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post 1628552593 01-14-2021, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted By 2am
Wait, doesn't matter. Evidence is imaginary.
Just like the k in the misc. I mean misk

O fuk it
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post 1628552793 01-14-2021, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted By squat_blaster
OP: How can you talk about black holes and not mention the Event Horizon? You should watch "How the Universe Works" on SCI.
Way to show me that you didn't do any reading and don't understand at all what I wrote.
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OP's post is not coherent to physicists. It is not even remotely valid. Like the words are there, but none of it makes sense. It's like an AI generated string of trash.
Using your own comparison, whomever the administrator, programmer/developer, game master, and user are that created your algorithm, they should be fired for incompetence, their work/your algorithm discarded into the trash forever to never be used again, and those people never allowed to work in that industry again. That's a stupid mentality to have. Lucky for you, mentality is always changing. So there is room for improvement.
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Originally Posted By Gt3x24x7
Way to show me that you didn't do any reading and don't understand at all what I wrote.



Using your own comparison, whomever the administrator, programmer/developer, game master, and user are that created your algorithm, they should be fired for incompetence, their work/your algorithm discarded into the trash forever to never be used again, and those people never allowed to work in that industry again. That's a stupid mentality to have. Lucky for you, mentality is always changing. So there is room for improvement.
Sure bud.
post 1628553543 01-14-2021, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Gt3x24x7
Way to show me that you didn't do any reading and don't understand at all what I wrote.



Using your own comparison, whomever the administrator, programmer/developer, game master, and user are that created your algorithm, they should be fired for incompetence, their work/your algorithm discarded into the trash forever to never be used again, and those people never allowed to work in that industry again. That's a stupid mentality to have. Lucky for you, mentality is always changing. So there is room for improvement.
You have a poor attitude. Lighten up dudebro.
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post 1628554843 01-14-2021, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619
Where's the evidence?
If you do the math on the stars orbiting the center of our galaxy their orbits and speeds of these orbits is not consistent with the mass that could occupy the center of the galaxy if that mass consisted of mater in its usual structural form that being atoms consisting of almost entirely empty space.

You can also use the math that predicts the rate at which space-time collapses into an object (what we call gravity) relative to its mass to determine just how much mass is needed to create the orbits at the center of our galaxy.

Finally you can use that number and compare it to the forces atoms exert keeping themselves "inflated" and see that atoms could not possibly resist the inward crush of space-time and that inward flow of space-time at a certain point exceeds the speed of light hence the "black" in black hole. Light within the region collapsing faster than the speed of light obviously can never escape.
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post 1628555163 01-14-2021, 08:56 AM
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In related physics, the moon does not have a circular trajectory, it moves in a perfectly straight line. That straight line exists within space-time that is curved by earth's mass.

If you balance the inward flow of space-time with the right velocity perpendicular to the central object you get stable orbit.
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post 1628651473 01-15-2021, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619
Where's the evidence?
As mentioned above, they can be inferred by the motion of objects in the vicinity of the 'gravity well' that's formed.

Particles, in the absence of external forces follow straight line paths under their own inertia, and when a region of space time is warped by a massive object such as a black hole, they end up following a geodesic (essentially a straight line over a 'curved' spacetime). Using Einsteins field equations, we can make predictions about the relative motion of objects if a black hole was present, then compare the motions predicted to actual empirical measurements.

So as nosirrahx mentions above, the moon actually follows a straight path under it's inertia, but because it's in the 'gravity well' that earth forms, this straight path ends up being a geodesic and we get a stable orbit.

So essentially, what we do is, we predict how objects in a region would behave if there were a black hole there using the best model we have (which is currently General Relativity), and then we compare that to the empirical data.

As for OP, he may use physics words but most of what he says is nonsensical to physicists.
post 1628653413 01-15-2021, 08:33 AM
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Black holes are just about the most fascinating things in the “physical” universe, and I suspect hold they key to understanding the nature of reality.

My pet theory is on the other side of a black hole is a white hole and an entirely different universe.

If we want to get wilder, said universe isn’t physical in the way of what we consider physical but rather it’s a hologram projected from the 2D surface of the white hole. In a sense, the black hole is a giant computer, perhaps even a conscious entity “dreaming” its universe into existence.

Working backwards, our universe is not physical with respect to our parent universe, which in turn is a dream of its parent and so on. What lies at the beginning then? Perhaps just an eternal randomness.
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Originally Posted By CookieFactory
Black holes are just about the most fascinating things in the “physical” universe, and I suspect hold they key to understanding the nature of reality.

My pet theory is on the other side of a black hole is a white hole and an entirely different universe.

If we want to get wilder, said universe isn’t physical in the way of what we consider physical but rather it’s a hologram projected from the 2D surface of the white hole. In a sense, the black hole is a giant computer, perhaps even a conscious entity “dreaming” its universe into existence.

Working backwards, our universe is not physical with respect to our parent universe, which in turn is a dream of its parent and so on. What lies at the beginning then? Perhaps just an eternal randomness.
It sounds like you're quoting the holographic principle and/or ADSCFT correspondence both of which arose from String theory research (so if you came up with it by yourself - nice), but it doesn't state that the universe isn't physical, it states that the 3 spacial dimensions of the universe can be encoded on a 2 dimension surface much like a hologram, which was something Leonard Susskind proposed after finding the information in a black hole can be stored in it's surface area, rather than its volume as one would expect. In this way, the 3 dimensions we see are 'emergent' in a way from the surface area they're encoded on, it doesn't mean they aren't 'physical' or 'real', the same information still exists if you subscribe to this theory, it is simply encoded differently to what our intuition tells us. Things that are emergent are still real.

It's also worth noting that ADSCFT works in anti desitter space with a negative cosmological constant, so it probably isn't a perfect model for our universe, because most evidence points to the cosmological constant of our universe being positive.
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Originally Posted By TappingTheZen
It's also worth noting that ADSCFT works in anti desitter space with a negative cosmological constant, so it probably isn't a perfect model for our universe, because most evidence points to thecosmological constantof our universe being positive.
My own "tin foil hat" theory involves solving the cosmological crisis, solving the mystery of dark matter and solving the mystery of dark energy all being tied to proving that our universe is simulated.

I often ask myself "What would I do with a 'universe simulator'?" Without question I would create a universe with near perfect physics but with slight inconsistencies that would be both hard to detect and even harder to understand but also inextricably tied to the fundamental nature of the simulation ....... and then sit back and see if emergent civilizations could figure it out.

I look at experiments like the double slit being circumstantial evidence of programmatic optimization artifacts. The double slit experiment implies that nothing exists with specific attributes unless those attributes are needed in an exchange of information and in all other circumstances a lossy compression is used to store a "good enough" version. In short the 2 piles are the decompressed bitmap, the interference pattern is the compressed file on disk.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx
My own "tin foil hat" theory involves solving the cosmological crisis, solving the mystery of dark matter and solving the mystery of dark energy all being tied to proving that our universe is simulated.

I often ask myself "What would I do with a 'universe simulator'?" Without question I would create a universe with near perfect physics but with slight inconsistencies that would be both hard to detect and even harder to understand but also inextricably tied to the fundamental nature of the simulation ....... and then sit back and see if emergent civilizations could figure it out.

I look at experiments like the double slit being circumstantial evidence of programmatic optimization artifacts. The double slit experiment implies that nothing exists with specific attributes unless those attributes are needed in an exchange of information and in all other circumstances a lossy compression is used to store a "good enough" version. In short the 2 piles are the decompressed bitmap, the interference pattern is the compressed file on disk.
Just like the old saying. “Explore and learn.” You have to explore and then ponder anything that somehow matches up. Verses just everything is all theory now. You noticed that ****? Its just all theory. Nobody has ever proven a bull theory. It just sounds good on paper and that’s about it. Seriously. How stupid is it that you cannot even prove your theory? And yet, they look at it and start clapping and they’ll give you a freaking Nobel prize. “Oh, am I supposed to learn?”

Duh, just because you are able to think and imagine bull ****. But then next thing you know, it’s not even feasible in a laboratory. And yet, they’re able to convince stupid ass investors to spend billions to what? Make a freaking collider in order to prove a freaking theory. Then all they’re just doing is wasting resources. Mankind’s resources. They just want to freaking see how things blow up. That’s all. When you look at it. If you’re going to do that, you might as well send that money to others so they can get rid of their freaking debt. They’ll be forever grateful. But instead, they’re using people and their resources taking it all the way to do vanity **** like that.

What are they studying? Nothing, just particles. Particle physics. Ewwwwww. What are you planning on learning from it? “I don’t know. Discovery of dark matter?” They say there is 73% of it in the universe and yet they haven’t found a trace of it. Haven’t found a single trace of it. And when you do, what are you going to do with it and how are you going to go from there? Then what? Yeah, so it means it does not exist. Once you find out dark matter does not exist, then what are you going to do?

****, plasma is the fourth state of matter. None of these cores are actually exploring any of that. Other than things that are actually just doing the electrical universe. I bought all the physics textbooks used at my university, all the way from beginner to the most advanced. I looked through them all. No mention of plasmoids at all. Very minimum on plasma alone. That’s because it is all plasma science. Look at plasma science. In those books, there is so much on anything but plasma science. That’s because they want to root for the most expensive thing they can get.

Freaking plasma science. Did you know that you can actually hold fusion and then fill it up by the fusion from the Sun that is actually at the surface of the Sun? Not on the core? Sun is a big ball of plasma. Things that are known about it and all those little lines that stick out of it? Those are known as spicules. Those are positive negative charged spicules. And they never know a whole lot more about it than that. But the first part is just that, that’s just when the inside is colder than the surface. Doesn’t that go against everything they thought? So what the hell does that say? It means whatever theory that, whatever it is, just a sunspot alone is proof already that that **** is not real.

You don’t even need to look beyond this local star system to begin seeing the BS in modern physics. You know, the sun is not gravity-based. Gravity-based physics is so unstable. Very chaotic. Why are you not focusing more on plasma science? You can get more a lot more stuff done. Well, they have electricity. And plasma, which is the cause of fusion. Just think about it. The EU, electric universe. Look them up. What the electric universe guys say is provable in a lab.
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op on dat dere schizophrenia time again
post 1634333603 03-22-2021, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel
op on dat dere schizophrenia time again
Haha you're banned. I hope you get effective treatment for your condition. I couldn't decide if I wanted to merge my other thread I just made on plasmoids, electricity, and entanglement and more with this. Also you're just a room temperature glass of water, you're not cool or hot, you're just room temperature
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It's pretty hilarious when retards in their mom's basement try to sound smart and convince everyone they aren't worthless pieces of sht
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Originally Posted By ExPatriot
Reading this thread and remembering you getting ethered was quite enjoyable - thanks for bumping it!

Here's you reading the responses:

Spoiler!
Originally Posted By DesiredUser****
It's pretty hilarious when retards in their mom's basement try to sound smart and convince everyone they aren't worthless pieces of sht
Lol any time a new idea is presented, its like immediately half of the planet is already against you without even fully reading for themselves or finding out what the **** the concepts presented are. So then you get called stupid for it. Its not hard. Its just a word. If you emotionally break down or lose your mental **** over a word with no charge behind it said to you, and the first and only thought you can think of is to insult me, then you are stupid. Only the stupid ones fight. Only the stupid ones respond to violence with greater violence and insults. I just called you stupid one time.

And thanks for the compliment, **** is the most valuable thing in the universe. You'll understand if I throw you and lock you in a prison cell like solitary confinement with no bathroom, and don't allow you to use the bathroom. Eventually you will have to. And when you do, then you'll realize the value of **** and what I just told you. And why its a compliment to me, you just called me the most valuable thing in the universe
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The real question OP is what happens to quantum information in a black hole?
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