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I'm not redpilled at all, but it's amazing how the women are taking no responsibility in this. Yes, the GDP guys were deceitful and sleazy ( no chit, they are in porn), but you have to be a moron to put yourself in that kind of situation in the first place. Yes the company was sleazy, but the women chose to put themselves in the situation. Nobody forced them to get fuked on camera.
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If anyone's seen that netflix documentary "hot girls wanted" you'll know the slooty mindset of these young porno girls, they want fame and easy money, the girls they followed on the documentary made like 50k in a few months but blew most of it on random material possessions.

LOL @ the GDP girls who when asked why they were there said some BS excuse like "I want to try something different" "I want to pay my college fees" In their heads it was more like "im a sloot who wants an easy $5k so i can buy clothes and other chit.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
I'm not redpilled at all, but it's amazing how the women are taking no responsibility in this. Yes, the GDP guys were deceitful and sleazy ( no chit, they are in porn), but you have to be a moron to put yourself in that kind of situation in the first place. Yes the company was sleazy, but the women chose to put themselves in the situation. Nobody forced them to get fuked on camera.
they made a pact with the devil and got burned i have 0 sympathy for those hoes

bet if the videos were not posted online they would have had 0 issues

now that chit is online they know that no chad will date them
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
I'm not redpilled at all, but it's amazing how the women are taking no responsibility in this. Yes, the GDP guys were deceitful and sleazy ( no chit, they are in porn), but you have to be a moron to put yourself in that kind of situation in the first place. Yes the company was sleazy, but the women chose to put themselves in the situation. Nobody forced them to get fuked on camera.
Hilariously, page 140-142 of the judge's ruling explicitly addresses the controlling case law about morons, and points to the evidence presented that GDP intentionally targeted morons.

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-co...rn-VERDICT.pdf

The bottom line in cases like this is that even if your contract is, itself, lawful, it doesn't follow that the marketing practices you used to find people to sign it were lawful, too,
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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Originally Posted By RazorM3
they made a pact with the devil and got burned i have 0 sympathy for those hoes

bet if the videos were not posted online they would have had 0 issues

now that chit is online they know that no chad will date them
Exactly, they aren't sorry they did it, they are sorry they got busted. At least have the balls to be like " Yeah I took 5K to get railed, no fuks given"
Originally Posted By ANumber1
Hilariously, page 140-142 of the judge's ruling explicitly addresses the controlling case law about morons, and points to the evidence presented that GDP intentionally targeted morons.

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-co...rn-VERDICT.pdf

lol u wot? Wow......

The bottom line in cases like this is that even if your contract is, itself, lawful, it doesn't follow that the marketing practices you used to find people to sign it were lawful, too.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
lol u wot? Wow......
Basically, if you know someone is exceptionally gullible and mislead them anyway, you're on the hook. Seems to me this came down to the findings of fact, that the judge could have thrown out a lot of the claims made by the plaintiffs and still made a sound ruling in GDP's favor, but GDP threw away all their credibility as more and more stupid antics came out.

Rule 1: don't piss off the judge.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1
Basically, if you know someone is exceptionally gullible and mislead them anyway, you're on the hook. Seems to me this came down to the findings of fact, that the judge could have thrown out a lot of the claims made by the plaintiffs and still made a sound ruling in GDP's favor, but GDP threw away all their credibility as more and more stupid antics came out.

Rule 1: don't piss off the judge.
Unreal. Talk about lack of personal accountability. Now sure how dumb you have to be in order to realize banging a stranger on camera isn't a good idea.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1
Hilariously, page 140-142 of the judge's ruling explicitly addresses the controlling case law about morons, and points to the evidence presented that GDP intentionally targeted morons.

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-co...rn-VERDICT.pdf

The bottom line in cases like this is that even if your contract is, itself, lawful, it doesn't follow that the marketing practices you used to find people to sign it were lawful, too,
Good find lol.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
Unreal. Talk about lack of personal accountability. Now sure how dumb you have to be in order to realize banging a stranger on camera isn't a good idea.
Yes, but on the other hand, it's a legal industry and the rules still apply. Plausible misunderstandings are different from intentional deception.

If a party has fraudulently misrepresented a document's contents or
induced the other party to refrain from reading the document, courts
will allow a remedy, choosing not to permit a positively fraudulent
party to prosper because of the stupidity or credulity of the defrauded
party, subject only to the rights of innocent third parties. In short, the
law should not give any assistance to a knave, a scoundrel or a con
artist who preys upon the less alert or more naive members of society.


The evidence that they knew they were seeking out morons who could be easily misled made it worse because it established their intent.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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read page 54.

Jane Doe 5.


she was 17 at time when they started grooming her.

they flew her in on her birthday to shoot video.

asked her to send nude pictures when she was 17 at time.


child pornography charges coming next...



these guys are one of the biggest scumbags


that is why that Pratt guy is on the run in New Zealand.


money laundering charges ie

they pissed off the tax man.


they are all going down hard.

and they deserve it.

..........

also they started that detoxing porn wikileaks site.

so they can threaten them

if they say anything they will release their info
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Originally Posted By ANumber1
Yes, but on the other hand, it's a legal industry and the rules still apply. Plausible misunderstandings are different from intentional deception.

If a party has fraudulently misrepresented a document's contents or
induced the other party to refrain from reading the document, courts
will allow a remedy, choosing not to permit a positively fraudulent
party to prosper because of the stupidity or credulity of the defrauded
party, subject only to the rights of innocent third parties. In short, the
law should not give any assistance to a knave, a scoundrel or a con
artist who preys upon the less alert or more naive members of society.


The evidence that they knew they were seeking out morons who could be easily misled made it worse because it established their intent.
This is the biggest pile of crap I've ever seen. ............what a time to be alive.
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Originally Posted By RocknRollMuscle
they won't see a penny.

gdp can just declare bankruptcy and reform as a new company. It's not some brick and mortar company. That $13M will be settled by desperate lawyers for like $2M where they get $1.8M of it.

" Plaintiffs also allege fraudulent transfer as Defendants are believed to have transferred the videos and their funds overseas to hide assets."

though the child porn chages are much more an issue for the owners who are in prison. Unless judge ordered bank accounts seized - that money is probably offshore. In fact theyu're idiots if they keep their porn money in us bank accounts. That's like 101 stuff man.
Child porn sounds way worse than it actually is, it was a 16 year old sloot, r kelly pissed on a 16 year old and he came out fine. Sure having sex with a 16 year old is illegal in most states not all , but calling her a child makes it sound way worse than it actual is.
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre
read page 54.

Jane Doe 5.


she was 17 at time when they started grooming her.

they flew her in on her birthday to shoot video.

asked her to send nude pictures when she was 17 at time.


child pornography charges coming next...



these guys are one of the biggest scumbags


that is why that Pratt guy is on the run in New Zealand.


money laundering charges ie

they pissed off the tax man.


they are all going down hard.

and they deserve it.

..........

also they started that detoxing porn wikileaks site.

so they can threaten them

if they say anything they will release their info
Poor baby she was 17 when she sent out nudes, practically a child, how dare them.
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Originally Posted By Fred87nc
Child porn sounds way worse than it actually is, it was a 16 year old sloot, r kelly pissed on a 16 year old and he came out fine. Sure having sex with a 16 year old is illegal in most states not all , but calling her a child makes it sound way worse than it actual is.
Over here 16 is the legal age of consent. Until some point in the last 20 years or so it was common for 16 year old women to pose topless for Page 3 in our tabloid papers, until the government raised the age to 18.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
This is the biggest pile of crap I've ever seen. ............what a time to be alive.
I mean, he's quoting "Williston on Contracts", a guide to contract law from the 1920s. There's nothing new here.

If you don't want to get caught deceiving the stupid for profit, it's as simple as not doing it.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1
I mean, he's quoting "Williston on Contracts", a guide to contract law from the 1920s. There's nothing new here.

If you don't want to get caught deceiving the stupid for profit, it's as simple as not doing it.
I just think its a load of chit( I understand it's a real legal thing). Preying on someone with a mental disability or something is different, but this is not that. These are just dumb girls who wanted a quick dollar. Like I said, ANYONE with even 1/4 of a functioning brain would realize banging a guy on camera for money is a terrible idea. This country is a mess due to the lack of personal accountability with these kinds of things.
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Originally Posted By LooksMaximus
Was looking for more info on this and came across an in-depth article on xbiz.com that talks about the misc.

Actually pretty accurate JFL



https://www.xbiz.com/news/247515/her...rlsdoporn-case
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the men who make porn are trash. the women they pay to be in the porns, are trash. end thread.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
I just think its a load of chit( I understand it's a real legal thing). Preying on someone with a mental disability or something is different, but this is not that. These are just dumb girls who wanted a quick dollar. Like I said, ANYONE with even 1/4 of a functioning brain would realize banging a guy on camera for money is a terrible idea. This country is a mess due to the lack of personal accountability with these kinds of things.
Except that personal accountability goes both ways. Had they not left a massive trail of evidence proving that they were doing this on purpose, it would be different.

The world is full of scam artists who are able to throw up their hands and claim they didn't know what was happening, and the courts can't do anything about it. When it's this brazen? You done goofed.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1
Except that personal accountability goes both ways. Had they not left a massive trail of evidence proving that they were doing this on purpose, it would be different.

The world is full of scam artists who are able to throw up their hands and claim they didn't know what was happening, and the courts can't do anything about it. When it's this brazen? You done goofed.
I don't disagree with you. Scams are all over. Pyramid Scams, IRS scams.....some are hard to pick out. I'm sorry, but I have zero empathy for these girls. They knew what they were signing up for.... pornography. Whether it was being distributed overseas (which is a dumb argument, because the internet exists), or stateside is irreverent. You're still getting paid to have sex on camera. This wasn't a scam, was it dishonest and shady? Absolutely it was, I'm not claiming these guys are innocent, but getting fuked on camera for money = pornography.... no matter what way you spin it.

I am not letting the GDP guys off the hook, but these dumb girls are not innocent either.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1
Yes, but on the other hand, it's a legal industry and the rules still apply. Plausible misunderstandings are different from intentional deception.

If a party has fraudulently misrepresented a document's contents or
induced the other party to refrain from reading the document, courts
will allow a remedy, choosing not to permit a positively fraudulent
party to prosper because of the stupidity or credulity of the defrauded
party, subject only to the rights of innocent third parties. In short, the
law should not give any assistance to a knave, a scoundrel or a con
artist who preys upon the less alert or more naive members of society.


The evidence that they knew they were seeking out morons who could be easily misled made it worse because it established their intent.
Originally Posted By ANumber1
I mean, he's quoting "Williston on Contracts", a guide to contract law from the 1920s. There's nothing new here.

If you don't want to get caught deceiving the stupid for profit, it's as simple as not doing it.
Problem is that in this case apparently the entire female sex legally qualifies as "the stupid". As if they needed even more legal privilege and protection. This sets a very dangerous precedent. Have fun signing any kind of contract with a female and expecting it have any kind of legal binding from now on.

You: I have this contract here that says...

Judge: Females qualify as "less alert and more naive members of society" therefore any contract you sign that happens to benefit you more than them is NULL AND VOID, YOU HEARTLESS CHAUVINIST CAPITALIST KNAVE SWINE SCOUNDREL PIG!
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Originally Posted By ANumber1
Except that personal accountability goes both ways. Had they not left a massive trail of evidence proving that they were doing this on purpose, it would be different.

The world is full of scam artists who are able to throw up their hands and claim they didn't know what was happening, and the courts can't do anything about it. When it's this brazen? You done goofed.
What type of evidence did they leave proving that they did this on purpose? Not doubting you I just don't know all the facts
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Originally Posted By LooksMaximus
Problem is that in this case apparently the entire female sex legally qualifies as "the stupid". As if they needed even more legal privilege and protection. This sets a very dangerous precedent. Have fun signing any kind of contract with a female and expecting it have any kind of legal binding from now on.

You: I have this contract here that says...

Judge: Females qualify as "less alert and more naive members of society" therefore any contract you sign that happens to benefit you more than them is NULL AND VOID, YOU HEARTLESS CHAUVINIST CAPITALIST KNAVE SWINE SCOUNDREL PIG!
Pretty much.

I think both should be punished

I think its stupid though, its basically rewarding stupid decisions. Brb make a porn film
Get paid a lump sum

Get paid even more lump sum when you regret it and want to pretend it never happened and act dumb

My guess is its more like.. A judge sees a somewhat shady, lucrative industry and wants to nail them because they can afford it
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah
the men who make porn are trash. the women they pay to be in the porns, are trash. end thread.
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Originally Posted By LooksMaximus
Judge: Females qualify as "less alert and more naive members of society" therefore any contract you sign that happens to benefit you more than them is NULL AND VOID, YOU HEARTLESS CHAUVINIST CAPITALIST KNAVE SWINE SCOUNDREL PIG!
Except that's the only moving part.

The other is intent. If they didn't have a paper trail a mile long ago of fake references who they paid by PayPal and their own employees confirming the plaintiffs' claims at trial, they'd have been in an excellent position to say "LOL, we thought we did everything right".

There's really no precedent here. They were just singularly dumb scammers who got outed. There is, in fact, such a thing as a professional porn industry where the contracts are enforceable because the gig is on the up-and-up.

It sucks that they got rewarded with a(n uncollectible) multi-million dollar judgment as a prize for being stupid, but the facts are what they are.
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What type of evidence did they leave proving that they did this on purpose? Not doubting you I just don't know all the facts
They recruited with bait-and-switch advertisements promising that it was just clothed modeling, then hired fake references and left a paper trail instructing them to lie about what shooting porn with them would be like. They also went to elaborate lengths to conceal their true identities to make it difficult to determine if they were lying, to determine that they owned GDP, and, later, to determine who to sue.

That, alone, is a criminal offense in New York, although I can't speak to California. Doing business under an unregistered assumed name is such an obvious indicator of intent to defraud that you can potentially be jailed for it all by itself.

They apparently brought people out promising larger amounts of money than they were willing to offer once they arrived in California, and purportedly became threatening if girls tried to back out. Obviously, they also lied about how the films would be distributed, although I think that's the least important aspect and the dumbest part. Interestingly, however, they were careful not to leave a paper trail about that part: whenever girls asked where the films would be distributed by email, they were asked to talk about it on the phone.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1
Except that's the only moving part.

The other is intent.If they didn't have a paper trail a mile long ago of fake references who they paid by PayPal and their own employees confirming the plaintiffs' claims at trial, they'd have been in an excellent position to say "LOL, we thought we did everything right".

There's really no precedent here. They were just singularly dumb scammers who got outed. There is, in fact, such a thing as a professional porn industry where the contracts are enforceable because the gig is on the up-and-up.

It sucks that they got rewarded with a(n uncollectible) multi-million dollar judgment as a prize for being stupid, but the facts are what they are.
Who's to say that next time you'll also need to "have a paper trail a mile long" to prove intent? That's for the judge to decide. And this time the judge seems to have set a very unsettling precedent by declaring that all women -- and in particular prime women 18-24 -- qualify as "less alert and more naive members of society". This is like +50 to the super privilege powers of the modern female NPC.
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Who's to say that next time you'll also need to "have a paper trail a mile long" to prove intent? That's for the judge to decide.
No, it isn't. You have to have proof of each element of fraud to prove fraud. Proving the defendant's knowledge and intent are both separate elements of common law fraud.

As for their intelligence, we can't have it both ways. The dumbfukkitude of the plaintiffs was explored by the judge because it's obvious that this scheme required singularly stupid victims.

All GDP had to do here was do business the right way and they'd have still found some dumbfukks, but they took the easy way out and lost. Stupid games, stupid prizes.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1
They recruited with bait-and-switch advertisements promising that it was just clothed modeling, then hired fake references and left a paper trail instructing them to lie about what shooting porn with them would be like. They also went to elaborate lengths to conceal their true identities to make it difficult to determine if they were lying, to determine that they owned GDP, and, later, to determine who to sue.

That, alone, is a criminal offense in New York, although I can't speak to California. Doing business under an unregistered assumed name is such an obvious indicator of intent to defraud that you can potentially be jailed for it all by itself.

They apparently brought people out promising larger amounts of money than they were willing to offer once they arrived in California, and purportedly became threatening if girls tried to back out. Obviously, they also lied about how the films would be distributed, although I think that's the least important aspect and the dumbest part.Interestingly, however, they were careful not to leave a paper trail about that part: whenever girls asked where the films would be distributed by email, they were asked to talk about it on the phone.
They probably were unfamiliar with contract law, like me, because I thought that the distribution lies were the part that would get them. I knew they were using scummy tactics but the bait and switch is supremely fukd up
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post 1594810291 01-03-2020, 09:27 AM
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post 1594810861 01-03-2020, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted By LooksMaximus
Was looking for more info on this and came across an in-depth article on xbiz.com that talks about the misc.

Actually pretty accurate JFL



https://www.xbiz.com/news/247515/her...rlsdoporn-case
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