Thread: RIP if you took the Vaccine
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Originally Posted By StoliFun⏩
No, they aren't.I hope many will wise up before long. Half the people in the ICU in Ontario now are under 60.
Tell your mom to calm down and stop listening to her.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
https://www.tvo.org/article/heres-on...19-modelling-0No, they aren't.
Tell your mom to calm down and stop listening to her.
Tell your mom to calm down and stop listening to her.
"People under 60 now make up nearly half of Ontario’s COVID-19 ICU patients."
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K all I'm doing is staying in doors to see how this chit pans put. There wasn't nearly enough done compared to what they do regularly with vaccines. I'll watch the first 100 million walk around for a few months and see what happens.
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
literally the only good post this POS has ever typed upYeah, I am not into conspiracy theories but I think I will pass on the vaccine. My whole family even my employer are encouraging me to take it but... No thanks
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Originally Posted By Swept⏩
If someone HAD taken the jab, and subsequently contracted Alzheimers, how would they remember to tell you about it?"That boulder is too large. I could lift a smaller one."
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Originally Posted By StoliFun⏩
it's not real to me!!!!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEhttps://www.tvo.org/article/heres-on...19-modelling-0
"People under 60 now make up nearly half of Ontario’s COVID-19 ICU patients."
"People under 60 now make up nearly half of Ontario’s COVID-19 ICU patients."
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Who gives a fuk about some vaccine....
Whens it all about the dik game?
Whens it all about the dik game?
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Originally Posted By xbluexhawkx⏩
Breaking News: Old people die. Fat people die. Old and fat people die.psychologists would have a field day ITT with all the delusion
if this isn't proof that mass reeducation camps are needed idk what is
why do all the psychopaths keep bringing up the "survival rate"
fact: 574K Americans died the past year with masks AND social distancing AND lockdowns. get help.
if this isn't proof that mass reeducation camps are needed idk what is
why do all the psychopaths keep bringing up the "survival rate"
fact: 574K Americans died the past year with masks AND social distancing AND lockdowns. get help.
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Originally Posted By xbluexhawkx⏩
What is the average age of those people who died? What percentage of them were obese? What percentage of them had underlying illness?psychologists would have a field day ITT with all the delusion
if this isn't proof that mass reeducation camps are needed idk what is
why do all the psychopaths keep bringing up the "survival rate"
fact: 574K Americans died the past year with masks AND social distancing AND lockdowns. get help.
if this isn't proof that mass reeducation camps are needed idk what is
why do all the psychopaths keep bringing up the "survival rate"
fact: 574K Americans died the past year with masks AND social distancing AND lockdowns. get help.
Can you please share those facts with me, since you seem to be so into facts.
Btw, what fact has shown that social distancing, especially masks and lockdowns (of which each state had different methods) are effective? What are they effective at - keeping people from ever getting covid or simply slowing the spread? If it's keeping people from ever getting covid, please explain how that works.
Glad to see you're non-delusional and science-based, it's good that someone here is all about the science and knows what they are talking about.
Originally Posted By StoliFun⏩
Is surviving covid (or avoiding whatever negatives come with getting it, like the potential for lung damage) your only motivation?I was going to drag out getting it, then our governor dropped the mask mandate and whatnot (which thankfully hasn't caused an outbreak) and my brother told me he had just intubated a 40 year old man with no comorbidities and that the guy almost had a heart attack.
While I have a 99.8% likelihood of surviving covid if I get it, the thought of a few days or more of pneumonia, the inflammation lingering in the cardiovascular system, and all the other **** that make this disease a different animal from the flu were enough to convince me to get the vax.
While I have a 99.8% likelihood of surviving covid if I get it, the thought of a few days or more of pneumonia, the inflammation lingering in the cardiovascular system, and all the other **** that make this disease a different animal from the flu were enough to convince me to get the vax.
I believe I already had it - some people were demanding that I still needed to wear masks and get vaccinated.
In any event, more power to you. If you think the risk of covid is greater to you personally than the vaccine you should get it. Do whatever you think is safest for you.
Personally I do not believe the vaccine is some strange conspiracy to wipe people out. I do not believe that it will cause cancer and death down the line. I do believe it was rushed and untested, though - and just google what they did in Africa with bad vaccines. All this talk about them being safe... yeah, MAYBE, but some vaccines have been rushed and have had serious and even deadly consequences in the past and it's not a conspiracy, it's a matter of record.
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Originally Posted By StoliFun⏩
Dude, there's no one in the ICU, I guarantee you.https://www.tvo.org/article/heres-on...19-modelling-0
"People under 60 now make up nearly half of Ontario’s COVID-19 ICU patients."
"People under 60 now make up nearly half of Ontario’s COVID-19 ICU patients."
There was never anyone in the ICU except the target population and there were never overwhelmed ICUs.
The term "more than half" could mean there's two 30 year old cancer patients and one 90 year old.
That's how the fake news goes on this, they leave out details to main their fake points. Virtually no one without the target populations diseases got a serious case of corona.
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Predictions for the vaccine uptake:
50% will get it (aka brainwashed who zuk faucis dik and believe everything they're told by the WHO and double mask like retards)
a further 30% will relent due to threats of not being able to travel or go to some chit concert
a further 10% will cave when there place of work mandates it
the remaining 10% will ride it out like alphas
50% will get it (aka brainwashed who zuk faucis dik and believe everything they're told by the WHO and double mask like retards)
a further 30% will relent due to threats of not being able to travel or go to some chit concert
a further 10% will cave when there place of work mandates it
the remaining 10% will ride it out like alphas
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Not mad that the source is alex jones but annoyed that you used twitter
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Originally Posted By meatlog⏩
Absolutely fukkin no one is going to tell me what goes into my and my families bodies.Predictions for the vaccine uptake:
50% will get it (aka brainwashed who zuk faucis dik and believe everything they're told by the WHO and double mask like retards)
a further 30% will relent due to threats of not being able to travel or go to some chit concert
a further 10% will cave when there place of work mandates it
the remaining 10% will ride it out like alphas
50% will get it (aka brainwashed who zuk faucis dik and believe everything they're told by the WHO and double mask like retards)
a further 30% will relent due to threats of not being able to travel or go to some chit concert
a further 10% will cave when there place of work mandates it
the remaining 10% will ride it out like alphas
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
Just go to weforum. Its in plain sight. Its not conspiracy its just that people are lazy.It's incredible how ignorant some of you people are. Use your critical thinking skills.
Fuking lol @ conspiracy-cels. Pathetic.
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Nothing to see here:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/
Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease
Timothy Cardozo 1, Ronald Veazey 2
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PMID: 33113270 PMCID: PMC7645850 DOI: 10.1111/ijcp.13795
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Abstract
Aims of the study: Patient comprehension is a critical part of meeting medical ethics standards of informed consent in study designs. The aim of the study was to determine if sufficient literature exists to require clinicians to disclose the specific risk thatCOVID-19 vaccines could worsen disease upon exposure to challenge or circulating virus.
Methods used to conduct the study: Published literature was reviewed to identify preclinical and clinical evidence that COVID-19 vaccines could worsen disease upon exposure to challenge or circulating virus. Clinical trial protocols for COVID-19 vaccines were reviewed to determine if risks were properly disclosed.
Results of the study:COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated.Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method,may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID-19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur,obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.
Conclusions drawn from the study and clinical implications: The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for the trials and future patients after vaccine approval,in order to meet the medical ethics standard of patient comprehension for informed consent.
Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease
Timothy Cardozo 1, Ronald Veazey 2
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PMID: 33113270 PMCID: PMC7645850 DOI: 10.1111/ijcp.13795
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Abstract
Aims of the study: Patient comprehension is a critical part of meeting medical ethics standards of informed consent in study designs. The aim of the study was to determine if sufficient literature exists to require clinicians to disclose the specific risk thatCOVID-19 vaccines could worsen disease upon exposure to challenge or circulating virus.
Methods used to conduct the study: Published literature was reviewed to identify preclinical and clinical evidence that COVID-19 vaccines could worsen disease upon exposure to challenge or circulating virus. Clinical trial protocols for COVID-19 vaccines were reviewed to determine if risks were properly disclosed.
Results of the study:COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated.Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method,may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID-19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur,obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.
Conclusions drawn from the study and clinical implications: The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for the trials and future patients after vaccine approval,in order to meet the medical ethics standard of patient comprehension for informed consent.
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Originally Posted By LethalGunz34⏩
(Some) Americans are the the only citizens in the world with a strong taste for freedom. Most other citizens in other countries will listen to their governments tell them to stay home and ldarI want to know why Canada is closed and it’s business as usually here in the states. Or what’s really going on by the Mexican border? I’m reading child sex abuse on Fox. CNN has nothing. Strange World.
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Originally Posted By Dyel1991⏩
if there is any conspiracy, it's going to be that us anti covid vaxers drop off and die from not getting the vaccine. Why would the powers that be want to kill off the herd of sheep, the good little **** as opposed to us who say no we don't trust the government. Watch all of us *******s not taking the vaccine will be dead in a year and then the rest of the population is easily controlled leftiesI definitely think something sketchy is up with the vaccine and will not be taking it. Just think critically for 1 second. Why the need or want to force it on people for something that has a 99.9% survival rate. Makes no sense.
That being said, wouldn’t there be a huge backlash if everyone who took the vaccine starts dropping like flies? Or do they think we are that cucked that we won’t do anything when they start killing millions?
That being said, wouldn’t there be a huge backlash if everyone who took the vaccine starts dropping like flies? Or do they think we are that cucked that we won’t do anything when they start killing millions?
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Old and fat people are still people. Srs.What is the average age of those people who died? What percentage of them were obese? What percentage of them had underlying illness?
Can you please share those facts with me, since you seem to be so into facts.
Btw, what fact has shown that social distancing, especially masks and lockdowns (of which each state had different methods) are effective? What are they effective at - keeping people from ever getting covid or simply slowing the spread? If it's keeping people from ever getting covid, please explain how that works.
Glad to see you're non-delusional and science-based, it's good that someone here is all about the science and knows what they are talking about.
Is surviving covid (or avoiding whatever negatives come with getting it, like the potential for lung damage) your only motivation?
I believe I already had it - some people were demanding that I still needed to wear masks and get vaccinated.
In any event, more power to you. If you think the risk of covid is greater to you personally than the vaccine you should get it. Do whatever you think is safest for you.
Personally I do not believe the vaccine is some strange conspiracy to wipe people out. I do not believe that it will cause cancer and death down the line. I do believe it was rushed and untested, though - and just google what they did in Africa with bad vaccines. All this talk about them being safe... yeah, MAYBE, but some vaccines have been rushed and have had serious and even deadly consequences in the past and it's not a conspiracy, it's a matter of record.
Can you please share those facts with me, since you seem to be so into facts.
Btw, what fact has shown that social distancing, especially masks and lockdowns (of which each state had different methods) are effective? What are they effective at - keeping people from ever getting covid or simply slowing the spread? If it's keeping people from ever getting covid, please explain how that works.
Glad to see you're non-delusional and science-based, it's good that someone here is all about the science and knows what they are talking about.
Is surviving covid (or avoiding whatever negatives come with getting it, like the potential for lung damage) your only motivation?
I believe I already had it - some people were demanding that I still needed to wear masks and get vaccinated.
In any event, more power to you. If you think the risk of covid is greater to you personally than the vaccine you should get it. Do whatever you think is safest for you.
Personally I do not believe the vaccine is some strange conspiracy to wipe people out. I do not believe that it will cause cancer and death down the line. I do believe it was rushed and untested, though - and just google what they did in Africa with bad vaccines. All this talk about them being safe... yeah, MAYBE, but some vaccines have been rushed and have had serious and even deadly consequences in the past and it's not a conspiracy, it's a matter of record.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Yes. Maybe old and fat people should take measures commensurate with their level of risk; you know, vaccinate, or whatever. My level of risk requires different, lesser measures.Old and fat people are still people. Srs.
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Originally Posted By pandaboy89⏩
literally everyone that took the trial 6 months ago is fine today as far as I know, and the 97% efficacy rate is holding up.In 6 months every vaccinecel gonna start dropping like flies and they will blame it on a new corona “variant”.
What do you think the fema camps are for.
What do you think the fema camps are for.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
That was never my point, I have elderly and obese people in my life whom I care for a lot. Why would you even assume something so callous and horrible? What the fuk?Old and fat people are still people. Srs.
I'll spell it out slowly for you, hopefully this time around it's simple enough that you don't immediately jump to sick conclusions.
-- Ok, there are people who take hard stances on either side of this issue: those who think everyone must wear multiple masks, get the vaccine, continue to stay home, breaking the lockdowns is murder, etc Vs those who think the virus is a joke or fake and that the vaccines are death incarnate.
I am neither of those extremes. I think the virus is real and I think some people should consider getting the vaccine.
However, when I quantify "some people" by that I mean only those who are at risk. With the vaccine I would extend that also to people who may not be at risk themselves but will unavoidably be in contact with those who are.
So when I see someone drop "trust the science!!!!!" who also holds this opinion of the vaccine and virus that *EVERYONE* is in the same boat, I am going to bring up how this is not the case and it's not scientific in the least. We absolutely know that the risks for certain people in society (elderly, obese, sickly) are astronomically higher than younger people who are otherwise healthy.
How the fuk you think this means I don't think obese or elderly aren't human beings (and apparently don't care if/when they die) is beyond me, really that says more about you than me, that you would read what I wrote and interpret it that way.
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
Riddle me this.It's incredible how ignorant some of you people are. Use your critical thinking skills.
Fuking lol @ conspiracy-cels. Pathetic.
Fuking lol @ conspiracy-cels. Pathetic.
Is it safer to maintain precautions that will avoid the majority of harmful organisms? Or it it better to take a vaccine and take no precautions (because that's exactly what's going to happen).
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
I honestly think we pretty much agree on the issue. I just constantly see people stating how a vast majority of the people who died from covid are old and fat. While true, it's also pretty irrelevant as the US has an obese and aging population.That was never my point, I have elderly and obese people in my life whom I care for a lot. Why would you even assume something so callous and horrible? What the fuk?
I'll spell it out slowly for you, hopefully this time around it's simple enough that you don't immediately jump to sick conclusions.
-- Ok, there are people who take hard stances on either side of this issue: those who think everyone must wear multiple masks, get the vaccine, continue to stay home, breaking the lockdowns is murder, etc Vs those who think the virus is a joke or fake and that the vaccines are death incarnate.
I am neither of those extremes. I think the virus is real and I think some people should consider getting the vaccine.
However, when I quantify "some people" by that I mean only those who are at risk. With the vaccine I would extend that also to people who may not be at risk themselves but will unavoidably be in contact with those who are.
So when I see someone drop "trust the science!!!!!" who also holds this opinion of the vaccine and virus that *EVERYONE* is in the same boat, I am going to bring up how this is not the case and it's not scientific in the least. We absolutely know that the risks for certain people in society (elderly, obese, sickly) are astronomically higher than younger people who are otherwise healthy.
How the fuk you think this means I don't think obese or elderly aren't human beings (and apparently don't care if/when they die) is beyond me, really that says more about you than me, that you would read what I wrote and interpret it that way.
I'll spell it out slowly for you, hopefully this time around it's simple enough that you don't immediately jump to sick conclusions.
-- Ok, there are people who take hard stances on either side of this issue: those who think everyone must wear multiple masks, get the vaccine, continue to stay home, breaking the lockdowns is murder, etc Vs those who think the virus is a joke or fake and that the vaccines are death incarnate.
I am neither of those extremes. I think the virus is real and I think some people should consider getting the vaccine.
However, when I quantify "some people" by that I mean only those who are at risk. With the vaccine I would extend that also to people who may not be at risk themselves but will unavoidably be in contact with those who are.
So when I see someone drop "trust the science!!!!!" who also holds this opinion of the vaccine and virus that *EVERYONE* is in the same boat, I am going to bring up how this is not the case and it's not scientific in the least. We absolutely know that the risks for certain people in society (elderly, obese, sickly) are astronomically higher than younger people who are otherwise healthy.
How the fuk you think this means I don't think obese or elderly aren't human beings (and apparently don't care if/when they die) is beyond me, really that says more about you than me, that you would read what I wrote and interpret it that way.
I chose you to quote since of the people here, you're generally more level headed and worth discussing. I'll he honest, I didn't read 80% of the post I quoted. My 7 word sentence was not meant as an attack on your logic.
Idgaf if people choose to get vax or not. I have grown annoyed of the antivax retardation tho. How ironic it's mostly the same mouth breathing qtards who fall for all and any anti culture online.
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My family refuses to see me unless I get the vaccine. Wut do Misc?
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Hayzeus is the residentThat was never my point, I have elderly and obese people in my life whom I care for a lot. Why would you even assume something so callous and horrible? What the fuk?
I'll spell it out slowly for you, hopefully this time around it's simple enough that you don't immediately jump to sick conclusions.
-- Ok, there are people who take hard stances on either side of this issue: those who think everyone must wear multiple masks, get the vaccine, continue to stay home, breaking the lockdowns is murder, etc Vs those who think the virus is a joke or fake and that the vaccines are death incarnate.
I am neither of those extremes. I think the virus is real and I think some people should consider getting the vaccine.
However, when I quantify "some people" by that I mean only those who are at risk. With the vaccine I would extend that also to people who may not be at risk themselves but will unavoidably be in contact with those who are.
So when I see someone drop "trust the science!!!!!" who also holds this opinion of the vaccine and virus that *EVERYONE* is in the same boat, I am going to bring up how this is not the case and it's not scientific in the least. We absolutely know that the risks for certain people in society (elderly, obese, sickly) are astronomically higher than younger people who are otherwise healthy.
How the fuk you think this means I don't think obese or elderly aren't human beings (and apparently don't care if/when they die) is beyond me, really that says more about you than me, that you would read what I wrote and interpret it that way.
I'll spell it out slowly for you, hopefully this time around it's simple enough that you don't immediately jump to sick conclusions.
-- Ok, there are people who take hard stances on either side of this issue: those who think everyone must wear multiple masks, get the vaccine, continue to stay home, breaking the lockdowns is murder, etc Vs those who think the virus is a joke or fake and that the vaccines are death incarnate.
I am neither of those extremes. I think the virus is real and I think some people should consider getting the vaccine.
However, when I quantify "some people" by that I mean only those who are at risk. With the vaccine I would extend that also to people who may not be at risk themselves but will unavoidably be in contact with those who are.
So when I see someone drop "trust the science!!!!!" who also holds this opinion of the vaccine and virus that *EVERYONE* is in the same boat, I am going to bring up how this is not the case and it's not scientific in the least. We absolutely know that the risks for certain people in society (elderly, obese, sickly) are astronomically higher than younger people who are otherwise healthy.
How the fuk you think this means I don't think obese or elderly aren't human beings (and apparently don't care if/when they die) is beyond me, really that says more about you than me, that you would read what I wrote and interpret it that way.
Leftist and closeted homosexual who seems to get defensive about protecting
Child lovers and also seems to have a learning disability.
Im glad you took the time to be patient with him in helping him understand basic logic and simple human concepts .
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