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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
Pretty sure birth control is a bigger culprit for non monogamy.Youd probably see a resurgence of monogomy being pushed instead of widespread sexual degeneracy.
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10-09-2020, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted By RHbunkin⏩
Yes i agree.. could have gone a little further to illustrate the frequency. But i dont think the frequencies are nearly the sameWomen get horny too I just feel like for women it is more so at certain ages but with men we are always trying to get pussy.
10-09-2020, 12:02 PM
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does fapping on omegle count as porn?
10-09-2020, 12:06 PM
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Porn is awful and it is terrible that it is accepted with hardly any push back, but I don't support banning it at all. The only legitimate use of government power is stopping violations of individual rights, which doesn't occur in porn. It is not the government's role to force people to be moral. Virtue must be something people choose. Those of us who know how evil porn is have to do a better job of convincing people why it's so bad. That's not an impossible task. The rise of nofap shows that lots of people have figured out how much damage the modern approach to sex causes.
Secondly, from a practical standpoint, banning porn is completely unrealistic. First there is the problem that not more than 5% of the population would support it. Then there's the fact that banning porn in the age of the internet is impossible. You could stop porn no more than you could stop people from pirating movies and video games. Professional porn might get shut down but the amateur stuff and porn from other countries would still exist. I still wouldn't support banning porn even if were practically possible, but those who would support it should at least recognize that what they support is impossible.
Secondly, from a practical standpoint, banning porn is completely unrealistic. First there is the problem that not more than 5% of the population would support it. Then there's the fact that banning porn in the age of the internet is impossible. You could stop porn no more than you could stop people from pirating movies and video games. Professional porn might get shut down but the amateur stuff and porn from other countries would still exist. I still wouldn't support banning porn even if were practically possible, but those who would support it should at least recognize that what they support is impossible.
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10-09-2020, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You're missing the point here (on purpose). But that's okay.Sorry to hear you don't take responsibility for your own issues, and require your government to tell you what is good for you.

Nobody is going to take away your precious porn bro relax.
But at least regulate it, limit it's promotional scope and take away the destructive liberal agenda it represents and the pollution of young minds.
In your world it would be okay to have scat porn and bestiality adverts inbetween teletubbies.

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10-09-2020, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By AgentSkyhawk⏩
Riley Reid will 100% find a dude with a good career who wants to settle down. 100%.Mostly the women. it gained a bit of news when 3 of them died within less than 3 months of each other i believe(August Ames by suicide, Amber Rayne by overdose, Shyla Styles unresponsive). The last popular dude in porn just realized he was burning his money on drugs and went christian and didn't go back. Rarely it's the men who are affected.
Johnny sins can get out the game and legit wife up a 23yr old. Riley Reid can't do that.
But it's the cold truth, in 2020 you know what you're getting yourself into as a chick doing porn and in exchange for the fast money(up to a grand a scene) and possibly long career of 10+years and whatever fame comes your way, You're checking out on finding actual love, someone who loves you for you, not because of scene 43, 5:24-5:31
Johnny sins can get out the game and legit wife up a 23yr old. Riley Reid can't do that.
But it's the cold truth, in 2020 you know what you're getting yourself into as a chick doing porn and in exchange for the fast money(up to a grand a scene) and possibly long career of 10+years and whatever fame comes your way, You're checking out on finding actual love, someone who loves you for you, not because of scene 43, 5:24-5:31
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10-09-2020, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon⏩
What if I told you men used to whack off using just their imaginations. Pornography causes far more sexual disfunction than it fixes.
Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Correct response to people claiming reducing the availability of porn would increase "men gone wild".yea if you can't get off with out porn and/or increasingly explicit porn then yea - you probably have a problem.
Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
The real issue with porn today is it's invasive and promoted. Porn used to be a sought-after, paid for service. Now it is free, insidious and saturates the internet. Kids are being exposed to it far too easily too.
In the UK they were talking about bringing out an 'opt-in' law, meaning that if you want to watch porn, you have to notify your ISP.This means by default there is far less chance of being accidentally exposed to it. Not sure what happened with that law/if it's been passed, but I think it should be made global.
In the UK they were talking about bringing out an 'opt-in' law, meaning that if you want to watch porn, you have to notify your ISP.This means by default there is far less chance of being accidentally exposed to it. Not sure what happened with that law/if it's been passed, but I think it should be made global.
Originally Posted By wave_length⏩
Completely in favor of gating it, or at least attempting to. Could be an ISP "opt in" which would make very good sense for businesses and families with minors, or some type of age verification ID system (better than "pinky swear you aren't a minor"). I had thought maybe there could be a requirement for a credit card, even if it is a token charge ($1) since you are supposed to be 18 to get a credit card in the US, but I'm not sure how you would verify it is a "real" credit card and not a gift card or something.There is no doubt that it should be made unavailabe for minors.If you wanna purchase it in a store, you'll have to be over 18, makes no sense to have free access on the internet. For adults however, we know about the negative effects it can have. I'd rather decide for myself than have everything decided for me by the government.
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10-09-2020, 12:31 PM
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It is bad but we have no right to dictate what people want to do in the privacy of their own place. You start making porn illegal and you go down a slope of banning other things you might thing is bad. Video games, drinking, smoking, etc. Where would it stop?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I do, but there's only so much a father can do to protect his kids when so many of their peers have parents like you.But at least try to instill a sense of morals in your children
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10-09-2020, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
I get that - and I think there is a level of benefit for kids to go find and do something their parents don't let them do within reason. It's part of growing up. Honestly, i don't know how a kid could be accessing porn to such a level it is doing harm outside of their own home - with the exception of on their phone - but you should be able to monitor that as the parent. Like I saw some playboys at my friends and we would descramble cinemax back in the day - but other than a sleepover I don't know how they would get sufficient access and I think it would be pretty obvious to the parents that something is changing with their kid.I do, but there's only so much a father can do to protect his kids when so many of their peers have parents like you.
10-09-2020, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
David Cameron tried initiating something similar over here. It is basically totally unenforceable.Completely in favor of gating it, or at least attempting to. Could be an ISP "opt in" which would make very good sense for businesses and families with minors, or some type of age verification ID system (better than "pinky swear you aren't a minor"). I had thought maybe there could be a requirement for a credit card, even if it is a token charge ($1) since you are supposed to be 18 to get a credit card in the US, but I'm not sure how you would verify it is a "real" credit card and not a gift card or something.
'Merica has a very prudish view to all this IMO, violence and guns are fine but naked women? Nope. None of the views put forward are based on any credible evidence. Over here we have boobs all over page three newspapers and Germany has porn all over TV but the sky doesn't fall.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
lmfao you're ragingWell, I hope you succeed where your parents failed. Highly unlikely, especially when so many of their peers have parents like you.
You see how ineffective ad hominem attacks are that aren't based on anything?
Here's one that's 100% true :
You could probably do more as a father if you stopped spending time and effort trying to one up a random person on a homoerotic bodybuilding forum.
There's no need to be upset.
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You see how ineffective ad hominem attacks are that aren't based on anything?
Here's one that's 100% true :
You could probably do more as a father if you stopped spending time and effort trying to one up a random person on a homoerotic bodybuilding forum.
There's no need to be upset.

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10-09-2020, 12:56 PM
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Are you guys aware of how close the porn industry was to being shut down completely in the 80s?
It was all over, I think her name was Tracii Lords - essentially she made a career's worth of porn while underage. Turned 18 and produced her own movie starring herself and then announcing she was underage in all the others - making them deemed child porn. the only reason the industry wasn't shut down in court, they showed that the government issued her a passport with her fake birthday and if the government was fooled by her, you can't hold the industry to a higher standard for verification.
Granted the industry is completely different now than then. As someone said the amateur stuff has taken a a huge chunk of it and not just the onlyfans stuff - if you look at the top stars on PH there are amateurs in the top 20, if not top 10.
It was all over, I think her name was Tracii Lords - essentially she made a career's worth of porn while underage. Turned 18 and produced her own movie starring herself and then announcing she was underage in all the others - making them deemed child porn. the only reason the industry wasn't shut down in court, they showed that the government issued her a passport with her fake birthday and if the government was fooled by her, you can't hold the industry to a higher standard for verification.
Granted the industry is completely different now than then. As someone said the amateur stuff has taken a a huge chunk of it and not just the onlyfans stuff - if you look at the top stars on PH there are amateurs in the top 20, if not top 10.
10-09-2020, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Beararms⏩
Well the premium stuff shouldn't be free. Just 10 years ago you had to search for a while to find a decent video, now all of the paid stuff is out in the openIt is bad but we have no right to dictate what people want to do in the privacy of their own place. You start making porn illegal and you go down a slope of banning other things you might thing is bad. Video games, drinking, smoking, etc. Where would it stop?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
...I assume you're talking about the USA porn industry? You know it's a global thing right?Are you guys aware of how close the porn industry was to being shut down completely in the 80s?
It was all over, I think her name was Tracii Lords - essentially she made a career's worth of porn while underage. Turned 18 and produced her own movie starring herself and then announcing she was underage in all the others - making them deemed child porn. the only reason the industry wasn't shut down in court, they showed that the government issued her a passport with her fake birthday and if the government was fooled by her, you can't hold the industry to a higher standard for verification.
Granted the industry is completely different now than then. As someone said the amateur stuff has taken a a huge chunk of it and not just the onlyfans stuff - if you look at the top stars on PH there are amateurs in the top 20, if not top 10.
It was all over, I think her name was Tracii Lords - essentially she made a career's worth of porn while underage. Turned 18 and produced her own movie starring herself and then announcing she was underage in all the others - making them deemed child porn. the only reason the industry wasn't shut down in court, they showed that the government issued her a passport with her fake birthday and if the government was fooled by her, you can't hold the industry to a higher standard for verification.
Granted the industry is completely different now than then. As someone said the amateur stuff has taken a a huge chunk of it and not just the onlyfans stuff - if you look at the top stars on PH there are amateurs in the top 20, if not top 10.
Just lol of you think it would just go away..
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10-09-2020, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
did I say it would just go away? Nor do I think we should even try it. It was just the point that the gov has lost to the porn industry once already....I assume you're talking about the USA porn industry? You know it's a global thing right?
Just lol of you think it would just go away..
Just lol of you think it would just go away..
Also there is so much nanny software out there I don't understand why the government would have to make it an opt in through the ISP when people can take a proactive approach
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
I implied that it would go away now if the gov wanted it to? No, I never did cause the gov would never win and even if it somehow did with the internet it would still be there.no, you implied it though.
If you mean I implied it back in the day? Yes, it was that close to destroying the industry completely. I believe at the time it was not a global industry and somewhere are 98% was made in the states. And with the lack of technology back then when it was still being distributed on film or VHS and even the production equipment was not readily available....it was this close to being gone. It would have come back eventually but it would have taken some time. It did take a few years for the industry to recover as it is, and the dvd coming out was a large reason.
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Originally Posted By GravityLee⏩
He chose drugs and vanity and died alone at 22 as a drug addict with the same insecurities he sought to fix by shoving needles into ass and covering himself with tattoos. Bad example.I’m not a zyzz fan
But honestly if you look at his life he could have chosen porn and video games and stayed a no friends no girls weakling. Its a choice every young man has. Many people are weakand going to choose porn and video games.
But honestly if you look at his life he could have chosen porn and video games and stayed a no friends no girls weakling. Its a choice every young man has. Many people are weakand going to choose porn and video games.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
all our love to you and your fleshlightSame to you. Don't forget to kiss your kids goodnight!


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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I used to have one - no shame, they're great and I was freshly single and not really wanting to date right away. There are better options now and cheaper too.I don't own a single one. You must be a fleshlight addict to even think of that.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
..you still here?I don't own a single one. You must be a fleshlight addict to even think of that.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
No offence but what was the post fap shame levels when you had to clear it out? that bit must have been groce..no?I used to have one - no shame, they're great and I was freshly single and not really wanting to date right away. There are better options now and cheaper too.
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Post made me realize.. I could use a good fap before the wife and kid get home.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
zero shame - I have to clean up post fap whether it is in a fleshlight, in my hand, on an old towel. Why would I be ashamed? I've had it or something similar for five years now, I've told every woman I dated in that timeframe that I had one and none of them are phased. Several were even, I don't want to say impressed but interested I guess since as I told them, I am not one to just run out and sleep with anyone, I might go a few months without sex so making jerking off more fun was great - and they thought that's a better character trait than sleeping around casually.No offence but what was the post fap shame levels when you had to clear it out? that bit must have been groce..no?
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I'm thinking about this now cause it never even crossed my mind that I should be ashamed of it. My longterm gf and I broke up on a Monday and I bought the thing on Thursday as I was driving to Maine for a buddy's wedding and I thought I would at least have fun with it for the weekend and I told some friends that at the wedding. They weren't so common yet then and friends wanted reviews of it.
Also now I think of it I know two guys whose wives bought them for them. One was at the end of her pregnancy and had lost all sex drive and gave it to him half jokingly to leave her alone. The other was was dealing with losing her mom and was on anti-depressants and lost all sex drive and she got it for him sincerely cause she knew he was feeling neglected.
Also now I think of it I know two guys whose wives bought them for them. One was at the end of her pregnancy and had lost all sex drive and gave it to him half jokingly to leave her alone. The other was was dealing with losing her mom and was on anti-depressants and lost all sex drive and she got it for him sincerely cause she knew he was feeling neglected.
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Originally Posted By Tanerian⏩
You read my mindPost made me realize.. I could use a good fap before the wife and kid get home.
Thanks OP.
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