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Thread: Vax-cels: the consequences will never be the same...

post 1653164263 12-25-2021, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
No, but the first one in this post is:



Incorrect. The chart includes data beginning in mid December 2020 (2 weeks is far from "all of 2020"), as stated in the title.
post 1653164543 12-25-2021, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩


Source:https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/onta...cinationstatus
I feel the data everyone is posting is somewhat irrelevant. Covid has a %99.7 survival rate, barely 1% of people are adversely effected. We all know the vast majority of those being adversely effected are the bottom 1% in terms of health a co morbidties. In the big picture you are essentially arguing over fractions of percentage points
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post 1653164983 12-25-2021, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
And when was the vaccine available?

edit : nice to see the pseudo intellectual shill reduced to arguing semantics.
"The COVID-19 vaccination program began in Ontario on December 14, 2020"

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-...pi-summary.pdf

Maybe that's why they chose that as the start date for the cumulative data?
post 1653165003 12-25-2021, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By HairyWBush⏩
they've lost me when they start talking about variants. they have no way of singling them out, and never talk about how it's possible the 'Delta' was completely wiped out, and all of a sudden everything is Omicron
btw, I am Lrrr.
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post 1653165063 12-25-2021, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Ramoneb87⏩
I feel the data everyone is posting is somewhat irrelevant. Covid has a %99.7 survival rate, barely 1% of people are adversely effected. We all know the vast majority of those being adversely effected are the bottom 1% in terms of health a co morbidties. In the big picture you are essentially arguing over fractions of percentage points
Would you say death/survival is the only marker to consider?
post 1653165683 12-25-2021, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
Not the first time we’ve seen negative efficacy

The uk data has shown that for the last few months, with more vaccinated being infected than unvaxxed. And the data was per capita, so the % vaxxed vs unvaxxed doesn’t matter
Was at my gf ex husbands parents house yesterday. 2 girls in the house are the only fully vaccinated and both have Covid for the second time. They are quite ill. No one else is sick. I started asking questions and of course they are mad. I’m not pro or con but that is strange to me. She also said a woman at her job didn’t want the vaccine but was forced to get it and died if a heart attack later that night and these idiots are still wanting the shots. I bet it’s all over the place like this but the news doesn’t tell us the truth
post 1653165703 12-25-2021, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By StoliFun⏩
New variants terminate old ones on sight, like covid in general did to influenza and all rhinoviruses
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post 1653165933 12-25-2021, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
New variants terminate old ones on sight, like covid in general did to influenza and all rhinoviruses
COVID is a flu virus.
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post 1653165993 12-25-2021, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Just so people really understand how intellectually dishonest the beavercel vaxcuck is in this post...

This is the date range he posted, outlined by the red rectangle:



Vaxcels…when will they learn?
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post 1653166323 12-25-2021, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted By iabs⏩
Vaxcels…when will they learn?
What should people who received a vaccine learn?
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩


Source:https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/onta...cinationstatus
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post 1653166603 12-25-2021, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Math.



Reduction is bad?
post 1653166763 12-25-2021, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Reduction is bad?
Reduction associated with two doses is in the negative.

Is that good?

I've read all five pages of this thread, and my brain is about to explode.
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post 1653167203 12-25-2021, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Reduction associated with two doses is in the negative.

Is that good?

I've read all five pages of this thread, and my brain is about to explode.
Unvaccinated/vaccinated

(736.8/1028) - 1 = -0.283

Dunno where the 650 comes from
post 1653167383 12-25-2021, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules⏩
It comes from making up numbers but being too dumb to avoid obvious errors

Great source
Which source?

"The estimated number of cases per day, rate and percentage are predicted 7-day midpoint averages based on the latest observed 7-day midpoint average of the number of cases per day and the latest observed 3-day average of R(t). The estimated number of deaths per day is based on the latest 7-day midpoint average."
post 1653167453 12-25-2021, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Reduction associated with two doses is in the negative.

Is that good?

I've read all five pages of this thread, and my brain is about to explode.
Wondering if this is similar to having to use "flammable" for inflammable because people are ignorant.

If you do the math, it comes out roughly 28.3% reduction in Covid with the 2 vaxxes. Looks like a typo, otherwise a "negative" reduction would have an increase in cases for double vaxxed, would it not?
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post 1653167603 12-25-2021, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Johnez⏩
Wondering if this is similar to having to use "flammable" for inflammable because people are ignorant.

If you do the math, it comes out roughly 28.3% reduction in Covid with the 2 vaxxes. Looks like a typo, otherwise a "negative" reduction would have an increase in cases for double vaxxed, would it not?
That's the story people want to tell, apparently.
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post 1653167863 12-25-2021, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules⏩
It comes from making up numbers but being too dumb to avoid obvious errors

Great source
Ah, they describe the presented numbers:

"The estimated number of cases per day, rate and percentage are predicted 7-day midpoint averages based on the latest observed 7-day midpoint average of the number of cases per day and the latest observed 3-day average of R(t). The estimated number of deaths per day is based on the latest 7-day midpoint average.

The variants with N501Y mutation (N501Y+) include Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Omicron; the variants with E484K mutation (E484K+) include Beta and Gamma; Omicron is the most frequent N501Y+ variant in Ontario now. The variants without N501Y mutation (N501Y-) and without E484K mutation (E484K-) include Delta (B.1.617.2); the Wild Type was the most frequent N501Y-/E484K- variant until April 2021,

Delta is the most frequent N501Y-/E484K- variant in Ontario now.


The effective reproduction number R(t) corresponds to the average number of additional infections caused by 1 infection. An R(t) of greater than 1 indicates exponential growth. Change per week is the change as compared with 7 days previously. The doubling time is the estimated time required in days until the current number of cases doubles based on the latest observed 3-day average of R(t). The R(t) for Omicron and Delta are currently estimated assuming the same generation time.


Colour codes are adapted from Ontario’s original COVID-19 response framework: green – prevent; yellow – protect; orange – restrict; red – control."
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Just a reminder to everyone tuning in, J.L.C. is trying to justify this set of numbers:



He doesn't even see what's wrong with it.
Incorrect.

Not my numbers. Not justifying. Just providing info outside of screenshots.
post 1653168153 12-25-2021, 02:43 PM
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The same source reports these:



Is this your "gotcha"?

You see the "per 1 Million" part, right?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
That's not the problem with it, look at the rest of the numbers.
Going by raw numbers here, vaxxed look better off:



Curious at what I'm missing here.

736 double vac cases vs. 650 total? Tis interesting, curious what's going on here.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
They would, if those numbers would not be provable made up.
Aight, I'm guessing your point is 736 double vaxxed cases vs 650 total? I've not read through everything, but reconciling that should be interesting...
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post 1653168773 12-25-2021, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Johnez⏩
Aight, I'm guessing your point is 736 double vaxxed cases vs 650 total? I've not read through everything, but reconciling that should be interesting...
My take is that the total is per 1 million people (hence stating that on that line) and there are more than 1 million vaccinated people and more than 1 million unvaccinated people.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
So are these number correct?



"The estimated number of cases per day, rate and percentage are predicted 7-day midpoint averages based on the latest observed 7-day midpoint average of the number of cases per day and the latest observed 3-day average of R(t). The estimated number of deaths per day is based on the latest 7-day midpoint average."
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
This debate is pointless because the means of data collection is intentionally slanted.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...accinated.html



So what does this mean? That people 13 days out from their 2nd dose having heart attacks are counted as unvaccinated?
The data is being manipulated before it's even officially recorded. This whole thing is a genocide.

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
So you believe these numbers to be correct?



Just LOL at beavercels srs.
What do you mean by correct? Is the model code available?
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Originally Posted By Johnez⏩
Wondering if this is similar to having to use "flammable" for inflammable because people are ignorant.

If you do the math, it comes out roughly 28.3% reduction in Covid with the 2 vaxxes. Looks like a typo, otherwise a "negative" reduction would have an increase in cases for double vaxxed, would it not?
Nothing is coherent in this debate lol.

That is why I've been trolling a lot of threads that have been centered around this, but I really went through this thread trying to understand the numbers.

I don't even know why people take the effort to argue about this anymore. Yea, the pro vax people are mentally ill. I get it.

The government just lies from sun up to sun down, and the whole scamdemic is manufactured, for the most part. It is incredible to think that somebody had Biden on television talking about a winter of death and suffering to put people into a state of fear.

I'm probably going to just ignore these types of threads going forward.
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