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Thread: Over 10k people reporting terrible side effects from the vax

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Originally Posted By Tanerian⏩
Oh my god 10k out of 200 million.

.5%

Fuark bros the vax gonna kill ya.
But if the vaccine doesn't even work..... then..... lmaooooo
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Originally Posted By explosiveMidget⏩
you might as well start planning all their funerals now and i'm not even joking they got 2 years max.
So your prediction in 70% of the world's population is dead in 2 years?


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Originally Posted By P51⏩
Listen here Cletus. By that logic then this thread is moronic. Is it 10k out of 10k? Or is it 10k out of 5B.
It's 10,000 purely anecdotal stories from the US. VAERS is a little more telling, it's far greater there. I suppose you don't trust that either, though.

My only point, the vaccines are not nearly as safe as they were sold, they are not nearly as effective as they were sold. Many people do not need them and it should be required of nobody. Make a choice, get it or don't. If you feel threatened by covid and think the vaccines will help, get them. If you don't, and many people shouldn't, then don't. Either way live your life.
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Originally Posted By CanuckGame⏩
So opposed to the .03% chance of dieing from covid.

Enjoy your boosters dumb fukk.
Side effects from covid itself are far higher in any age group than from the vaccine. So if you're terrified of vaccine side effects, you should be even more terrified of covid. I miss the days when Republicans at least pretended to be tough and stoic, now a days they're just a bunch of limp wristed pansies
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
It's 10,000 purely anecdotal stories from the US. VAERS is a little more telling, it's far greater there. I suppose you don't trust that either, though.
Also, all-cause mortality is UP 40% in q4 2021 compared to q4 2020....
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
Side effects from covid itself are far higher in any age group than from the vaccine. So if you're terrified of vaccine side effects, you should be even more terrified of covid. I miss the days when Republicans at least pretended to be tough and stoic, now a days they're just a bunch of limp wristed pansies
but if you get the jab, you still catch covid, soooooooo.....
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"This is not the first study to find an association between the Covid vaccines and cardiac incidents.
However, compared with the nearly ************200 million doses administered during the trial period, the total number of confirmed myocarditis cases (1,626) is miniscule.**********
That said, in this case underreporting is the most likely limitation on the data, and “the actual rates of myocarditis per million doses of vaccine are likely higher than estimated."



Whatever the true number is, it is still miniscule.
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
Side effects from covid itself are far higher in any age group than from the vaccine. So if you're terrified of vaccine side effects, you should be even more terrified of covid. I miss the days when Republicans at least pretended to be tough and stoic, now a days they're just a bunch of limp wristed pansies
My counter to this, you get covid and it's done. People are not getting covid every 3 months with booster covid over and over after that.

The vaccines lose effectiveness over time and they apparently only work with a fairly specific strain (or at least, not with omicron at all). You won't get a shot and be done, it's just the beginning.

So, whatever threat they represent (which I think is rare), it's a constant and repeating threat. If it's 1 in 10,000 chances of something awful happening, well, if I need booster shots or new shots for new variants I have to roll the dice over and over again. Covid itself? Not so much. You get it, you deal with it, if you recover (as most do) then you put it behind you.

Also:
- You get vaccinated, you get protection for 3-6 months. You will be exposed to whatever threat they represent. That is unavoidable.
- If you choose not to get vaccinated: The odds are you will not get covid in that same 3-6 month time period. Meaning, no threat at all. If you don't get covid, you don't roll the die.

I got covid, I am probably at a high risk of exposure because I deal with the general public. It took over a year before I actually got it. All those months I was not getting covid, obviously I was in no danger.

So, for me, vaccination makes no sense. I've asked pro-vaxxers to explain to me why I personally need it. None have taken me up on that offer to explain it. Not even once. Probably because you can't. Covid represents NO threat to me, so even if the vaccines are 1 in 10,000 threat of danger, even then it's greater than the statistical zero of covid.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Also, all-cause mortality is UP 40% in q4 2021 compared to q4 2020....
Right.

Besides seeing several chart showing that case numbers increase when vaccination rates increase [see: Israel chart in this thread] I wonder how many charts we will see eventually that look like this one from New Zealand-

vaccinations increase = all cause mortality increases



Yes, correlation doesn't equate to causation. Maybe they all got killed off by other covid measures. Pretty sure it wasn't deaths from covid.

Sort of like this other data from England and Wales about increased all cause mortality:



It certainly seems like government should cease ALL pandemic measures since something is killing more people than the virus.
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Lol 4th booster and still get COVID ffs........
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
Lol 4th booster and still get COVID ffs........
Tell us your ideas for this situation, what should be done if you were in charge?
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Tell us your ideas for this situation, what should be done if you were in charge?
Go!
a 5th booster.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
a 5th booster.
The site has a lot of critics, but very few solutions or thoughtful ideas.
One clown said "do nothing"
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
The site has a lot of critics, but very few solutions or thoughtful ideas.
One clown said "do nothing"
Based on all-cause mortality increases recorded in q4 2021.... "Do nothing" seems as if it would have been a lot better.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
The site has a lot of critics, but very few solutions or thoughtful ideas.
One clown said "do nothing"
Would have had the same effect with none of the damage.

If you're truly wondering what might work, first thing I would do would be expose the corruption when it comes to these pharm companies and the clear-as-day collusion between them and the government, media and tech. Put that on the table first off, let people see how much they have manipulated things. Anything outright criminal, which I'm sure is quite a bit, expose that as well and prosecute everyone involved, starting at the top and working down.

Maybe if the narrative wasn't so twisted then people like you who wholeheartedly buy everything the propagandists have been selling, you might see things a bit more clearly.

I would then have actual scientists who are not compromised look into treatments for covid and do so in an unbiased and actually scientific manner. I suspect there are some treatments out there that would be pretty effective. Seems like uncovered FBI files from 2020 thought that much as well.

At that point, we would probably have some kinds of treatments. Make them available and let people decide what to do. No mandates. No masks rules. No demonizing people for being unvaccinated. For good measure, I'd hold big tech accountable for their censoring make them uphold the first amendment, treat their platforms as they should be - public spaces.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
The site has a lot of critics, but very few solutions or thoughtful ideas.
One clown said "do nothing"
Early treatment using FLCC COVID protocol for fatasses and old people. Oh, and don't send COVID positive patients back to nursing homes.

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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
At that point, we would probably have some kinds of treatments. Make them available and let people decide what to do. No mandates. No masks rules. No demonizing people for being unvaccinated. For good measure, I'd hold big tech accountable for their censoring make them uphold the first amendment, treat their platforms as they should be - public spaces.
Also, maybe adjust treatment recommendations based on the data.... The USA is one of the only 1st world countries to continue ignoring myocarditis in young males as it relates to moderna.

The #1 and #2 people in the FDA resigned over pressure to approve boosters when they knew they shouldnt approve them.

Historically, the odds of a new medical treatment working are slim, even after years and years of R&D, but somehow the mrna was immediately viable, safe, and rolled out to billions of people. We went from 99% effective, down to 37% at best, yet we are pretending its the gold-standard treatment for covid..... While ignoring an obesity rate of 40%.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Would have had the same effect with none of the damage.

If you're truly wondering what might work, first thing I would do would be expose the corruption when it comes to these pharm companies and the clear-as-day collusion between them and the government, media and tech. Put that on the table first off, let people see how much they have manipulated things. Anything outright criminal, which I'm sure is quite a bit, expose that as well and prosecute everyone involved, starting at the top and working down.

Maybe if the narrative wasn't so twisted then people like you who wholeheartedly buy everything the propagandists have been selling, you might see things a bit more clearly.

I would then have actual scientists who are not compromised look into treatments for covid and do so in an unbiased and actually scientific manner. I suspect there are some treatments out there that would be pretty effective. Seems like uncovered FBI files from 2020 thought that much as well.

At that point, we would probably have some kinds of treatments. Make them available and let people decide what to do. No mandates. No masks rules. No demonizing people for being unvaccinated. For good measure, I'd hold big tech accountable for their censoring make them uphold the first amendment, treat their platforms as they should be - public spaces.
First of all...................... i don't buy into "everything they sell", that is a really lazy conclusion, with no questions asked to me, by you, to back it up.
Wholeheartedly my ass!
And please link the fbi info, if it is available to read here.
I was looking directly for solutions to help those infected.
Most of us HERE are relatively young and healthy because we follow health and fitness principles, but i bet most of our family does NOT!
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Also, maybe adjust treatment recommendations based on the data.... The USA is one of the only 1st world countries to continue ignoring myocarditis in young males as it relates to moderna.

The #1 and #2 people in the FDA resigned over pressure to approve boosters when they knew they shouldnt approve them.

Historically, the odds of a new medical treatment working are slim, even after years and years of R&D, but somehow the mrna was immediately viable, safe, and rolled out to billions of people. We went from 99% effective, down to 37% at best, yet we are pretending its the gold-standard treatment for covid..... While ignoring an obesity rate of 40%.
Fair points, but i argued last year in numerous threads that to lose large amounts of weight during a pandemic would take most regular folks( not fitness people like us) quite some time.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
I'll use myself as an example. Tell me why I should get vaccinated. My personal risk is extremely low. I am not obese. I....
Are you frequently around relatives in your home or patrons at your job that are very old, very young or immune compromised? If so, those make you a good vaccine candidate.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Are you frequently around relatives in your home or patrons at your job that are very old, very young or immune compromised? If so, those make you a good vaccine candidate.
????

It doesn't prevent nor reduce transmission.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Stop comparing this mRNA shot to the flu vaccine. Not even in the same league in terms of adverse reactions and side effects.

You're too dumb to realize the amount of lobbying done by Pharma towards every single institution out there, and the amount of censorship by Big tech regarding anything negative said about the vaccines.

You're still clinging on to the number stated in the OP not realizing 10,000 reactions is a microcosm of the entire amount of reactions that happened throughout the world.

Go look up the history of adverse reactions for any other vaccine out there and then compare to these mRNA jabs. Not even in the same league.

And to reiterate: you're one of those people who thinks that there is no foul play involved when a person takes the jab and has a severe side effect merely days later (such as death). cAnT pRoVe ThE vAcCiNe CaUsEd It

Tell me, how many people had severe adverse reactions days after the flu shot?

Low IQ ****g0t.
What's your opinion on the fact that Johnson and Johnson pulled an entire lot of their vaccine off the market due to about a dozen cases of myocarditis? Don't you think Pfizer and Moderna would do the same if it was verified that "thousands" of people were dying specifically from their vaccine?

I guess it should also be noted that a lot of vaccine recipients are elderly. If they die it could very well be due to co-morbidities or natural causes from simply being, well, old.
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Originally Posted By Jkm94⏩
????

It doesn't prevent nor reduce transmission.
based on every single "new cases" chart of late 2021 & 2022, it appears as if the jabs INCREASE transmission.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Are you frequently around relatives in your home or patrons at your job that are very old, very young or immune compromised? If so, those make you a good vaccine candidate.
Thank you, first off. You are the first person to address my query.

Am I around elderly or at-risk? Not particularly, but sometimes I am around elderly people.

I have been very careful, especially around my parents. I've already had covid, when I did have it, I self-quarantined and infected no other person.

The vaccines do not stop transmission or spread of the virus one bit. If they do anything, all they do is reduce symptoms. That does me little good, I do not want reduced symptoms. I want to notice them, be aware and know that I am a risk to people around me and to self-quarantine, as I did before.

Last, as I have had what was likely the delta/OG strain, I won't be getting it again. I may get omicron but the vaccines do nothing in that, not even reduce symptoms from everything we know. If you know something else, I'd like to see it, but again I would stress, reducing the symptoms is a negative in my case. I do not want to mask anything, I already barely knew I had the original strain of covid, my symptoms were so mild.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
My counter to this, you get covid and it's done. People are not getting covid every 3 months with booster covid over and over after that.

The vaccines lose effectiveness over time and they apparently only work with a fairly specific strain (or at least, not with omicron at all). You won't get a shot and be done, it's just the beginning.

So, whatever threat they represent (which I think is rare), it's a constant and repeating threat. If it's 1 in 10,000 chances of something awful happening, well, if I need booster shots or new shots for new variants I have to roll the dice over and over again. Covid itself? Not so much. You get it, you deal with it, if you recover (as most do) then you put it behind you.

Also:
- You get vaccinated, you get protection for 3-6 months. You will be exposed to whatever threat they represent. That is unavoidable.
- If you choose not to get vaccinated: The odds are you will not get covid in that same 3-6 month time period. Meaning, no threat at all. If you don't get covid, you don't roll the die.

I got covid, I am probably at a high risk of exposure because I deal with the general public. It took over a year before I actually got it. All those months I was not getting covid, obviously I was in no danger.

So, for me, vaccination makes no sense. I've asked pro-vaxxers to explain to me why I personally need it. None have taken me up on that offer to explain it. Not even once. Probably because you can't. Covid represents NO threat to me, so even if the vaccines are 1 in 10,000 threat of danger, even then it's greater than the statistical zero of covid.
Reduces transmission (though this much much less with omicron) and less strain on the health system.

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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
This isn't an anti vax forum, how dense are you?
Hm, you must be new here. I was here when hoplspitals nation wide started mandating the flu vaccine. Lots of paranoid miscers here fear mongered the flu vaccine and still thinks it gives people autism. You just don't hear about it much because it's been overshadowed by covid.
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