me know

I don’t know how you manage to be so indifferent to women and I wish I was the same. Good on you for that. However, most guys put some type of value on women. Some are desperate about it, some are good at hiding it or game, and some are just good looking enough that its not an issue. Either way I think it would be strange for me to not worry about my terrible luck in this area. I post once every other month these days and spend most of my time away from the misc. I do go out to have a good time more often than not. However in the midst of my self improvement and introspection its like damn “when/how can I figure this part out?”. This thread was asking for actionable steps towards how to improve my results with women. As otaku vocaroo’d I just want the same peace of mind with women as I get when I get under the bar to do a warmup set.

Congrats on the 32 days and good luck on your NoNutNovember goals. This thread is about women so I posted my NoFap regimen as it applies to women. Personally I'm just doing it for discipline and inner peace. I definitely have much bigger goals than busting a nut but its hard not to worry with such dismal results.

Bold # 1 : This is to the go to strategy of most "advice" giving miscers. Twist your post, add in stuff you never even said, strawman it to hell, and then boom

Bold # 2: This. It blows my mind how miscers thinking a 30 year old man going "man why dont women like" is somehow being obsessed or focused on the wrong things. Unless you have test levels of a 80 year old woman you are going to want to talk to women or hang out with them. wtf.

I don't pull a lot of women, probably because I'm not out there in the world all the time and im not on apps. I go out once a week. When I do pull I am never expecting an outcome with them in any way. I'm just trying to have a good time in the moment and not be motivated by the puccy. This allows me to be myself and not be desperate. They're grown adults so I don't white knight them, they can take care of themselves. I treat them like I mostly treat my guy friends. If they call you out for it that's a chit test. Most of the girls I've slept with will say things like "you're an a-hole" or whatever and it don't mean chit, they're giving you a compliment. So be you and don't change for her, don't be sorry, just give off that vibe that if she doesn't like you it doesn't affect you at all. You're comfortable with yourself and there will always be more opportunities.

why dont u fuk him

Yeah brah I've hit it off pretty well with the foreign exchange students.

Id donit...It would be interesting to see the difference that miscers have been talking about.

Otaku, i see you confirmed that it's your location that is dragging you down dating wise, not you specifically. I know it's been stated before in other threads, but have you moved/considered moving to a different area?

RE: the girl finding you thing, that's more so geared towards getting a girl who you would actually date, not smash. I say that because, of all the times I've known a girl I wanted to date, and I was the one who started pursuing, it never panned out. However, when I went after the girls who already made it clear they were interested, and I was interested as well, the whole process of dating, hooking up, and hanging out with them was immensely easier than trying to win over a girl who wasn't about me or on the fence.

That being said, even in terms of hooking up, i pay attention to the girls who are paying attention to me that i'd be into, rather than just picking a random out of the crowd. much easier for those ones to work out.

As far as what your buddy does, that is a def a good way to prove it's all about numbers. But most guys don't have the balls/ego to be able to handle rejection after rejection like that without getting bummed/frustrated/angry, and I wouldn't recommend everyone do it except as a way to get used to rejection lol. Could also very easily earn you a poor reputation if you're doing it regularly at the same establishments, and that won't help your chances for hooking up at all.




Might be a bit confusing but I'll try to clarify. It's about the mindset. It's not that you should go out NOT trying to get laid, but it shouldn't be your first and foremost goal for the night. The sixth sense I talk about is women sniffing out your in the moment desperation, not your general dating status.Of course, should they find out you are failing terribly in that department before you can build a connection it certainly won't help. This is why I and many other miscers recommend having a large social circle that includes females, because they can set you up, or get you past any initial hesitations a stranger might have about you.

You say some nights you go out with your bros and don't approach because you're doing your crazy antics, which is good. That being said, watch what crazy antics you do. Me and my buds do this all the time, and there have been plenty of times we scare off otherwise interested girls because they think we are just too much lol. Like I've said, every girl is different and will respond differently.

I can say for myself and my friends...none of us ever go out with the specific intention of picking up a girl to smash. it's more of a "lets go have fun and see where the night takes us" mindset. And no one is discounting the fact that looks matter. I've stated it many times ITT. But it's not the only thing that matters, by far.

But idk why i'm even responding since i'm not offering legitimate advice in your opinion.

Otaku, i see you confirmed that it's your location that is dragging you down dating wise, not you specifically. I know it's been stated before in other threads, but have you moved/considered moving to a different area?

EDIT: I see OP confirms doing well with foreign exchange students too...so the same question goes for you. Have you tried moving to a new location?

You know how many times I've told this dude that? Lmfao

Maybe it is because I know most men and women, once you cut past the facades and BS acts most people put forward, aren't worth the muck and trash they poison the planet with.When you truly commit yourself to a purpose, work towards intrinsic motivations and finally find true inner peace within yourself, you will be surprised at what trash you won't tolerate from women or from friends/other individuals. I don't tolerate disrespect from women, and I've talked to plenty of gorgeous ones in my time. If I get hit with disrespect, flakiness, game playing or other such nonsense that you guys routinely complain about, I count my blessings. Instead of worrying about putting forward more energy into an unsuitable woman, that's more energy I can put into myself or into the right woman in the future. Instead of worrying about being rejected by an unsuitable woman, I rejoice and think of the positives of not having to worry about someone screwing me over in the future and making my life a living hell because of it. Think of the money you will save. Look at the positives. Sometimes, when women reject you, push you aside, ignore your texts or do some other kind of disrespectfulshit...they are doing you a favor.

THIS

Ive gotten to the point where if a woman shows the slightest bit of attitude or warning signs of her being a future headache, I will go full NC on them.
The worst part about this is that women in todays society expect men to take a slap across the face and come begging for more. They expect you to grovel, be a yes man, be their personal entertainment all for a chance to get some poosy.
Its gotten to the point where people will think something is wrong with you for having standards has happened to me many times.
There is way too much to be done to be playing little BS games with these sub par basic women, or to hang with basic dudes and play xbox all day.

Yeah life's too short to be chasing a woman who ain't interested in you and it makes you look bad especially if you got a beta male giving you chit advice like "You should keep trying brah".

EDIT : How is op making sex and dating "complicated" ? Lmao it outright isnt happening for him. He cant complicate what doesnt happen. What what "self improvements" should OP pursue ? He's a well off college grad, lifter, and goes out of his way to be social.

I believe FlChamp hung out with him once and said he was normal if i recall correctly.

Every post i see of yours is related tonot getting laid. Brah you're aesthetic, you can surely pull 6's easy even with little to no social skills.

He totally can't get laid. 26 years old with 30 notches.... did I mention it was 30 in the last 3 years?