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post 1608626941 06-24-2020, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted By STLbuilder
I dont Blame bubba and his team. If u put it in context of just banning the confederate flag and hate mail he was getting it make sense to report it just in case. Let the investigation happen and we all move on. It shows that racism will not be tolerated in nascar and from the African Americans i have talked to a hangmangmans noose style knot has a much different meaning in their experience than us white people.
Back in the day everyone was executed by a noose. Not just blacks. Yes some blacks were executed just bc they were black just like some whites were executed with no trial. History is what it is. The noose or should I say a “noose” shaped knot is very practical and is commonly used. Maybe we shouldn’t get offended so easily? Maybe take the time and look into it and we might possibly see its just a noose shaped knot on the garage door.
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imagine if they used all those resources to solve actual crimes, maybe get the city crime rate down?
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Originally Posted By Miked1978
Back in the day everyone was executed by a noose. Not just blacks. Yes some blacks were executed just bc they were black just like some whites were executed with no trial. History is what it is. The noose or should I say a “noose” shaped knot is very practical and is commonly used. Maybe we shouldn’t get offended so easily? Maybe take the time and look into it and we might possibly see its just a noose shaped knot on the garage door.
True people were killed by a noose. But in American history the noose has a different meaning to the white experience and black experience. If you put it in context of banning confederate flag, him getting alot of hate for it i dont see it as getting offended so easily. If you look at it from bubba's perspective i can understand where he is coming from. His crew found it, reported it and had an investigation. Nascar stepped up and did the right thing and treated one of their drivers with respect and looked into it and now we can move on. All the drivers came together and supported one of their fellow colleagues which is great. We all need to try and see things from other people perspective and differing experiences.
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Shocked, Im completely stunned this was yet another hoax. Dudehas tofeel like a clown right now after all that hoopla, only mixed driver in NASCAR and he's still acting an ass over dumb chit that weall knew was not a fuking noose. Idiot was marching and wearing a marxist terrorist group's shirt like a fuking idiot.
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Just LOL. Stupid BS like this didn't even make the news back in 2012. They're really trying to turn everything into a race issue when most people aren't racist at all. LMFAO @ a BLM paint scheme trying to get more black people to watch NASCAR. Hopes of more viewership is the real reason this happened in the first place.
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Originally Posted By STLbuilder
If you look at it from bubba's perspective i can understand where he is coming from.
I can't imagine being so weak minded that you go though every single day of your life thinking you see a Klansman hiding behind every bush - just waiting to jump out and lynch you.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Why didn't he immediately step in and explain the misunderstanding? He just ran full speed with something that was obviously incorrect.... Will there be any repercussions for this level of stupidity?
Is that a joke? Of course not. Jussie's incident was way worse than this and all his charges got dropped and now it's just like it never happened.

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Originally Posted By kcadrenalin
I can't imagine being so weak minded that you go though every single day of your life thinking you see a Klansman hiding behind every bush - just waiting to jump out and lynch you.
This. Normal people see him as a NASCAR driver. Racists see him as the only black NASCAR driver.
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Originally Posted By kcadrenalin
I can't imagine being so weak minded that you go though every single day of your life thinking you see a Klansman hiding behind every bush - just waiting to jump out and lynch you.
I dont recall bubba saying any of that but again i can see based on the history and current affairs of the USA right now where he is coming from.

You can honestly say that you cannot see his perspective on the issue. coming to their garage seeing something like a hangmans noose and after the recent banning on the confederate flag and the backlash from that reporting it just in case.
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Originally Posted By billclintonnn
This. Normal people see him as a NASCAR driver. Racists see him as the only black NASCAR driver.
then why did they ban Confederate flag? Maybe because there is a history there that is not acceptable to Nascar anymore. So is nascar racist for banning it?

i think it is because there have been differing experiences unfortunately in this country based on peoples color, culture etc. i dont think it is such a bad thing that nascar thinks about all of its drivers and fans and make changes as needed.
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Halp guyz! There is a rope hanging down from my attic door! Send the FBI quick!






























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There was a noose hanging from my closet, FBI investigated and informed me it was hubby's tie and no federal charges were filed..
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Originally Posted By STLbuilder
I dont Blame bubba and his team. If u put it in context of just banning the confederate flag and hate mail he was getting it make sense to report it just in case. Let the investigation happen and we all move on. It shows that racism will not be tolerated in nascar and from the African Americans i have talked to a hangmangmans noose style knot has a much different meaning in their experience than us white people.
But they didn’t let the investigation happen. They played the victim the second they “heard about it”. And ran with the story. Pathetic. You can spin it any way you want soy boy
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Originally Posted By STLbuilder
I dont recall bubba saying any of that but again i can see based on the history and current affairs of the USA right now where he is coming from.

You can honestly say that you cannot see his perspective on the issue. coming to their garage seeing something like a hangmans noose and after the recent banning on the confederate flag and the backlash from that reporting it just in case.
You're not really making sense. It's not hard to see where he's coming from and it still is ridiculous. It would have taken all of 1.5 seconds after seeing what looked like a noose to contextualize it and realize it's just a rope to pull a garage door down. This is literally the same thing as walking into a hotel room and thinking the Klan was there because there are white sheets on the bed.

That's what kcadrenalin is getting at - people are literally LOOKING for racist stuff to be offended by. It's a horrible mindset and honestly probably damaging to black America. What kind of message does that set for a black kid, teaching him that every time he turns around there are subtle racist symbols all over being placed by shadowy white bigots all throughout society? They will never succeed in that environment.
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra
You're not really making sense. It's not hard to see where he's coming from and it still is ridiculous. It would have taken all of 1.5 seconds after seeing what looked like a noose to contextualize it and realize it's just a rope to pull a garage door down. This is literally the same thing as walking into a hotel room and thinking the Klan was there because there are white sheets on the bed.

That's what kcadrenalin is getting at - people are literally LOOKING for racist stuff to be offended by. It's a horrible mindset and honestly probably damaging to black America. What kind of message does that set for a black kid, teaching him that every time he turns around there are subtle racist symbols all over being placed by shadowy white bigots all throughout society? They will never succeed in that environment.
Probab;y? lmao this chit has destroyed black americans minds for generations. The Democrat Party and their Leftists areevil, its very well documented ging back centuries.
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Originally Posted By Droopdx
But they didn’t let the investigation happen. They played the victim the second they “heard about it”. And ran with the story. Pathetic. You can spin it any way you want soy boy
A garage door pull shouldn't necessitate a fukin FBI investigation ffs....

I refuse to believe the world is this stupid...
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Oh Bubba doubled down on CNN last night. He is still playing the victim card.
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Originally Posted By GoldStorm
Oh Bubba doubled down on CNN last night. He is still playing the victim card.
What a *******. If simply putting a loop on something makes it a noose, I guess my shoes have 4 nooses on them.
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra
You're not really making sense. It's not hard to see where he's coming from and it still is ridiculous. It would have taken all of 1.5 seconds after seeing what looked like a noose to contextualize it and realize it's just a rope to pull a garage door down. This is literally the same thing as walking into a hotel room and thinking the Klan was there because there are white sheets on the bed.

That's what kcadrenalin is getting at - people are literally LOOKING for racist stuff to be offended by. It's a horrible mindset and honestly probably damaging to black America. What kind of message does that set for a black kid, teaching him that every time he turns around there are subtle racist symbols all over being placed by shadowy white bigots all throughout society? They will never succeed in that environment.
From the reports the president of nascar called bubba crying saying there was a possible hate crime in your garage and we are going to have an fbi investigation over the incident eith 15 agents. . That is how bubba found out abiut rhe situation. Has a hotel presidentever called u crying about some sheets?

And in your opinion people are looking for things to claim racism about. Maybe they actually perceive them as racist and you just dont see it. From your experience these situations might not look racist but from their experience they are seen that way and they are starting to speak up about them to show. Their children they will not let it go anymore.
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Originally Posted By STLbuilder
From the reports the president of nascar called bubba crying saying there was a possible hate crime in your garage and we are going to have an fbi investigation over the incident eith 15 agents. . That is how bubba found out abiut rhe situation. Has a hotel presidentever called u crying about some sheets?

And in your opinion people are looking for things to claim racism about. Maybe they actually perceive them as racist and you just dont see it. From your experience these situations might not look racist but from their experience they are seen that way and they are starting to speak up about them to show. Their children they will not let it go anymore.
It's not that they don't LOOK racist.... they LITERALLY ARE NOT RACIST> A KNOT ISN'T PHUCKING RACIST.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
A garage door pull shouldn't necessitate a fukin FBI investigation ffs....

I refuse to believe the world is this stupid...
the fbi called ita noose not a garage door pull. Those were their words
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Originally Posted By GoldStorm
Oh Bubba doubled down on CNN last night. He is still playing the victim card.
Very Jussie-esque
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Originally Posted By STLbuilder
From the reports the president of nascar called bubba crying saying there was a possible hate crime in your garage and we are going to have an fbi investigation over the incident eith 15 agents. . That is how bubba found out abiut rhe situation. Has a hotel presidentever called u crying about some sheets?

And in your opinion people are looking for things to claim racism about. Maybe they actually perceive them as racist and you just dont see it. From your experience these situations might not look racist but from their experience they are seen that way and they are starting to speak up about them to show. Their children they will not let it go anymore.
No hotel president ever called crying about some sheets, because it's absolutely ridiculous so thank you for validating the notion that the NASCAR president called crying about a garage door rope is equally ridiculous.


I don't see it because a ****ing garage door rope with a knot tied in it isn't a racist symbol, and anyone that sees it differently is suffering from a form of derangement. And to reiterate the point, I think it's extremely unhealthy to view everything as potentially racist, when in reality there was no racist intent.
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Originally Posted By STLbuilder
then why did they ban Confederate flag? Maybe because there is a history there that is not acceptable to Nascar anymore. So is nascar racist for banning it?

i think it is because there have been differing experiences unfortunately in this country based on peoples color, culture etc. i dont think it is such a bad thing that nascar thinks about all of its drivers and fans and make changes as needed.
First question is easy: virtue signaling

As far as not blaming Bubba, I get that, at first. He didn't see it, he didn't report it, etc

But it would have taken him two seconds to look inside the garage and say "oh, that's a pull loop".

But did he do that? No. He played the victim right up until the end because it's the most attention he's ever had in his mediocre career.
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Originally Posted By STLbuilder
I dont Blame bubba and his team. If u put it in context of just banning the confederate flag and hate mail he was getting it make sense to report it just in case. Let the investigation happen and we all move on. It shows that racism will not be tolerated in nascar and from the African Americans i have talked to a hangmangmans noose style knot has a much different meaning in their experience than us white people.
Bullchit.

He knew it wasn't a noose. He knew it was a garage door pull and that every garage door in the complex had one. He knew NASCAR has the best security money can buy and redneck klansmen don't have access to those garage doors.

In spite of all this, he went on TV and when asked about people who were calling it a hoax or misunderstanding, he said those people were ignorant and racist for even questioning the authenticity of the charge.

He's the one who committed a crime. False reporting of a crime is a crime.

On top of that, every other NASCAR team and the organization jumped in to virtue signal and call their own fanbase a bunch of racists.

Eff them. The crime here is that independent thought is now illegal. You have to agree with the marxist narrative or say nothing at all. That's not the America I grew up in. That's not the America I want to live in. I personally think the 2nd civil war has begun. I'm ready to fight the marxists in the street if necessary. I won't live under marxism. Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
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Bubba is a cuck *******. Bubba Smolett Kaepernick. Career was over, no sponsor, oh racism!

Dude hasn't won a race in over 200 starts. Phuckin' loser. Quit.
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Originally Posted By bigcat3655
First question is easy: virtue signaling

As far as not blaming Bubba, I get that, at first. He didn't see it, he didn't report it, etc

But it would have taken him two seconds to look inside the garage and say "oh, that's a pull loop".

But did he do that? No. He played the victim right up until the end because it's the most attention he's ever had in his mediocre career.
this is just it for me. Not only did he not act like a normal person. Like, let me see what youre talking about. He played up the victim card to the fullest. He's to blame because he took full advantage and didn't inject any common sense at all.
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