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Thread: Texas clinic performed 67 abortions in 17 hours with limited staff before law change

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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
I don't see anyone saying it's only black women having them. In fact a quick look at the stats shows that black women are only responsible for 40% of abortions.
That 40% is a majority
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
Responsibility is a crazy thing I know
Define personal responsibility......then ask 40,000 more people the same question.

See if you get same results.......I'll wait....
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
Define personal responsibility......then ask 40,000 more people the same question.

See if you get same results.......I'll wait....
Being accountable for one’s own actions. Imagine thinking having sex does not have biological repercussions..
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
Misc logic: waaaah I hate people who take advantage of welfare! they suck
waaaah I hate people who get prego and cant afford the baby or get rapped and want to kill it as to not create a burden for the child or themselves or society
The women that don't abort and don't have the means to support their children are a seperate category from women that don't want a child. Those women can give their child up for adoption. This isn't an either or situation.

I'm not saying any solution is simple. I am saying this false dilemma of it's either abortion or welfare is, in fact, false.

There are couples that have been waiting years to adopt a newborn infant. The demand is very high and you must be vetted, with one condition being you can financially support the child.

Abortion doesn't do anything about women that want to keep a child they can't afford. The ones that can't afford it and don't want it can adopt the child out.
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Originally Posted By MyGhettoFantasy⏩
The women that don't abort and don't have the means to support their children are a seperate category from women that don't want a child. Those women can give their child up for adoption. This isn't an either or situation.

I'm not saying any solution is simple. I am saying this false dilemma of it's either abortion or welfare is, in fact, false.

There are couples that have been waiting years to adopt a newborn infant. The demand is very high and you must be vetted, with one condition being you can financially support the child.

Abortion doesn't do anything about women that want to keep a child they can't afford. The ones that can't afford it and don't want it can adopt the child out.
This.

Last time I checked condoms are 50cents at every gas station across America
No good..?
If you are not ready for the responsibility & consequences of having sex.. don't have sex
No good..?
In America there are 36 couples waiting for every one adoptable child.

No more excuses.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
lol you brought up the point of personal responsibility you dumbass religion-cel
Personal responsibility is contraception. Educating people to take responsibility for your actions. Not aborting mistakes already made.

If we're gonna allow abortion I think we should extend it past birth so we can get rid of all the cucks on the misc. Euthanize violent career criminals too while we're at it.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Being accountable for one’s own actions. Imagine thinking having sex does not have biological repercussions..
Only my own actions? So if its good for me, its good for all?
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Originally Posted By MyGhettoFantasy⏩
I'm not saying any solution is simple. I am saying this false dilemma of it's either abortion or welfare is, in fact, false.
You don't believe there is a correlation to poor/low income individuals and abortions?
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Originally Posted By steeler505⏩
If we're gonna allow abortion I think we should extend it past birth so we can get rid of all the cucks on the misc. Euthanize violent career criminals too while we're at it.
How do you say that, yet also be the same person to say "muh freedumz" when gun laws, or some other laws come into play?

Be consistent or just gtfo
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
Only my own actions? So if its good for me, its good for all?
Umm no..everyone is accountable..that’s the point
Consent to sex is consent to its biological repercussions.

I assume the woman gave consent to the penis going into her.
I assume she understands that sperm can meet egg and create life.


And please don’t give me the “rape” argument. That accounts for less than 1% of abortions. Laws are not made on outliers.
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its a fukcing fetus not a baby, when an abortion is performed theres no living thing inside the uterus, no life. just cells maturing to create a living thing.

you dumb fukcs are really retarded
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
its a fukcing fetus not a baby, when an abortion is performed theres no living thing inside the uterus, no life. just cells maturing to create a living thing.

you dumb fukcs are really retarded
You're angry and you're lashing out.
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
You're angry and you're lashing out.
not really ,im just being scientific/realistic
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
its a fukcing fetus not a baby, when an abortion is performed theres no living thing inside the uterus, no life. just cells maturing to create a living thing.

you dumb fukcs are really retarded
This is the dumbest fuking post ITT.

The entire Medical & Scientific Community agree human life begins at conception.

American College of Pediatricians –

ABSTRACT: The predominance of human biological research confirms that human life begins at conception—fertilization. At fertilization, the human being emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated. This statement focuses on the scientific evidence of when an individual human life begins.

Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has made it the official policy of the United States that life begins at conception.

Educate yourself.
Show me one Medical or Scientific Journal stating different, I can reference over 100..

I'll wait.

I'm guessing you are going to have a hard time seeing as the actual definition of the word...

con·cep·tion 1. the action of conceiving a child or of a child being conceived.
synonyms inception of pregnancy, conceiving, fertilization, impregnation, insemination; rarefecundation

These are the facts, as is the fact that at approximately 1.5-2 hours after conception that zygote becomes a living organism that is scientifically classified as homo-Sapiens.

Every embryology textbook; bar none, agrees that a new human life is created at conception.

What a dumbfuk
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Originally Posted By Paul
Umm no..everyone is accountable..that’s the point
Consent to sex is consent to its biological repercussions.

I assume the woman gave consent to the penis going into her.
I assume she understands that sperm can meet egg and create life.


And please don’t give me the “rape” argument. That accounts for less than 1% of abortions. Laws are not made on outliers.
So personal accountability to you looks like a utopia of never taking stimulants, never getting high, drunk.....or mosh pit (idk you might hurt someone!!!11)


Personal accountability to me is following mans laws.....and doing your best to mitigate some bad things from happening to you......
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
not really ,im just being scientific/realistic
- stopping heart beat
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
You don't believe there is a correlation to poor/low income individuals and abortions?
Yes. There is.

Abortion is not the only option. Those children can be adopted out. The adoption process not only requires that applicants be able to financially support the child, but wanting to adopt as a single parent weighs against you. Prospective two parent households make for stronger applicants. The adoption process, in spite of its flaws, does a good job of promoting strong family units. Of course the strength of said family units will ultimately rest on that family itself.

You mentioned rape potentially being a source of conception. A victim of rape can take plan b. I don't say this callously as if to say "oh well pop a pill". On the contrary, in these events popping a pill is preferable to scheduling appointments and undergoing what could be a far more invasive procedure (with higher potential consequences) that would be a painful reminder of the assault. Not to mention it is much cheaper.

Between condoms, other forms contraception, plan b, and adoption, abortion-on-demand is not a necessary instutition. Yes, on individual grounds that are more represenative of unique situations (ectopic pregnancy, for example) abortion can be appropriate. On an industrial scale it is not.

By the way, nearly 2/3 of women that seek an an abortion have had at least one in the past. Abortion is not birth control.
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
So personal accountability to you looks like a utopia of never taking stimulants, never getting high, drunk.....or mosh pit (idk you might hurt someone!!!11)


Personal accountability to me is following mans laws.....and doing your best to mitigate some bad things from happening to you......
Personal accountability means being accountable for your actions..if I break the law, I pay the price.
If you are trying to relate to bodily autonomy..sure. The idea of autonomy is to be able to control your "self". Once that child is inside you and you decide to kill it, you have violated their bodily autonomy. You have all your right to choose what happens to that child as long as you not violate it's rights, just as no one else can violate the rights offered to you.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Personal accountability means being accountable for your actions..if I break the law, I pay the price.
If you are trying to relate to bodily autonomy..sure. The idea of autonomy is to be able to control your "self". Once that child is inside you and you decide to kill it, you have violated their bodily autonomy. You have all your right to choose what happens to that child as long as you not violate it's rights, just as no one else can violate the rights offered to you.
I am not speaking directly about personal responsibility to pregnancy only.......I mean all encompassing......

Have you returned an amazon item for the reasoning other than it was defective?

Have you been mad at work and it effected your performance to the point that maybe a deadline suffered?

Have you cut someone off in traffic, potentially scaring someone causing them to overly brake and ruin their day?



We all do bad things, make mistakes, and people suffer to those mistakes......do I think there's a lot more to abortion than "opps I did it again"? Of course.....education being one of them.

But to blanket every female with "personal responsibility" is disingenuous at best.....since you don't know what its like to have one, don't know what the conditions of her getting prego was.....
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Originally Posted By MyGhettoFantasy⏩
Yes. There is.

Abortion is not the only option. Those children can be adopted out. The adoption process not only requires that applicants be able to financially support the child, but wanting to adopt as a single parent weighs against you. Prospective two parent households make for stronger applicants. The adoption process, in spite of its flaws, does a good job of promoting strong family units. Of course the strength of said family units will ultimately rest on that family itself.

You mentioned rape potentially being a source of conception. A victim of rape can take plan b. I don't say this callously as if to say "oh well pop a pill". On the contrary, in these events popping a pill is preferable to scheduling appointments and undergoing what could be a far more invasive procedure (with higher potential consequences) that would be a painful reminder of the assault. Not to mention it is much cheaper.

Between condoms, other forms contraception, plan b, and adoption, abortion-on-demand is not a necessary instutition. Yes, on individual grounds that are more represenative of unique situations (ectopic pregnancy, for example) abortion can be appropriate. On an industrial scale it is not.

By the way, nearly 2/3 of women that seek an an abortion have had at least one in the past. Abortion is not birth control.
You can sum your post up by just saying lack of education is the reasoning abortions are seen as birth control. Our education system is pure chit.......
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Originally Posted By Paul
This is the dumbest fuking post ITT.

The entire Medical & Scientific Community agree human life begins at conception.

American College of Pediatricians –

ABSTRACT: The predominance of human biological research confirms that human life begins at conception—fertilization. At fertilization, the human being emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated. This statement focuses on the scientific evidence of when an individual human life begins.

Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has made it the official policy of the United States that life begins at conception.

Educate yourself.
Show me one Medical or Scientific Journal stating different, I can reference over 100..

I'll wait.

I'm guessing you are going to have a hard time seeing as the actual definition of the word...

con·cep·tion 1. the action of conceiving a child or of a child being conceived.
synonyms inception of pregnancy, conceiving, fertilization, impregnation, insemination; rarefecundation

These are the facts, as is the fact that at approximately 1.5-2 hours after conception that zygote becomes a living organism that is scientifically classified as homo-Sapiens.

Every embryology textbook; bar none, agrees that a new human life is created at conception.

What a dumbfuk
if it was a living thing , it wouldve been born at the moment of conception... hence , leaving the uterus the moment the sperm penetrate the oocyte.

The organs start maturing at 3 month on , thats when a human being starts to develop .... its like building a car , the wheel alone, the chasis alone, the engine alone means jacksh!t , its not a car.

same goes with a fetus , none of his organs are developed enough to be alive .

by your logic , if a drug addict, a teen , a preteen who got pregnant my mistake are obliged to keep their baby ? ofc not

you guys are just stupid
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
- stopping heart beat
- non-living

^ pick retarded
mytosis of cells = living thing

strong donkey
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
I am not speaking directly about personal responsibility to pregnancy only.......I mean all encompassing......

Have you returned an amazon item for the reasoning other than it was defective?

Have you been mad at work and it effected your performance to the point that maybe a deadline suffered?

Have you cut someone off in traffic, potentially scaring someone causing them to overly brake and ruin their day?



We all do bad things, make mistakes, and people suffer to those mistakes......do I think there's a lot more to abortion than "opps I did it again"? Of course.....education being one of them.

But to blanket every female with "personal responsibility" is disingenuous at best.....since you don't know what its like to have one, don't know what the conditions of her getting prego was.....
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Sure, we all make mistakes, but killing another human being (yes, it is a human being by the very definition of the word) is not an acceptable resolution to a “mistake.

You wouldn’t kill a 1 yr old child because you simply don’t want it anymore..the same goes for a child in the womb.

Please tell me you have a better argument than this..?
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
mytosis of cells = living thing

strong donkey
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
if it was a living thing , it wouldve been born at the moment of conception... hence , leaving the uterus the moment the sperm penetrate the oocyte.

The organs start maturing at 3 month on , thats when a human being starts to develop .... its like building a car , the wheel alone, the chasis alone, the engine alone means jacksh!t , its not a car.

same goes with a fetus , none of his organs are developed enough to be alive .

by your logic , if a drug addict, a teen , a preteen who got pregnant my mistake are obliged to keep their baby ? ofc not

you guys are just stupid
Again..the entire Medical & Scientific Community agree that human life begins at conception. It’s not a debate...you do understand that.

Also..your argument is the fukin worse man. having a certain level of development does not determine personhood. Being a biological human does. A 'fetus' is a biological person.
No one is fully developed until at least 25 years of age. What about children?
Already, there are bioethicists who say that a 12 year old is not developed enough to considered a person. A person is human and a human is a person. And a person is not disposable. A fetus is not a thing, it is a stage of development. From conception, a unique and unrepeatable human life is formed. It is not a potential person.
Development does not determine personhood.
What about the serverly mentally handicapped? Oh wait, bioethisicts have said in the past that they are non-persons to.

When personhood is rooted in anything other than being biologically human, who counts as a person becomes arbitrary with no objective
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
You can sum your post up by just saying lack of education is the reasoning abortions are seen as birth control. Our education system is pure chit.......
Not entirely. It ultimately comes down to values. You can educate someone on the dangers of ciggerates, alcohol, drugs, abortion and etc, but their values will ultimately decide what they do with this information.

It's interesting that we all have probably heard or even said that there should be a licensing process for having children. Well, adoption imposes many of the things we likely heard or said: financially stable, two parent household, clean home environment, no serious criminal history, etc.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
if it was a living thing , it wouldve been born at the moment of conception... hence , leaving the uterus the moment the sperm penetrate the oocyte.

The organs start maturing at 3 month on , thats when a human being starts to develop .... its like building a car , the wheel alone, the chasis alone, the engine alone means jacksh!t , its not a car.

same goes with a fetus , none of his organs are developed enough to be alive .

by your logic , if a drug addict, a teen , a preteen who got pregnant my mistake are obliged to keep their baby ? ofc not

you guys are just stupid
Also a bit of education:
Just 22 days after conception, the baby's hearts starts beating. At 6 weeks, brain waves can be measured. At 8 weeks, the stomach, liver, kidneys and brain are functioning and fingertips have formed. More that 500,000 abortions are done each year in America after the eighth week of pregnancy.
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WTF is up with this thread lmao we eugenicists now?
low socio economic population control?

weird how you can endorse adult murder laws and medical innovation without anyone accusing you of wanting a high crime overpopulated planet


the false dichotomy is retarded
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Originally Posted By Paul
Sure, we all make mistakes, but killing another human being (yes, it is a human being by the very definition of the word) is not an acceptable resolution to a “mistake.

You wouldn’t kill a 1 yr old child because you simply don’t want it anymore..the same goes for a child in the womb.

Please tell me you have a better argument than this..?
You don't think your actions throughout your whole life hasn't killed people in some way shape or form?


What are you doing to keep the lives that are alive here, alive? Do you donate your time, money, energy to causes that provide help to children that do need it?
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Originally Posted By Jessejame5⏩
WTF is up with this thread lmao we eugenicists now?
low socio economic population control?

weird how you can endorse adult murder laws and medical innovation without anyone accusing you of wanting a high crime overpopulated planet


the false dichotomy is retarded
Do you prefer lock downs for covid?

Or people to choose what they do, where they go, and how they go about doing it?
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