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post 1643257453 07-20-2021, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
In a room full of young slim natty college HBB girls plus bodybuilder guys plus this guy, I guarantee you 99% would go for this guy.

youre basically saying frat guys get laid more than the football players in college which 1000% is not true.
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post 1643257663 07-20-2021, 02:19 PM
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So I’m reading that you lift for women

Cool
post 1643257903 07-20-2021, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
So I’m reading that you lift for women

Cool
Yeah...I hate when I have to agree with Rabbit, but sometimes I do.

Are you doing it because you actually enjoy the activity and the process, or because you think that's how you will best impress women?
post 1643257983 07-20-2021, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Yeah...I hate when I have to agree with Rabbit, but sometimes I do.

Are you doing it because you actually enjoy the activity and the process, or because you think that's how you will best impress women?
You love me

LOL
post 1643258173 07-20-2021, 02:27 PM
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Agree with op although wouldnt say cbum size, a bit smaller than that. Would be nice if there was some female miscers to provide input and not a deranged paedo
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post 1643258183 07-20-2021, 02:27 PM
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They like muscle but not when you take it to extreme

post 1643258563 07-20-2021, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Kabamaro
They like muscle but not when you take it to extreme

ha this guy honestly looks pretty bad, and this seems like an awful social setting to expect to meet people as a lone dude.

More shoulders, less stomach and a halfway normal social situation, and he would do okay.
post 1643258853 07-20-2021, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
So I’m reading that you lift for women

Cool
^Exactly this. That's OP's motivation to take celltech and gain an abnormal amount of muscle mass. To each his own. Personally, I've never lifted for female attention. It's always just been fun for me, setting goals and PR's. Plus, virtually every physical activity I take part in on a daily basis becomes easier when I'm stronger/have more muscle. Work becomes easy.
post 1643259373 07-20-2021, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted By mesobuild
ha this guy honestly looks pretty bad, and this seems like an awful social setting to expect to meet people as a lone dude.

More shoulders, less stomach and a halfway normal social situation, and he would do okay.
yeah i have refuted this guy as an example plenty of times, hes wearing goofy old man sunglasses, bloated AF at a pool, walking around like an autist with terrible body language
Originally Posted By Polaris
Yeah...I hate when I have to agree with Rabbit, but sometimes I do.

Are you doing it because you actually enjoy the activity and the process, or because you think that's how you will best impress women?
i dont see how because I have made an observation of a reaction it means that is why I did this in the first place.
The answer is no i definitely do not bodybuild for women lol. The amount of stupid sht I have dont to get this far in bodybuilding does not equate to it being worth the effort.

Just stating ive clearly seen the amount of attention/attraction increase big time in correlation to the muscle I have gained. I also am not a walking bloatlord though and stay pretty lean and am not a social retard.
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post 1643259423 07-20-2021, 02:48 PM
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I just try to stay lean and vascular and the majority of women seem to like that
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post 1643259493 07-20-2021, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
yeah i have refuted this guy as an example plenty of times, hes wearing goofy old man sunglasses, bloated AF at a pool, walking around like an autist with terrible body language



i dont see how because I have made an observation of a reaction it means that is why I did this in the first place.
The answer is no i definitely do not bodybuild for women lol. The amount of stupid sht I have dont to get this far in bodybuilding does not equate to it being worth the effort.

Just stating ive clearly seen the amount of attention/attraction increase big time in correlation to the muscle I have gained. I also am not a walking bloatlord though and stay pretty lean andam not a social retard.
Nailed it
post 1643260093 07-20-2021, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
In a room full of young slim natty college HBB girls plus bodybuilder guys plus this guy, I guarantee you 99% would go for this guy.

The interesting question here is

In a room with only this guy and his clone carrying 10 pounds more muscle, what would the women do?

You need to hold everything else constant, otherwise the thought experiment is meaningless.

Brad Pitt in Fight Club vs Brad Pitt in Troy is a real world approximation of that relevant thought experiment (age is not constant hence «approximation»)

Or Chris Hemsworth before vs after Thor.
post 1643260123 07-20-2021, 02:56 PM
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low bf % (12% or below), good proportions, small waist and broad shoulders is ideal. You add a good face to that and good height and its playing life on easy mode. Once you have all that, you can add 20-50 lbs of muscle and still get away with it depending on your frame. Some girls may get turned off but some other girls may be turned on by the size. Keep a lean stomach and a small waist and you should be good to go.


Also, never wear tight clothing, that makes you look lame as fuk. Just clothes that fit your body so you can show off a bit without looking like you are trapped inside a condom
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post 1643260213 07-20-2021, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
no was just arguing in another thread yesterday where miscers were once again saying how women think bodybuilding level muscle is gross, of course SS had to chime in too
They were saying it because it's true.

6'0-6'1, 215-225lbs, 10-12% bodyfat - 99 out of 100 women will find that juicy and throw up at some 5'7" 275lb bodybuilder freakshow.
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post 1643260243 07-20-2021, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted By EiFit91
The interesting question here is

In a room with only this guy and his clone carrying 10 pounds more muscle, what would the women do?

You need to hold everything else constant, otherwise the thought experiment is meaningless.

Brad Pitt Fight Club vs Brad Pitt in Troy is an approximation of that relevant thought experiment (age is not constant hence «approximation»).
Its irrelevant i think, both are overkill already. The difference would be hardly noticeable, that dude is slaying 90% of woman easily, if he adds 10-20 pounds of muscle, maybe that number goes up to 95%.


Its like bringing an AK47 back in time to fight cavemen as opposed to a tactical shotgun. Yes its easier with the AK47 but you are winning that fight either way
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post 1643260353 07-20-2021, 02:59 PM
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Hey OP what macro split do you use for cutting?

I followed your advice with bulking at a low fat percentage ~15% of total cals (which worked out to be max 60g of fat a day) and it’s worked so well, thanks brah.
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Originally Posted By Ilovemygf
Hey OP what macro split do you use for cutting?

I followed your advice with bulking at a low fat percentage ~15% of total cals (which worked out to be max 60g of fat a day) and it’s worked so well, thanks brah.
OP almost dies on his last prep. With all due respect to him id consider taking a more moderate route to cutting, eventually you will crash from that.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Its irrelevant i think, both are overkill already. The difference would be hardly noticeable, that dude is slaying 90% of woman easily, if he adds 10-20 pounds of muscle, maybe that number goes up to 95%.


Its like bringing an AK47 back in time to fight cavemen as opposed to a tactical shotgun. Yes its easier with the AK47 but you are winning that fight either way
No not irrelevant. It is essential.

Of course muscular ugly guy will lose to attractive untrained chad.

Comparing those two doesn’t tell us anything about whether women like muscle. We need to compare apples to apples. Guy A untrained vs Guy A with muscles, not guy A with muscles vs guy B without muscles when guy A and B are different across many other characteristics that independently influence their perceived attractiveness.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
5'7" 275lb bodybuilder freakshow.
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As women age they like muscle more and more. But this conversation is pointless. Get to minimal bodyfat and put muscle on your frame after that.
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Originally Posted By Ilovemygf
Hey OP what macro split do you use for cutting?

I followed your advice with bulking at a low fat percentage ~15% of total cals (which worked out to be max 60g of fat a day) and it’s worked so well, thanks brah.
He's on drugs. Maybe he can cut on 3,600 kcal a day but unless you're running daily marathons or also on drugs, fuk off with that.

60g fat is 540 calories. If 540 calories are 15% of your daily diet, that's 3,600 total. Glad your gf loves you, because you're about to turn into a frog with that 'Cutting' diet.
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Average to Attractive face & muscle is the dual threat. Ugly face and muscle will not reap the same attention.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
youre basically saying frat guys get laid more than the football players in college which 1000% is not true.
Football player is the look they prefer not a competitive bodybuilder
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cant relate as a natty but can only imagine brah
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Originally Posted By EiFit91
No not irrelevant. It is essential.

Of course muscular ugly guy will lose to attractive untrained chad.

Comparing those two doesn’t tell us anything about whether women like muscle. We need to compare apples to apples. Guy A untrained vs Guy A with muscles, not guy A with muscles vs guy B without muscles when guy A and B are different across many other characteristics that independently influence their perceived attractiveness.
Thats exactly what im saying. Both clones would be attractive in the eyes of most women, except the muscular clone may be slightly more "primally" desired. Both gonna get laid with whoever they choose that night tho.


My point is that there's a level where you are attractive to the opposite sex without the need of being a gymrat or sacrificing time and social life just for an extra 10-20 pounds of muscle. In the case of the actor in question, id say its overkill, hes slaying either way
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
OP almost dies on his last prep. With all due respect to him id consider taking a more moderate route to cutting, eventually you will crash from that.
Dang didn’t realise that, rough. Thanks bro, glad OPs ok
Originally Posted By JUSA
He's on drugs. Maybe he can cut on 3,600 kcal a day but unless you're running daily marathons or also on drugs, fuk off with that.

60g fat is 540 calories. If 540 calories are 15% of your daily diet, that's 3,600 total. Glad your gf loves you, because you're about to turn into a frog with that 'Cutting' diet.
That’s the calories for my current bulk, I know there’s no way I can cut on that brah
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