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» I’d say people have had enough and this whole quarantine thing is mostly over now.
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post 1602833871 04-18-2020, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains
And this kind of attitude is partially why it has spread so quickly in the US.

Anyways, every country that has opened up too early, including Japan and Singapore (both of which had a very tight grip on the spread in the beginning), are seeing surges now. Still, we're going to have to make the choice between a second wave and the consequences of economic shutdown, which may include rioting. I don't really know which will be less harmful, but either way there's going to be considerable disruption.
There are 2 reasons for quarantine.

1) "flatten the curve". 3-6 weeks.
2) "develop tests, vaccine, treatment". up to 2 years.

We were told 1), but now that we've complied, the media and much of the bureaucracy is acting like we agreed to 2). We didn't. We wouldn't. We've done 1), now we're ready to move to 3).

3) "develop herd immunity". up to 18 months. People at risk, continue rigorous quarantine protocol. Everyone else gets back to work wearing masks with social distancing and other common sense precautions.

It's inevitable that cases will spike again as we enter 3), but the alternative of staying indoors indefinitely while our small businesses and paycheck-to-paycheck households are ruined and China exploits our economic absence is unacceptable.
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Originally Posted By rikugunchusa
We literally have the most cases and deaths with a soft lockdown and people wanna open up

lmao

I want to be able to actually go out again but
all it'd take is for this to mutate into a deadlier strain and all of you are ****ed
We have barely more deaths than Spain with 7x the population No chit we have alot of cases.

NYC is one of the biggest cities in the world, did you forget
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Statistics for Canada:

90% of deaths were people over 60

50% of deaths were people in retirement or nursing homes.

So why are we keeping children and teens home from school?

Logic: NONE.
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Originally Posted By Fuqdatass
Bunch of stupid fuks. We just caught another month here because retards can’t stay in

When it’s forced in a few months people will only have themselves to blame
This is America and we are Americans. The same people who started a war over taxing tea.


How well do you think people will react if they try and force us to stay home.


People are over and done with it. Curve is flattened we gained an extra month to fully prepare hospitals. You can’t run from an enemy forever.
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post 1602834171 04-18-2020, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden
He can answer for himself, but I don’t think he was posting that in order to claim that we should continue to lockdown LOL.

My own observations haven’t been all that dissimilar.

For my part, I can say that I am smarter and stronger (physically speaking) than I was when this thing started a month ago.
Drew, we are all at different stages in life. You're married, have a house, kids and a home gym. The rest of us are rotting away in our 700 sq ft apartments.

I'm guessing you're close to the age of retirement and could care less about ever going back to work.

I'm 28 and would rather live my life getting back to work and make money so I can acquire what you already have. I don't want to sit around playing video games and miscing all day everyday.

NEWS FLASH: People die everyday!
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains
And this kind of attitude is partially why it has spread so quickly in the US.

Anyways, every country that has opened up too early, including Japan and Singapore (both of which had a very tight grip on the spread in the beginning), are seeing surges now. Still, we're going to have to make the choice between a second wave and the consequences of economic shutdown, which may include rioting. I don't really know which will be less harmful, but either way there's going to be considerable disruption.
It's not only economic damage but civil liberties. There have been people cuffed for violating social distancing.

Not to mention that this becomes the response to any outbreak in the future.
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post 1602834731 04-18-2020, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By iamxclusive
Drew, we are all at different stages in life. You're married, have a house, kids and a home gym. The rest of us are rotting away in our 700 sq ft apartments.

I'm guessing you're close to the age of retirement and could care less about ever going back to work.

I'm 28 and would rather live my life getting back to work and make money so I can acquire what you already have. I don't want to sit around playing video games and miscing all day everyday.

NEWS FLASH: People die everyday!
I’m 39, and I doubt I will ever retire. Serious.

But again, I still think you’re misreading. I want to go back to work Monday if I could. Serious again.

I was just pointing out the few positives. I’m going out of my mind too.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Not to mention that this becomes the response to any outbreak in the future.
This is what scares me.

From now on this will be the norm every flu season.

We should just let nature take it's course. Let the frail and elderly isolate. Sure. But why isolate healthy people and young people?
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Originally Posted By iamxclusive
lmao

might as well just lock yourself up then.

let those who want to live their life and take that chance do it.

not like it will personally affect you.
This.

I don't know of a single panicel that took a leave of absence from their workplace, even though they were preaching like they knew better.
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Originally Posted By -
Statistics for Canada:

90% of deaths were people over 60

50% of deaths were people in retirement or nursing homes.

So why are we keeping children and teens home from school?

Logic: NONE.
children are spreaders
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden
I’m 39, and I doubt I will ever retire. Serious.

But again, I still think you’re misreading. I want to go back to work Monday if I could. Serious again.

I was just pointing out the few positives. I’m going out of my mind too.
the positives were cool for the first week.. then it got old. real fast.
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden
I just took my wife to work at the hospital and there were more people out and about than a normal Friday evening in April last year. Srs.

People everywhere.
Not where I am sitting - it's pathetic!!
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Originally Posted By -
This is what scares me.

From now on this will be the norm every flu season.

We should just let nature take it's course. Let the frail and elderly isolate. Sure. But why isolate healthy people and young people?
Yup this level of control to a virus makes me really uneasy. Coupled with the acceptance of government paychecks and unemployment claims.
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Lets say we want it over today.

Lets say our dear leaders say until december.

Who wins?

If 99% of the world wants to end it today and let the virus ride, think the 1% will give us the go ahead?

We are all imprisoned and cant do a single thing about it. Why? Because 79 year old italians with preexisting conditions died?
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Originally Posted By aleeboy
LOL at anyone who stays in the corner like a naughty little school kid.
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Originally Posted By PatheticPeter
Lets say we want it over today.

Lets say our dear leaders say until december.

Who wins?

If 99% of the world wants to end it today and let the virus ride, think the 1% will give us the go ahead?

We are all imprisoned and cant do a single thing about it. Why? Because 79 year old italians with preexisting conditions died?
Well all this is stupid and sums up ur username great style imho PP m8!!
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Originally Posted By -
Statistics for Canada:

90% of deaths were people over 60

50% of deaths were people in retirement or nursing homes.

So why are we keeping children and teens home from school?

Logic: NONE.
Because they're carriers. Diseases get spread quickly in school because kids are messy, schools are crowded, and classrooms are tightly packed. Parents and teachers get sick because of kids all the time. Some dumbfuk, asymptomatic kid will inevitably give grandma a kiss, and then bye bye grandma.
Originally Posted By MiscInformed
There are 2 reasons for quarantine.

1) "flatten the curve". 3-6 weeks.
2) "develop tests, vaccine, treatment". up to 2 years.

We were told 1), but now that we've complied, the media and much of the bureaucracy is acting like we agreed to 2). We didn't. We wouldn't. We've done 1), now we're ready to move to 3).

3) "develop herd immunity". up to 18 months. People at risk, continue rigorous quarantine protocol.Everyone else gets back to work wearing masks with social distancing and other common sense precautions.

It's inevitable that cases will spike again as we enter 3), but the alternative of staying indoors indefinitely while our small businesses and paycheck-to-paycheck households are ruined and China exploits our economic absence is unacceptable.
This is in part how South Korea got it under control, but a big difference is that they started early. They also tracked people who were infected as well as those who were contacted by the infected. Tracking would never fly in this country, and with good reason.

As for China exploiting our economic weaknesses, I don't think that's something to worry about. Despite their "official" numbers, they were hit just as hard if not harder. They're very dependent on rapid economic growth, and this is the first year in a very long time that their economy is contracting. While the US will be weaker after this, the same will be true of the whole world, so relatively speaking I don't think the balance will be shifted too much. In fact, the dollar has become stronger.

I agree that we'll have to open eventually because the social unrest will get to a boiling point, but we're all flying blind here. We don't really know what the consequences will be.
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Originally Posted By 5x10
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains
Because they're carriers. Diseases get spread quickly in school because kids are messy, schools are crowded, and classrooms are tightly packed. Parents and teachers get sick because of kids all the time. Some dumbfuk, asymptomatic kid will inevitably give grandma a kiss, and then bye bye grandma.
So let the frail, old and vulnerable people isolate. 97% of the world will not have an issue with getting sick from this. So let the 3% isolate themselves.

Sweden is not doing the lockdown or isolation thing and their numbers are better than most of Europe.
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Quarantine is kind of nice tbh srs. On one hand, it kind of sucks that I can't go to the store, but I always bought most of my stuff online anyway (outside of food). I'm also an introvert by nature and now I have an excuse not to attend social gatherings or feel obligated to go hang out with people. #winning
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Originally Posted By -
So let the frail, old and vulnerable people isolate. 97% of the world will not have an issue with getting sick from this. So let the 3% isolate themselves.

Sweden is not doing the lockdown or isolation thing and their numbers are better than most of Europe.
That's because their population density is much lower than most of Europe, basically around the same as a rural US state. It has roughly the population of North Carolina while having a much lower population density (213 vs 64 people per square mile), but Sweden has a much higher infection rate and roughly 8-9 times the number of deaths.
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Originally Posted By -
So let the frail, old and vulnerable people isolate. 97% of the world will not have an issue with getting sick from this. So let the 3% isolate themselves.

Sweden is not doing the lockdown or isolation thing and their numbers are better than most of Europe.
per capita, they are higher than the USA
And 50% of households are 1 person households in Sweden, less chance to spread

You and I are technically obese (per our BMI) and our mortality rate is 2-3x higher what it would normally be
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fk it

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but the peak is in 2 weeks
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
I have had more than enough

However I’m not prepared to risk it against scientific advice in order to be seen as cool or renegade or whatever it is people are being

And as a-man said the virus doesn’t care
If I was the virus I would do anything and everything in my power to enter you....just sayin
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Going to lol hard and all the rustled miscers in 6 months.

Lockdowns will be lifted in summer, you’ll be given a taste of sweet freedom again, and then when the virus comes back lockdowns will once again be implemented. Only it’ll be for a longer period (Oct - April).
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Only it’ll be for a longer period (Oct - April).
Imagine what schools are going to look like if this comes true.
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You can blame all the paniccels when you see all the local business shut down, depression, bankruptcy suicides etc.....
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Originally Posted By havoc00
You can blame all the paniccels when you see all the local business shut down, depression, bankruptcy suicides etc.....
Interesting take.

Not the President who called for it a month ago?

Not the doctors? Not the WHO? Not other world leaders? Not the media showing us pictures of dead patients and mass graves?

Just the people who listened. Hmmm.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
It's not only economic damage but civil liberties. There have been people cuffed for violating social distancing.

Not to mention that this becomes the response to any outbreak in the future.
THIS
the simple principle of locking us down is wrong and our founding fathers are turning in their graves right now

this is the most pathetic event to ever happen in the whole history of humanity if you really think about it

IM surprised Americans haven't stormed the streets harder than this so far with their weapons at hands, hopefully this week we get to see more of these protests
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden
Interesting take.

Not the President who called for it a month ago?

Not the doctors? Not the WHO? Not other world leaders? Not the media showing us pictures of dead patients and mass graves?

Just the people who listened. Hmmm.
They all are responsible too esp that midget phuck DR
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