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post 1596267921 01-24-2020, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
And so the prevailing theme ITT is that it’s perfect ok to have a 20 member all white board. Definitely nothing racist there. But requiring that a seat or two be held by a minority IS racist. So 20 - 0 = not racist but 18 - 2 = racist.

It’s really no wonder y’all worship Trump. No surprise at all.
Can you explain why this policy only applies to the US and Europe? I'm confused
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Well there are countless investment banks willing to take those companies public anyway, so it will have no material impact. They're the ones making the firm commitment to back the IPOs with their own capital, so they should be able to do whatever they want.
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Originally Posted By Audioslave⏩
Well there are countless investment banks willing to take those companies public anyway, so it will have no material impact. They're the ones making the firm commitment to back the IPOs with their own capital, so they should be able to do whatever they want.
should they? what EVER they want?

are all anti-discrimination laws a form of govt overreach?
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
I've explained to you how it's an ideological misstep at best. Kludging equality of outcome through mandate doesn't aid the struggle of the oppressed. It subverts it.

Do you imagine Goldman Sachs is some bastion of moral progress?
Um, they're trying to sprinkle in some diversity that acknowledges that there are people in this country who should be represented by other than white people.

So yes, they're trying in this regard.

I really don't understand why everyone is so afraid of this. Again 20 - 0 is perfectly fine because they all got appointed ONLY because they were the best and most qualified. Attempt to normalize things toward society even a little and the right lose their minds.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
should they? what EVER they want?

are all anti-discrimination laws a form of govt overreach?
Like the civil rights amendment? How about when blacks couldn't vote or drink out of a white water fountain?

Government overreach?
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Um, they're trying to sprinkle in some diversity that acknowledges that there are people in this country who should be represented by other than white people.

So yes, they're trying in this regard.

I really don't understand why everyone is so afraid of this. Again 20 - 0 is perfectly fine because they all got appointed ONLY because they were the best and most qualified. Attempt to normalize things toward society even a little and the right lose their minds.
They are TRYING? If moral value could be attributed to capitalism (it can't), this corporation would be the embodiment of evil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldma..._controversies

Digressing: It's my opinion that capital outstrips economic reasonings. It is closer to a force of nature. It subsumes all of it's antitheses. "When you buy X, we donate a portion of the proceeds to Y." Goldman Sachs does not "try" things. They crush ass. What kinda fukkin liberal is cheering on Goldman Sachs?
Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Like the civil rights amendment? How about when blacks couldn't vote or drink out of a white water fountain?

Government overreach?
that was the implication of my post. i obviously can't be subtle.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
They are TRYING? If moral value could be attributed to capitalism (it can't), this corporation would be the embodiment of evil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldma..._controversies

Digressing: It's my opinion that capital outstrips economic reasonings. It is closer to a force of nature. It subsumes all of it's antitheses. "When you buy X, we donate a portion of the proceeds to Y." Goldman Sachs does not "try" things. They crush ass. What kinda fukkin liberal is cheering on Goldman Sachs?



that was the implication of my post. i obviously can't be subtle.
Yea, I didn't read your post well enough to catch the subtlety. My bad. And of course I don't like GS, just saying in this case they're trying to do something "good" for society.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
lol. White dominated field? So whites make up 100% of the field? Take the congressional republicans for example, there's like 1 or 2 blacks out of almost 300 positions. Is that because "only the whites are qualified"? If you don't think there's some kind of institutional process at hand favoring white dudes, then your head is in the sand.

How come democrats can find and elect non-whites if only whites are qualified?

Such a bizzaro world of complete incognizant some of you live in.
This is the problem with you people. Instead of looking at plausible, alternative explanations, you jump to racism.

There are differences in career demographics. Period. This isn’t necessarily because of discrimination.

Walk into a chemical engineering class. You’ll notice 80-90% male. Did the University discriminate against women, or are males just more likely to be attracted to the field and (maybe) better at it as well?

Walk into a Pan-African studies class. You’ll notice it’s probably disproportionately black. Why do you think that is?

Perhaps white culture pushes business- orientated jobs harder on their children than minority families? Perhaps males simply have biological aspects that make them better suited for business roles than women.

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so are they going to ask all potential directors a DNA test and what their sexual preference is?
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
who cares?

oh wait triggered cuckservatives
Doesn't surprise me you'd be ok with racial discrimination.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Like the civil rights amendment? How about when blacks couldn't vote or drink out of a white water fountain?

Government overreach?
Christ you are beyond dramatic at times. Maybe you should get your estrogen levels checked.
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So leftists like Goldman Sachs now?
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
And so the prevailing theme ITT is that it’s perfect ok to have a 20 member all white board. Definitely nothing racist there. But requiring that a seat or two be held by a minority IS racist. So 20 - 0 = not racist but 18 - 2 = racist.

It’s really no wonder y’all worship Trump. No surprise at all.
I would personally want only the best on my board, could care less what they look like.
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I understand why they are doing it but it seems very discriminatory for a logical perspective.

Best person for the job should always be the way things are done regardless of ethnicity, gender, sexual preferences.

The potential next step from this is to specify the exact make up of each board of Directors. Yes there should be more diversity in boardrooms but a mandatory quota system is a slippery slope.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I would personally want only the best on my board, could care less what they look like.
this. it should be based on the best qualified, not best colored
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post 1596272261 01-24-2020, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By TonyTriangles⏩
so are they going to ask all potential directors a DNA test and what their sexual preference is?
They will if it will help their bottom line. Any seemingly political motivations are only to that end.
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More and More Public Companies Are Going Private


Private equity firms are taking companies out of the public markets at their fastest pace in a decade.

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The speed at which companies are going private is being driven by a number of factors, including private equity firms needing to put the record amount of capital they’ve raised over the last few years to work. Management teams and founders also increasingly want to avoid the demands put on public companies.
https://www.institutionalinvestor.co...-Going-Private
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Lol @ anyone dense enough to believe a bunch of billionaires who got to where they're at by being more ruthless and cunning than the next guy really give a single iota of a fuk about any of this virtue signaling diversity bullshhit they're spewing.

Just look itt for the real answer. Everyone's fighting each other over this while they continue to write the laws and pillage society for their personal gain.

Just another distraction to divide the population and keep the pitch forks from showing up at their skyscrapers.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
There are varying aptitudes of mental ability among people. Very little among races.
You don't call an IQ difference of 20-25 points a big difference? I do.

How can it be ok for you to say that blacks are better than whites at basketball for example because of the fact they can run faster and jump higher, but if you say that certain groups like Jewish whites are better qualified to run a business because of their mental aptitude....it's racist?

Race IQ
Ashkenazi Jews (studies range from 104 to 115; the IQ of Sephardic Jews is estimated to be the same as Northern Europeans) 110
East Asians (China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore) 105
Europeans (Northern and Western Europe is 100; Eastern and Southeastern Europe is 95) 97
American Indians (North and South America) 90
Hispanic-Americans 89
Southeast Asians (Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, and Borneo) 87
Pacific Islanders (Natives of New Zealand, Micronesia, Melanesia, Polynesia, and Hawaii) 85
African-Americans 85
South Asians (Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, the Gulf states, the Near East, and Turkey) 84
North Africans 84
Sub-Saharan Africans 70
Australian Aborigines 62
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
You don't call an IQ difference of 20-25 points a big difference? I do.

How can it be ok for you to say that blacks are better than whites at basketball for example because of the fact they can run faster and jump higher, but if you say that certain groups like Jewish whites are better qualified to run a business because of their mental aptitude....it's racist?

Race IQ
Ashkenazi Jews (studies range from 104 to 115; the IQ of Sephardic Jews is estimated to be the same as Northern Europeans) 110
East Asians (China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore) 105
Europeans (Northern and Western Europe is 100; Eastern and Southeastern Europe is 95) 97
American Indians (North and South America) 90
Hispanic-Americans 89
Southeast Asians (Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, and Borneo) 87
Pacific Islanders (Natives of New Zealand, Micronesia, Melanesia, Polynesia, and Hawaii) 85
African-Americans 85
South Asians (Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, the Gulf states, the Near East, and Turkey) 84
North Africans 84
Sub-Saharan Africans 70
Australian Aborigines 62
Don’t know what your source is but if true some of those average IQ’s are generally frightening. An average of 85 is absolutely massively different to an average of 100 in terms of mental capacity.
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Originally Posted By WhySoCerberus⏩
Don’t know what your source is but if true some of those average IQ’s are generally frightening. An average of 85 is absolutely massively different to an average of 100 in terms of mental capacity.
http://aristocratsofthesoul.com/aver...and-ethnicity/

Here is another.

https://psychology.wikia.org/wiki/Ra...s_among_races)

From Lynn (in press) Population IQ Majority Population Minority Population Total Population
# Studies # Countries # Studies # Countries # Studies # Countries Sample
East Asian 105 59 5 42 7 101 12 128,322
European 99 93 36 6 6 112 42 175,950
—N America 100
—NC & E Europe 99
—Portugal 97
—SE Europe 92
Arctic 91 15 2 15 2 2,690
Southeast Asian 87 11 6 7 3 13,433
Pacific Islander 29 10 7,729
—Maori 90 15 1
—Non-Maori 85 14 9
Amerindian 86 11 5 21 2 63 7 37,304
West/South Asian 84 37 15 61 9 98 24 65,855
—Near East 89
—India 82
Sub-Saharan Africa 115 28 387,286
—Africa 67 57 18
—Non-Western 71 14 6 2 1
—Western 85 54 3
—Khosian 54 3 1
Australoid 62 24 1 5 1 29 2 4,785
World 90 620 100 813,778
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
http://aristocratsofthesoul.com/aver...and-ethnicity/

Here is another.

https://psychology.wikia.org/wiki/Ra...s_among_races)

From Lynn (in press) Population IQ Majority Population Minority Population Total Population
# Studies # Countries # Studies # Countries # Studies # Countries Sample
East Asian 105 59 5 42 7 101 12 128,322
European 99 93 36 6 6 112 42 175,950
—N America 100
—NC & E Europe 99
—Portugal 97
—SE Europe 92
Arctic 91 15 2 15 2 2,690
Southeast Asian 87 11 6 7 3 13,433
Pacific Islander 29 10 7,729
—Maori 90 15 1
—Non-Maori 85 14 9
Amerindian 86 11 5 21 2 63 7 37,304
West/South Asian 84 37 15 61 9 98 24 65,855
—Near East 89
—India 82
Sub-Saharan Africa 115 28 387,286
—Africa 67 57 18
—Non-Western 71 14 6 2 1
—Western 85 54 3
—Khosian 54 3 1
Australoid 62 24 1 5 1 29 2 4,785
World 90 620 100 813,778
Another of just people in the US.

Whites are 15-20 points higher then the rest.

https://thealternativehypothesis.org...united-states/
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The bottom line is this. I have zero issue with a person of any color being on a BoD as long as they are QUALIFIED.

But don't just do it to do it because you want to gain brownie points with the SJWs.

And that is what so much of this is about. Look at the constant outcry about black coaches in the NFL? A few years ago there were I believe 7 or so. Out of 30. Which is a much higher rate than the 13% black pop of the USA. Now I think it is down to 3 or 4. So yesterday I had to read about how much of an injustice that is on the front page of Yahoo.

Of course, nothing was said about the fact that blacks make up 75% of the players in the NFL. What about all the whites that get overlooked because they are deemed too slow or not athletic enough because of their skin? No one talks about that. And you know why? Because the best players should play. Period. White black purple orange or blue.
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Originally Posted By WhySoCerberus⏩
Don’t know what your source is but if true some of those average IQ’s are generally frightening. An average of 85 is absolutely massively different to an average of 100 in terms of mental capacity.
Reminds me of Forrest Gump. He's not retarded, he's......special.
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Ukraine should adopt this policy. They could do with a few less corrupt white polticians kids on their boards.
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The Left: OMG da whitez be da racists for not having more black/brown Americans on these boards/in these positions!1!!

The Left: Well look, Big Tech says theirs not enough skilled black/brown Americans to do those jobs so they should be able to import millions of foreigners.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
lol. White dominated field? So whites make up 100% of the field? Take the congressional republicans for example, there's like 1 or 2 blacks out of almost 300 positions. Is that because "only the whites are qualified"? If you don't think there's some kind of institutional process at hand favoring white dudes, then your head is in the sand.

How come democrats can find and elect non-whites if only whites are qualified?

Such a bizzaro world of complete incognizant some of you live in.
Who gives a fuk bro, the point is that you cant operate on the premise that an organization is racially discriminating against people of skin color without proof.

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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Who gives a fuk bro, the point is that you cant operate on the premise that an organization is racially discriminating against people of skin color without proof.

Hey, before we give you this IPO, we just need to check the skin color of the board, thanks!

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